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They have 1500 hrs approx of data to work on. And a ship near to the knackers yard surely is hardly a massive economical loss to the biggest shipping company in the world if proved it works and saves them millions in using HFO.

It would make more sense to trial both separately. I don't understand why we need Wartsilla in the testing of MSAR on an older ship in the fleet. Yes if its a newer ship with timing injection, but the full 4000 hrs could be done on one of these older ships forcefully LONO and once proved, then Wartsilla helps with the newer ships involving timing injection. But at least by then standard MSAR would have been trialled and proved and then tweaked for the newer ships.

Hard to say HF. The vessel being identified suggests one vessel doesn't it. Now because BioMsar/Msar are inter switchable, are both being tried via one vessel. Or is a vessel for BioMsar been identified, with one for Msar in the process of identified.

MSC still use HFO in their scrubbed ships, so it still makes you scratch your head why they wouldn't want to test MSAR just for the sake of it, they know it works via the interim LONO, so if you take the article about older ships and slow steaming not being the answer, you would think that MSC have a suitable older vessel they have acquired lately in their purchases to test MSAR on.

Is this the shift in the trial.

Same for me, but I think its because I need the toilet. ??

The Morocco project seems to be closest to our first contract.

Good working relationship with Industrial Team, did their own due diligence and came to the conclusion we have been shouting about for years.

Keen to proceed, equipment out of storage and on site. Project can be implemented in a week and schedule for trial agreed. Q3 time schedule still on track.

So end of Sept for trial completion and hopefully not much longer for a decision for a contract to be made.

Then Utah again in the same timeframe with all its component parts lining up for October.

So by end of October we possibly have morocco and utah.

The MSC contract will have been signed by then.

And maybe concrete news on Panama/Honduras for proceeding with a trial scheduled for early 2023 I would say.

As well as results on BioMsar from Various parties.

And hopefully news that political parties in Mexico have fully engaged with Redliner and see the benefits of MSAR this essentially giving us a nod and wink to proceed.

So hopefully from now till Xmas hoping for consistent news flow.

Think this is a better way forward than every Tom, Dick and Harry sending in e-mails every 5 mins. Theses and the IMC and Proactive Investors interviews should be enough to keep us informed.

Thanks manu. Wishing you all the best.

I think that the moderators and admin summed up the exact feelings ( in particular the way I always rant) as to giving dates and deadlines which they sail on through leading to a news vacuum and then your mind starts playing tricks trying to fill in gaps as to what the hell is going on.

MSC...we all know its a complex project, that will shift in scope and timelines. For me I was hoping that MSC would sign the intent and then sort out the minutiae afterwards, but they want everything in place before doing that and that's their buisness model and so we can't argue with that.

Its a matter of waiting patiently for however long it takes.

Morrocco. Good to see the client is keen to progress, now they have seen the economic benefits of MSAR and the cost savings they will make. So being in project mode is a good position to be in and the deadline is still achievable.

Mexico. Always difficult lots of hurdles mainly at the political level so having in country representatives who know how to deal with them is a lifesaver. A case of letting Redliner take the load and then when politically accepted the Qfi team can get boots on the ground.

But in all honesty I see Mexico as a 12-18 months project

Honduras/Panama...not as complex as Mexico. Waiting for client approval and then project active. Good to hear and could have a project up and running by March nxt year,

Utah...seems that good progress being made. Clients have been identified and spoken to and show interest, so the nxt 6 months in utah could be interesting, getting the drill permits and then a continuity of supply to feed into an MMU would then be a great money earner for both Valkor and Qfi.

Do I wish we were closer to the end of a trial and closer to contractual terms, of course, but progress takes longer than anticipated and we ( especially me) needs to be that little bit more patient.

As for my knowledge on Qfi. Lol. Just my opinion and just as valid or invalid as anybody else's.

But I would like to say to those who say I'm a deramper or have some think I'm a shorter etc etc. NO

I'm a LTH who just gets frustrated when I can see the need for MSAR/BIOMSAR and the progress is not as fast as I'd like or hoped. But that is something I have to address and doesn't mean I want the company to fail.

Never sold or traded a share, supported the fund raises, added additionally when I could and will continual to do so when I can.

Believe fully in the product and realise the board are working hard. So continual hold from me.

Thanks for sharing this dustofnations. Thanks to all concerned who took the time and effort to contribute to putting together the meeting and this report.

Are the notes going to be posted here.

Just imagine, if we'd been doing secret trials of Msar with the Bulk carrier all this time. Wishful thinking iknow.

I may have my criticisms of the BOD and lack of progress, but at least I don't resort to this crap, even though people accuse me if having a motive.

Unfortunately twitter reaches a lot of newbie investors who follow idiots like this.

https://twitter.com/harryhaven4/status/1549061576648544257?t=-W129R6aCW_X1vH21LwPuA&s=19

Absolute utter crap.

https://twitter.com/harryhaven4/status/1549028133986246656?t=QlG7QqY_0FgBNWxlm5VMOg&s=19

I mean really.

I don't believe it Archie. He/ she said that contacts are telling him good things.

Leaks never happen with Qfi.

See some on Twitter are promoting the fact that news is imminent from Qfi.

https://twitter.com/ColdHotand/status/1548932299412103173?t=rOUV6RSZC2h6-ZoJk-QyOQ&s=09

Hmmmm.

So been reading around quite a bit about Morocco and those people who invest in businesses involved in Morocco all say the same thing, namely buisness is painfully slow.

So knowing this puts the time for the material transfer agreement in perspective.

So I suppose it will happen when it happens.

Frustrating I agree, but knowing other companies are experiencing the same at least gives you some idea we are up against.

Hoping Tuckman that Morocco will go ahead and its merely down to OCP giving us a window of access in their operation. With fertiliser prices through the roof, they won't want to disrupt that cash cow.

But we have to be quick, with the Covid menace rearing its head again, morocco may err on the side of caution and OCP in particular might restrict access.

Mexico is just about going through their long winded process as was pointed out below. If Tula or Salamanca are our targeted refineries it may still happen.

MSC is probably down to who is going to produce the fuel.

So I agree, a lot of these corporations are in it for the greenwashing publicity.

Something has to give soon. The market abhors a vacuum, hence the drift down I imagine.

Used the translate on underneath the tweet. While this is only one refinery and probably not the one we are targeting. ( Tula or Salamanca) it still gets you down when the news isn't ours.

Not convincing Pemex at all. Think you can kiss goodbye to Mexico.

https://twitter.com/GobiernoMX/status/1544131447375683590?t=oDnUA0rvbX_Ji2BPqEu9Sw&s=19