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remove the word NOT from the bottom of the third para.. typo

You were obviously not part (nor was I), but I know some who were, in the select "Whats App" Group set and I am sure many will confirm the comments, mentioned by GR, as to be well more accurate than you know!

Of course, many want out, but, are locked in, (due IMO to some of the diabolical finance deals and other promises that never materialise (yet), and so will play devils advocate in the hope the sp spikes to the new low averages (myself included) so they can walk away with something rather than nothing!

Im sure the compounds will work one day and sooner or later someone will benefit, but imo the "extravagance" and "ego" (of imo over ability) of some of the Bod, have caused this company to suffer, more than it needed? Add in shorters traders and dicey brokers along the way and that is why II's are steering clear, when they should be not getting involved!

Shame, as I really want Val to succeed and hoped to benefit as the many hoped...

FWIW I feel a bullish and experienced NED is needed, from the LTH's, to question every decision (other than scientific) and ensure BoD, acts in the Lth's best interests... but hey ho, it wont happen!

Unlikely, as cant abide liars....
Not sure BoD could state something accurate without a degree of twist!
Such is life.... I suppose, AIM - Always Imagining Money :)

then perhaps, the it bloody works! should have been well not stated at the presentation, as it was!

but then, it appears, its more about the getting the funds at any cost, and no consideration for those that
oblige! hence all the recent finance debacles

makes you wonder how it all goes unchallenged by the watchdogs so to speak!

is science good, they keep telling us so? but no interest that we know of? just the we are in talks!
if those talks were sp affecting? they would have to rns it? correct?

and wont go any lower, than this, (not that your maths is that accurate ?)

What is the upside then please ?

No more down side!!! we are at the bottom Lth's, as suggested by Whip28

So, having gotten in at the wrong point, he now suggests we pile in more and that all will pan out?

Despite, no news, no cash, a poss consolidation and silence from the BoD ?

Oh yeh let me just top up another 50k and hope... great strategy, yep I got it wrong, yep most of us got it wrong, and many have averaged down, thinking exactly this... it must be the bottom! and yet every SINGLE time, it manages to drop further...

Well, lets hope whips right and its a quid on Monday or indeed what is your upside a penny ten pence ? Really am curious as to where you feel the upside will reach ?

Please ???

and

whatever do you mean... rns ????

Let me be blunt... dont talk *******s!

1% held Pi's really, so, 1.2 billion shares ish 10% is 120 mil and 1% is 12 mil...

Care to correct yourself

Furthermore you do not know my financial status, but you will learn that if I hold shares and I do, I will post as I see fit, dont like it, filter... and in a week, you will remove said filter... wait and see !

This is what Val does to an investor... ??? imo

So, not ask the awkward questions, until new year, because of a loss, of a colleague, I wonder how JG's family felt, when he passed, I know, there was no sympathy, (from the Co, however, most lse posters were very sympathetic) when my mother passed a year ago on the 31st... of cancer!

But, for Co, it was business as usual and that I am afraid is the way of the world today...

Death and illness is never easy, but, with a full board of directors, all being paid to "manage" the Co, Im sure the deaceased's family will want privacy and peace, while they come to terms, with their loss and the BoD can show respect, at the funeral? In the mean time they should as always look after the shareholders, as that is the job they are paid to do...

If I sound harsh I do not mean to, but, they have had enough chances to explain the premium deal that cost us dearly and quite frankly everyone was alive then and they still ****ed it up!!!

I will never consider the passing of a member of staff, chairman, tea lady whomever, (we are all equal when arriving) as an excuse to justify waiting for several more months, to find out if a deal will come to compensate what is currently a large loss, due in part, to incompetence of a BoD member, as a reason.

Maybe I have become hardened to life, over the last year or so, but, having waited many years and hoped for that deal... imo new year will only bring more heartache :(

I apologise to all and any, if the above offends, but, I find whippets reasoning, to be well to understanding?

BoD really need to show something tangible and very soon! If we are to consider issuing more shares at some point... surely some must agree with this ?

not so far out imo, the agm answers for instance... just need to cross t's dot i's and boom cash raise on top of tax credit.... there should be a film made like they did with barings bank and nick leeson lol

Ive spoken to George Satu Suzy Tarquin.... need I say more ?

and why not ask for answers to questions that as yet remain unanswered ?

afternoon whippet... right and wrong, hardly work or would not be on hear all the time!

steady life, anything but, lol

been in here for many years, met all current directors except the Chairman who recently passed... have attended presentations, agm and pi meets?

unlike most I am sat waiting for end result, because I can!

not buying at mo, because holding is still substantial compared to other and I cant see a happy ending, unless certain BoD start putting Co first instead of selves!

not per say loosing patience, but dont like bull****ters and from conversations I have had, I KNOW some statements, are bordering blatant bull****, rather than helpful investor statements

finally as I recall, you were not conversing further with me, been down that street with a few and back tracked!

answer me this, tax crd received late sept, cash raise early oct, now less than 200 mil shares left in pot and expenditure around 150k a month, not counting further trial costs? sp at .0125... whats next in your opinion.... a miracle or a consolidation ?

points to consider... if 401 is about to break, why would Val let it stand alone? If 201 were close to a deal, why would the BoD go so close to max shares, why not chuck a half mil in to see it to completion and why no clarification of the payment of the 301 patent... is cash flow being managed that tightly ?

no disrespect intended... but MANY of us have been in your current position as new arrival and ended up in my position, as a lth, loosing a little more trust in BoD by the day!

aim is a leaky ship at the best of times and well.... zip on the rumour mill at moment imo

wonder who you see when you look in the mirror.... :)

yes and not that well received apparently / allegedly ?

but that's the rumour mill for you, they could be signing on the dotted line today for all we know!

dorian grey springs to mind... george loves to issue smoke n mirrors, roses likes to look in them :)

although, whilst I agree with him currently, I do not think he has called "every" shot for five years correctly, otherwise he would be retired on a very nice sum!?!

not sure what to think at mo....

and John Gilchrists! :)

It is obvious the adfvn comments are pure arse covering statements...
And imo he does not deserve the position he holds! Infact do any of the current BoD deserve the remuneration the get and keep getting for getting us to where we are today... Errr No!

IF as you state in your post, he is suggesting this... then again imo, all of the presentation, quips comments and suggestive hints are pure bull**** and done to deliberately gain more newbie's investment money, to keep gravy train rolling!

Quite frankly I doubt they could organise a **** up in a brewery, without something going wrong! nb: probably drink it all before the rest arrive and then say, whoops booze didnt get delivered! or another excuse...

Try delivering on some of these statement... such as, It Bloody Works, Deliver on we are in talks with multiple interested parties, infact clarify who! As I am sure the office cleaner, milkman and tea lady really wont mind! In addition to the possible SIX interested parties, in 401 and 2 signed letter of intents and then, Val say to Suzy, you are stand alone now, or more like, we have ****ed all the funds away in bonus, salary and premium finance **** ups! So, tough its us first and compounds second!

All who know and speak regularly with me, KNOW I have put a serious amount of time into trying to clarify where we are at present and have held through out, but do you know what....

I can only see consolidation next, to keep the lights on and the train rolling ?

Prove me wrong George, man up and state the present state of Val Group finances and all compounds and how you intend to crystallise shareholder value?

Im all ears

as meat loaf sang... two out of three aint bad lol

then why always raise at lowest point rather than highest point?

why not, grow salaries, according to strength of sp rather than simply be greedy year on year

and I think they hide behind the pretence of nda

furthermore, finance to year end ish, is because once all issued, consolidation is next

by leaving a few shares, they leave ambiguity!

as for deal... there is only one possible in my opinion and its no thanks to whom you think again imo!

want to be wrong, but doubt it! like i said it is a gamble and only time will tell!

red or black ball is spinning place your final bets!!!

we all have off days, and so will you? give it time, if we have time ???

hopefully though your enthusiasm will remain intact... but it is tough on occasion !!!

all the best vj