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"What if......"

There's been so many ODX "what if"'s.

I do recall around this time last year one of the consortium put out figures suggesting there would be a demand for multi-billion units of the RTC test, as part of a world-wide AZ vaccination roll out. How did that pan out ?

42 -43.50 looks like in-demand to you?....interesting definition.

calderkate's problem like many on here, is they can't accept that I and a few others have called ODX production and sales absolutely spot on, whereas she believed all the "NDA's....250 employees...car park full...Look ! a lorry....did you see those labels piccys" crap that the rampers have spouted for 1 complete YEAR, and prefers to take out the bitterness on those that were right, rather than to accept she was taken in by all the fluff.

I see the usual suspects are in full flow on twitter, posting a picture showing a line of people outside a DAM clinic, and implying this is happening across the country and it means great visitect sales, without say that not a single one of those people can possibly be getting a visitect test.

DAM opened a place locally to me about a month back. I've yet to see a person go in it, definitely no lines. Clearly they are agressively expanding and are working on a "if you build it, they will come" basis, but being in a rural part of the world 70 miles from the nearest airport or ferry, it doesn't seem the most logical place.

i'm going for 37 "in terms off" during the presentation.

See we have a new influx of rampers this last few days, £££££ are being liberally sprinkled.

And I've been right all along since the beginning of the year when I said they needed orders.

whereas the happy clapping brigade response over the whole year has been:-

"don't be silly, what about the 250 staff, you think they are doing nothing."
"They obviously have multiple NDAs and are producing away like crazy"
"ODX will sell everything they can make"
"They are producing at full capacity, week after week"
"2M a week by April"
"Self test approval by July"
"imminent orders in 3 countries for antibody test"
"£2.50 by March"

Calderkate, you'd heard all the above day in day out from multiple sources ALL year, and yet you complain about a person who has called the production situation consistently correctly. It appears you prefer fantasy to truth.

The Q&A in July is pretty clear in regard to their plans for this test:-

"Q29: Is Antibody Lateral Flow Test Visitect still existing product or was it dropped due to lack of commercial interest? Sometimes in your communication with shareholders company itself and Walbrook don’t even mention it anymore as a part of the product range.
With regards antibody test, we are focused on the UK-RTC product, initially this product was for the UK market and our Visitect for other markets, however as both tests are professional tests we didn’t want to compete against each other."

The question was "was it dropped", the answer was "we didn't want the two tests to compete with each other" (in other words "yes" it was dropped).

to summarise, visitect tri-antibody test is a dead duck.

Whatever small quantity they made, clearly you'd want rid of it before it expires and becomes totally dead money.

all this time later, and people are still getting hyped about some snippets of tangential info. I'm reminded of the uncontained joy on here that day long ago when a lorry arrived !, which of course ODX bigged up by confirming via twitter that indeed a lorry did arrive . Or the several threads about a convoy of limos moving somewhere around scotland, and of course that was definitely someone important going to Alva. I'm sure the people in question remember the guy that took pictures of a few dodgy labels, and this was concrete, unrefutable evidence of shipping 100ks of tests to the US !!

This share has LONG went passed the point of being able to be manipulated by a few wanton tweets or car counts in a car park.

Well shortly find out exactly how "busy busy busy" odx really has been.

oke, your link isn't valid.

I've read his posts, I've concluded he is who he says he is.

On one of his firsts posts back in 2018 on the ODX forum in "the other place", declared who he was, posted his phone number and said he was up for a chat with anyone. He put BJ into his box when he attempted to call him out without checking out his bona fides, which in itself is worthy of remark. He has critised the company, in particular saying "The phrase imminent has been redefined and I suspect the phrase transformational is in danger of being redefined too and remarking that "Holding ODX is like being subject to a form of Chinese water torture."

Each has to make up his own mind.

ODX hasn't submitted ANYTHING to the FDA, Mologic did the submission, and ODX is piggybacking.

" Omega Diagnostics Group PLC said Friday that its technology partner has requested an emergency use authorization from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for its rapid Covid-19 antigen test.

The medical-diagnostics company said the test will be used under both the Omega's Visitect brand and the Global Access Diagnostics brand.

The company's technology partner that filed submission to the FDA is Mologic Ltd. "

So it is up to Mologic to respond to queries or requests for more information, and the priority that Mologic gives the submission (given now they are part of a "social enterprise") will determine the timeline for such responses. I remember a lot of crap posted on here in the immediate aftermath of the buyout ofGAD, that the FDA approval would be accelerated simply because of the association with Gates, and it would only be a matter of weeks.

The buyout happened 20th July.

he is an ex-director, he'll certainly have a good insight into certain aspects of stuff that we can not, but he can not be privvy to information that is not generally available to the market.

"my other half's a psychiatrist "

I though they were rules about doctors having relationships with their patients ?

I wouldn't wory about it, pick any 2 weeks of 2021 thus far and you wouldn't have missed much.

"Surescreen, it appears to have dropped off, we know the original contract was for 20M tests and we know the EU have banned the test, we can assume based for poor accuracy"

Oke,

surescreen is on the europa list that was updated 20th Oct.
https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/default/files/preparedness_response/docs/covid-19_rat_common-list_en.pdf

I'm sure someone will be on soon (probably calderkate) to remind everyone that BJ's last post is suposition, she has a thing about that and of course i'm sure she wouldn't be one sided and just call out suposition that she doesn't like.

The orient gene thing is laughable, ODX has been gagging to make a test since sometime in March/April when it started to become clear that the Mologic test was failed, and yet here we are in Nov, and BJ is proposing that sometime in the future ODX will be making the Orient gene test. What....like...they just decided recently to do this ??

And as for "surescreen will be making their own test", what planet have you been living on ?.....Surescreen has already been paid £100M+ for tests they have ALREADY made...its not a future contract it is a current contract that has already delivered many 10Ms of tests.

When it comes to ODX, anyone would be silly not to look at their consistently abymissal record in achieving certification and approvals often as a result of relying on 3rd parties to do so

I give you ABDX getting MHRA home use approval for the antibody test.
I give you Mologic getting PD approval for the antigen test.

And currently ODX are reliant on Mologic, and apparently should they get approval that means ODX has approval for prof use in the US. Mologic has of course changed hands and is now a social enterprise. And not a word about whether this has any implications on their approach or priority to the US market, or ODX's association with it.

And if ODX has taught us anything in the last year, it is that silence does NOT mean everything is ontrack.

"I disagree - Mologic are in their too and are well connected and respected so not worried - the approvals will just take a while to come..........."

ODX has made it's own application for home use in the EU. I haven't seen anything that states Mologic has applied for it in the EU, but if they do it'll be a separate application for their covios product.

According to various issued RNSs, Mologic's application for professional use in the US covers both the mologic test and the visitect test.

However given the complete fiasco ODX has had in failing to get approval almost anywhere for almost anything to do with covid, who could be surprised if it turns out that that EUA application in the US doesn't actually cover ODX's test afterall.

FTSE says SP mid-price is 44.5. Freddie says he's happy.

Visions of freddie sitting round a campfire toasting marshmallows and singing cumbaya. Mind you, from the sound of it he might have been at some of those 'funny' cookies.

Going on recent history (May,July,Sept), it's possible we will see another round of lft bidstats this month.

And as for the Nov update, the highlights of the July full year update in terms of significant progress in key areas were:-

"Currently this selection process by the DHSC is taking longer than we originally expected and we are waiting for confirmation on which test we will be required to manufacture." If it was taking "longer than expected" in July, what new phrase are we going to get in Nov.

"However, although making a significant contribution, this level of AbC-19(TM) sales was below original expectations, mainly due to focus changing towards antigen testing in the UK where routine antibody testing was not recommended as previously anticipated. " the post results presentation video could not have been clearer that ABDX/ODX were on the cusp of significant sales into 3 countries. "taking longer than expected", comes to mind.

"We plan to submit the data from the study to our European Notified Body by the end of the month and we are working with them to explore how we can fast track approval. " If this is fast track, gawd knows how long normal track takes. "taking longer than expected", comes to mind.

One wonders how long they are going to work on rearranging the words for the above key statements, because as it stands, it appears those three pivotal strands are effectively as they were.

But its fine, freddie's happy so all is good in the world.