Roundtable Discussion; The Future of Mineral Sands. Watch the video here.
You are never in a million years going to convince a climate change denier through scientific facts and consensus, as these are entities, in their worldview, controlled by governments. And the argument re data can easily be countered. we have around 200 years of pretty accurate data. Before that, the data is extrapolated and inferred through geology. Therefore we can only create models. Pretty darn accurate models, yes. but models none the less, and we are always discovering new things and adjusting our models.
I dont believe all climate deniers are stupid, so calling them stupid completely closes dialogue. just misinformed and have interpreted things wrong. A little knowledge is dangerous ect ect. I dont need convincing on the overwhelming scientific evidence to support the theory that humans are causing climate change (note 1984 i said theory)...and to be fair, and lets be strictly scientific, it is not 100% certain by definition, but its as close to certain as we can get without actually letting the predictions of inaction to play out. But thats the rub...something that is not 100% certain can always be interpreted as uncertain despite the fact of being as humanly certain as we can get without the event taking place.
Its important therefore to find middle ground. Yes, it is not 100% certain that humans are causing climate change. But then lets discuss what 100% certain actually means. Lets discuss irrefutable trends (assuming you are talking to a rational person) and then lets discuss in the face of probability, the risk of doing nothing. The asteroid analogy is valid.
Every climate denier that begins to see reason is a victory.
I see what you are saying 1984. Our data only goes back a couple of hundred years, thermometer accuracy, natural earth weather cycles over geological timescales ect ect we cant possibly understand all that, right?....so are humans that arrogant to think that we can impact weather on a global scale?
Its all about risk. Are humans causing global warming? On the balance of probability yes. Its too much of a coincidence that average global temperatures are increasing (and they definitely are) vs our output.
Hey, maybe you are right. Its not caused by humans. But the question is, do you want to take that risk? The evidence produced already is more than enough to warrant a change in our behaviours. Only because it is not 100% fact that humans are not causing global warming, doesnt mean that we do nothing until it becomes 100%. Darn, i would say 50% is good enough! If we wait for 100%, it is already too late!
If there was 50% chance of an asteriod the size of the Chicxulub hitting earth, what would you do? Deny until it became 100% certain??? Because 100% certain is the moment of impact....BOOM
Rabito, nonsense is the market anticipating a positive flow test result which is already reflected in the SP. Sentiment here is at an all time low, and has been for donkeys now. The market is certainly not expecting a lot from this company given the dismal history.
If the flow test is positive, the SP will rocket. This is obvious. If it is a duster, the SP will tank. Its as simple as that really.
Still fully expecting a run up into results once it is confirmed that flow testing has commenced on schedule.
Volume starting to pick up a little here this week too. Early birds beginning to position themselves ahead of lift off from ground zero?
Heres hoping the next couple of weeks can provide the LTH with a bit of respite.
How do i know they are doing nothing? Look at the effing share price. And i'm the twit? My goodness.
You think the SP would be where it is now if someone was doing something??? Wake the F up and smell the coffee.
Another complete twit who expects things to magically change despite the fact that the company is steadfast on its trajectory of doing f*** all to shore up the value in the ground. In the hands of this lot, it is worth a big fat ZERO!
This company takes "patience of a saint" to a whole new level. A fricking zen master is whats required here.
Chance will be a fine thing. Awful trading action today; couldint even hold a 5% rise and managed to close lower than yesterday. This all points to a continuation of the downtrend. Its not an if, but when this will hit 6p.
Majors can just sit back whilst SOLG will eventually need more cash. I'm sure the majors will be only to pleased to partake...accumulation of the company on the cheap. A £20m raise at todays price will give away almost 10% of the company! So all this talk of billions is utter BS if you consider the current situation on the ground.
And what are the board doing to defend against this? F*** all! A franco style deal will wake everyone the F*** up and rustle some feathers when funding is next needed. A fire sale of one of their many gold bearing tenements needs to happen, even if it significantly undervalues it. Anything needs to happen to shore things up as the SP is dangerously low.
Mark my words this will go the way of SXX if current trajectory is maintained. The company is sleepwalking into it.
Seems like that kevin. Perhaps when the RNS lands confirming that flow testing is underway (i.e there are no delays), that will prompt a move. Might be able to squeeze 20 - 30% out of it.
I'm under no illusion as to the miserable past this company has had however. Its a complete gamble on my behalf and have bought an amount that will allow me to sleep well at night, but enough to keep me interested.
Saying that, I cant see myself losing money before flow test results as the SP has not moved from here in about a month now, so this does look like a bedrock SP to me with very little downside risk pre flow test results. For the next couple of weeks at least, risk/reward seems to be in our favour.
GL with whatever you decide.
I wouldnt hold your breath regarding this report. I'll be amazed if this report is delivered by 15th feb. Not that this report will stop any rot here.
Who would have thought, 8 years after the discovery that we would be here? 8 bloody years and achieved what exactly? Continents have been conquered in less time!
The SP to be frank deserves to be this low. There is only 1 thing that will turn things around now, and that is a monetisation event. Next stop 6p, then 5p ect ect until something meaningful happens. No one to blame for this other than the failures of the board to get something to happen here!
This share is like catnip to the heard for some reasons unknown as it always usually ends in misery for those who hold out for results. The 6th annual 88e rampathon is about to begin, so prebook those tickets now for the best price.
At least they are actually flow testing something this time. I do expect this to move up on commencement of flow testing operations and into results. Thats the only reason i am here. How high is anyones guess.
Cant argue with that chickenthighs. But in this game, timing is everything. It really is a brutal place.
Considering taking a position here in the run up to flow testing. I'll say one thing for 88E, they have always managed to draw in the heard. This time however, the SP has completely flatlined. Has the market become wise of 88E now? You have to wonder.
However, i still think that in the run up to the flow test, when we are a bit closer to the time, the SP will see a rise. I certainly wouldnt stick around for the results however. That seems to be SHs biggest downfall here.
A small punt here IMO, and at this point in time is relatively low risk. I doubt the SP will drop more as it has flatlined for a month now. Looks like i talked myself into taking a position here
Once the independent lab results confirm the find and is on par with field lab results, i'm sure Lorna wil then take the opportunity to let us know in more detail the next steps of development to commercialisation, including hopefully financing the project. This is the only thing holding us back now. A JV would of course be best case. A minimally dilutive placement or even an OO (this takes time to set up, but given the interest i believe this could be a worthwile option) would also not be the end of the world here given that when financing path is announced, the Mcap is hopefully significantly higher.
End of this week/next week should see these results in, and hopefully an update regarding how this will be taken forward.
The fact that those placing shares will create a drag on the SP. Ideally, i would like to see all omitted information regarding this discovery BEFORE any fundraise. Also, lets hope there may be an alternative to issuing shares, such as a JV. Surely some players must be taking a closer look at this. They would have to move pretty fast though.
It would be madness for lorna to do a placing given those gas readings before knowing how much gas is in the ground. Lets hope there is enough cash to determine this.
Anyone have any ideas of cashburn here, or can give a decent estimate of how much cash could be left? We can only extrapolate from previous well drilled as to how long £6 million will last. Perhaps this will be my homework assignment for tonight.
IG have been absolutely awful throughtout the entire HE1 rise and throughout the treeshakes. Their execution has gone to the dogs. They constantly go to NT and "market unavaliable" on every drop, dispite other brokers clearly being able to trade! infuriating. I need to find myself a new broker as constantly missing out on getting best prices.
Certainly no sell off ths PM, and UT was significantly above closing. All indicators point to this continuing to rerate over the coming days. This will likely be up AM tomorrow.
We still dont know exactly what we have, so would expect the SP to take stock around the 150m - 200m Mcap range (c4.5p - 5.5p) and begin to consolidate there? That seems a fair value based on what we know this moment in time with upwards revisions contingent on the missing pieces such as flowrates, resource estimates, plans going forward ect.