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As a postscript, my Indian neighbour told me tonight that Farah Khan (who the brand ambassador for lightlife) is as well known in India as a film director as Michael Winner was here - so we are now talking serious promotion for an OPTI product at long last.

Sounds positive enough to me Mol - thanks for posting.

Putting the buying boots on again tomorrow methinks.

All in good time Wigster. Personally I think we are in for a pleasant surprise within the next two or three weeks. A bit of OPTImism and positive thinking wouldn't go amiss here - it's like being surrounded by undertakers at times.

AquaeSulis01 - 100% spot on.

Could be that Morepen and OPTI have differing views on it. SOH intimated just the other day that sales are "going well". Possibly Morepen had initial higher expectations than OPTI, who knows? Apparently there is another corporate deal to look forward to soon as well.

First interest rate cut in India for 5 years, our biggest market so far.

A little bit more in people's pockets can't harm our projected sales there.

TW's view is he thinks they had a good Q3 in 2024, a not so good Q4 but this year will fly.

I don't think personally we are off the year end trading statement, and TW hopes they can "sugar the pill" with some news possibly of a US deal and/or more info on Sweetbiotix.

Tom's view is they are still very cheap and that their holdings in SBTX (rapidly nearing profitability) and PBX will increase OPTI's value markedly.

So many combinatons of opportunities abound, and yet all are missed. The story was on the BBC news with an interview from a weight-loss expert. What harm would there be in our PR pushing SOH forward for interviews on various channels? The Mail on Sunday had an article about the powders (with a mention for OPTI) so even though the market isn't entirely our products there is plenty of interest out there. We need to grab every opportunity with both hands and publicise every product to the max. Nothing wrong with actually being greedy in the chase for profits.

.......about the dangers of weight-loss jabs, it is another positive for slimming powders as a healthy natural alternative where these sort of checks aren't required. It is as well something that the hopeless PR at OPTI should be picking up on. Clever advertising of Slimbiome vs jabs could arouse a lot of new interest.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yeklrer39o

Right, that's better. Thank you for the portfolio mol42 and I unreservedly withdraw my previous comments with apologies.

Mol42 - is the best you can do a rude and abrupt reply to a perfectly normal question?

If so, shove it.

So, do they hold, or intend to hold any OPTI then?

Yes, that's true Lolly. We have an Indian family as neighbours and I asked them about that today - YouTube is popular but accounts for a very small part of social media.

Strangely enough she said that "blogging" is how it's done there, so one with 2.5m followers may come in handy for us. Her husband is a surgeon and she's a doctor so I think they probably would be very aware of things medical back home. Sadly, neither of them are anywhere near overweight so I can't recommend Slimbiome at this stage !!

Lolly - good luck to you also.

As for TW, yes he's been tipping OPTI for some time, but he did explain some time ago the times and prices he tipped (he does issue advice the day before he takes action in fairness). I think it worked out he got it wrong twice out of about 5 times he tipped, but overall you would be well ahead if you followed his "OPTI trail" from the beginning.

I feel this year is going to be most interesting here.

No sarcasm intended Lolly - I simply asked you a straight question.

However, putting all that to one side you'll be pleased to know that even TW doesn't think it was YSF - so your hunch may be correct.

I've just listened to his latest "Bearcast" on OPTI, but it mainly concentrates on the current chairman and not the sales of yesterday. In the big scheme of things they weren't large anyway, but we do appear to have jumpy MM's who like to mark the stock down on a whim.

It also appears that YSF still have around 4.5% of the stock so they will probably continue to sell over the coming year. TW has explained in great detail though why the shares are dirt cheap, so as I've said before any sales by YSF in an ironic way help new investors or holders who wish to increase their holding to get in very cheaply.

Whilst I don't slavishly follow every word TW says, I think with OPTI he has made many good and salient points. I view OPTI as a "holding" company and it's current assets (holdings in SBTX and PBX) show great potential to be worth the current mcap (£17m) EACH on their own, as I've already noted valuing the current business in for nothing. TW has made great store in 2025 being THE year for OPTI with huge promise of sharply increased sales and revenue, the recent Dr. Morepen deal and, yes it's only at this stage a "promise", but a major deal in the US has been alluded to by SOH.

I know many have heard all this before, but I prefer to be in the "glass half full" camp and think TW has got this one 100% correct.

Lolly - if you are so sure it's not YSF, then maybe in your wisdom you can point us all to who the sellers actually are.

Or are you a disillusioned holder intent on convincing us there is something bearish afoot?

All the talk of another fundraise by the way is utter nonsense.

As recently as 5 months ago, Yorkshire Seed Fund still had over 4.7m shares, so it's pretty obvious who has been selling recently. Possible they may subdue the SP for some time, but I suppose all will be revealed in due course. They may decide to hang on to some stock for a time yet who knows?

Lolly - no you are getting the wrong end of the stick entirely. For starters I don't take TW's word as gospel or hearsay - I am referring to something he said many months ago when OPTI was hit by a similar selling spree. He suggested, nothing more, that it was the Yorkshire Seed Fund. Since then I have read elsewhere, don't ask me where it was within the last 6 months and I've been asleep since then, similar things and that YSF did actually intend under their original plan to have sold by the end of last year.

I cannot even recall whether it would merit a holdings RNS it's that long ago, but it all points to them lightening their stake.

In the meantime, of course, there has been some decent buying to counteract the earlier selling. In a perverse sort of way YSF do people a favour that want to buy for the first time or add to their holdings. As you know it was never their intention to hold forever.

And just for the record our initials are a total coincidence - honest !

It was mentioned months ago somewhere, and TW (not because it's TW) also mentioned it once in a post that YSF themselves said they were due to be exited by the end of 2024. The sales today followed the same pattern as a couple of days last week. I wouldn't call it a "game plan" just a timetable on their part. Like the schedule of loan repayments coming to an end.

There is no other sensible explanation for the selling this morning - SBTX are holding steady, PBX are up, and there is no news, unless you can tell me otherwise.

I see YSF are doing some sales again this morning. Always obvious by (a) the amounts, and (b) that they are always even numbers, ie 25,000 40,000 etc.

They are, apparently, behind their schedule to exit so this may go on for a while.