RE: To be or not to be - what is the Question?14 Jul 2021 10:40
"Tony to answer your question (again), the deal was a good one with respect to how much we paid versus the value of the assets." To quote Graham - Its a great deal for shareholders - I agree !
"But it was structured poorly for PIs, meaning that added value hasn't been reflected in the share price. That doesn't mean the share price won't go up." This doesn't make complete sense to me - the value reflected in the SP affects all SH's - Institutions and PI's alike. The only difference is the price at what Investors have managed to get in at. You for example are in at an average of 5.5p !
"It will on a lower gradient, over a longer period of time. But it will go up more slowly (due to II profit taking - remember Graham's words), " - In the short term I probably agree with this !
"and won't hit the same highs in future had debt been used." I don't necessarily agree with this - its possible the market would have responded more positively in the short term but by no means certain. Having added $56m to the balance sheet via debt - the question then becomes how do i3e finance the rapid expansion of production within their own portfolio - such as Simonette. Some may say farm in which I think will happen and could happen pretty soon though if you had to wait as long as Serenity - it could take some time. If you wanted to give yourself options and fund through debt - how much could you borrow if you have just borrowed $56m on an acquisition and have $32m in loan notes?
"So I'll say again. Great deal. Really, really great deal for IIs. Great deal for bod." - agreed !
"Nowhere near as good for PIs." - disagree, its a great deal for all shareholders. If its a bad deal then its a bad deal for all shareholders. Again your talking about price - you are in at 5.5p and many PI's are in at sub 11p - great deal.
"Arguing against this would mean you refuse to acknowledge the share price." 2+2 = 5 - I dont agree !
"Or how we'll struggle to break 15p in the near future." - Could be some element of truth hear but it depends on what you define as short term and this ignores the fact that it is not Managements job to Manage the business for short term share price appreciation - their job is to manage manage for the medium and long term value accretion. There are many things they could do to affect SP in the short term - some are illegal and will be bad for SH's!!!
"Or what the share price would be if they debt funded - one of those questions you refuse to answer." I have no idea what the SP would be if they funded via debt, I'm not even sure it was prudent to take on debt to fund the acquisition for some of the reasons I've highlighted above. Its quite possible that they SP would have responded more positively than it has now (in the short term) though as I've said , its not I3e's job to manage the SP with a short term view. In the longer term - I think debt was not a good idea again for some of the reasons highlighted above.
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