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ddubya you are correct or patents span numerous sectors, this might be complicated to value, and as you say different parties will see different values in there respectful fields, the electronic and the medical field will not understand each other's ultimate value in each other's specialty.
So indeed a piecemeal auction of the sum of the parts might be the best option to maximise value for share holders .
The quantum dot processing plant could be bought by wah hong as they need that extra processing capacity .
The quantum dot cancer treatments could be bought by a rich pharmaceutical company , that should fetch a lot, the trials would also cost a lot, there R&D expenditure runs into billions per year anyway.
But it's the electronic quantum dot patents that will be hard fought over, that's were the big money and industry reputations will be built upon, the winner here will have a incredible advantage over it's rivals, example ,,,,two VR head sets, both do exactly the same thing , but one of them has a operating system that uses 50% less power , meaning you can let everyone in the family have a go on it + you can stay on it for twice the time of the other system without charging, which system would you buy, which system would the technology reviewers recommend, it's a no brainer here, and that's what our quantum Dot patents own , and little gateway into plesseys operating systems, they need us we need them, if another big electronics company , say Samsung bought our patents then they could bargain with plessey around using plesseys new hi Tec VR system in there own headsets, or we stop them using our CFQD quantum dots in there wafer built technology platforms,
It's all swings and roundabouts here. Everyone wants the best systems and the best price for that system, and that can cost a lot of money, what we have is the best newest technology available at this moment in time, and some of the best scientific brains around in the quantum Dot field.
By owning all our quantum dot patents, that really means owning keys to owning and opening a pandora's box of 753 quantum dot patents that could one day bring in hundreds of millions of pounds worth of royalties, nobody yet really knows there full potential, but quantum dots have incredible uses as we've seen across numerous sectors, and they are the new technologies of today's cutting edge scientific breakthroughs, cancer treatments are just one of them, and our Quantum dot injections into the human body are non toxic and biodegradable inside the human body, they can identify pancreatic cancer and help treat that cancer by identifying its exact location within in a organ, that's a phenomenal application of nanoco's quantum dot patents, there's so much more to come from all these patents , but it won't be us who extracts it all, another big company will put the resources into delivering its full potential. GLA
I can only see big cash rich companies bidding, the likes of WAH HONG i'm sure would just see us as a great fit, but they are just about servicing there own borrowings with their free cash flow, so i cant see them borrowing more to snap us up. but you never know.
so it could be DUPONT, MERK , DOW, PLESSEY, EVEN APPLE, THOUGH THEY DON'T LIKE TO OVER PAY FOR ANYTHING,
OUR QUANTUM DOT FACILITIES = £20 MILLION
MONEY IN THE BANK +NO Debt== £6 MILLION
753 patents on there own worth 2 x £54 M, or 3 x £54 m, or 4 x £54 million or even much more.
our current valuation is £49 million , take away that £26 million as above. so we are sitting on 753 QD patents the markets currently valuing at £23 million , when samsung paid £54 million 4 years ago for QD and its 250 patents, its a absolutely crazy valuation we have today , its no wonder we have several large bidders wanting to get there hands on our patents, plessey is a massive private company, and i'm quite sure they could easily buy us with no financial difficulty, its actually in there own interest to snap us up, but when you get several big companies wanting one thing then its more than possible the winner will have to negotiate a substantial premium to close the deal. if we can clinch this deal ,then i'm very confident we will have a headline grabbing news story. and a fat bank balance to distribute out to nanocos share holders.
PLEASE DYOR , and invest with great care, anything can happen when investing. GLA.
Maybe it took 11 month to develop .
Plessey is combining different manufacturers IP quantum dots , to create all these new inovations, our CFQD QUANTUM DOT
Particles helps to create plesseys new technologies, that's why it's very probably that plessey might have been one of those first suitors putting a bid into nanoco's BOD. PLESSEY won't necessarily mention every licensor their using in there products,
It's like Apple ,they don't name all their component manufacturers or licencing partners.
If I'm wrong here please correct me, i promise I won't be at all offended .
DYOR, and double check everything that's written on these forums, especially my own,
GLA
iI hope this throws some light on this subject matter
,Nanoco and Plessey partner to shrink full-colour microLED pixels by 87% using quantum dots
Category: Press Release
Jan 03, 2019
Plessey Semiconductors and Nanoco Technologies today announced a partnership to shrink the pixel size of monolithic microLED displays using Nanoco’s cadmium free quantum dot (CFQD® quantum dots) semiconductor nanoparticle technology. Using its existing monolithic process, Plessey will integrate the Nanoco CFQD® quantum dots into selected regions of blue LED wafers to add red and green light. This shrinks the smallest practical pixel size from today’s 30µm to just 4µm, a reduction of 87%. The process will enable the production of smaller, higher-resolution, microLED displays in applications such as AR/VR devices, watches, and mobile devices, while enhancing both colour rendition and energy efficiency.
For pixels of 30µm or greater, colour conversion is currently performed by adding phosphors to the blue die. However, since the smallest phosphor particle is around 30µm, the efficiency of colour conversion deteriorates as the pixel size shrinks. Nanoco’s CFQD® quantum dot technology overcomes this limitation while facilitating efficient, compact device packaging.
Mike Lee, President of Corporate and Business Development at Plessey, said:
“Quantum dots offer the best solution for today’s emerging display requirements. The nano-sized emitters with narrow band emission make them a suitable solution for Plessey’s microLED display roadmap, which will see pixels being driven down to 4µm in size by 2019.”
Dr. Brian Gally, Nanoco’s Head of Product commented:
“We are thrilled to be working in close collaboration with Plessey, who lead the global field in the development and production of mircroLED arrays. The combination of Plessey’s blue microLEDs with Nanoco’s red and green cadmium free quantum dots gives display customers the performance they require to rapidly commercialise products.”
Compared with all other display technologies, microLEDs are brighter, smaller, lighter, more energy-efficient and have a longer operating life. Where they replace OLEDs, for example in AR/VR goggles or head-up displays, Plessey microLEDs offer ten times the resolution, 100 times the contrast ratio, and up to 1,000 times the luminance. They do so at half the power consumption, doubling battery life in portable devices. They also feature perfect blacks, realistic colour, and immunity to burn-in or decay over time.
GLA
I was offered the opportunity to try out these VR headsets at Xmas and I can assure anyone that they are a truly fantastic invention, I would highly recommend anyone to try them before purchasing , I was subsequently bought one myself after Xmas, and I absolutely love it, OCULUS VR headset is the one I have now, it's still astounding me , highly recommended in my opinion. Also as they constantly improve so will the users experience , young and mature people will appreciate these headsets .
Our patents could very well be a gateway to improving the experience of these headsets, some of our quantum dot patents in conjunction with plesseys patents can cut the power consumption of these headsets batteries by 50% and in doing so can make them more desirable, / not having them plugged into the mains all the time. That's a big advantage over it's rivals, meaning licencing opportunities . Plessey will be nervous around who buys our patents and the knock on effect to there current licencing collaborations with nanoco. Some of our patents could be a gateway to developing other new technologies, and we stand in the way in a licencing roadblock so as to speak, and that could be extremely valuable in the medium to long term. As I keep banging on about our 753 quantum dot patents being a treasure trove to developers and other companies, and Lord and behold they are knocking at our door now wanting that treasure trove .
It's the stock market anything can happen, buyer beware.
GLA
Well well you sure could have turned that £100 into a small fortune , but there's no point in crying over spilt milk, if only we knew what lay ahead. LOL. At least you bought them shares, good on you, I was the fool that didn't, and even though I read a fantastic write-up in the Times about how absolutely fantastic Arm was , at that time it said it was the best at designing and making computer chips, I could have put several thousand £ into it to, ahhhhh,LOL.
I really feel there's a fantastic opportunity buying into nanoco right now, though the downside with any failings would be
A financial kick in the teeth, it never really concerns me when I know that nanoco has a very valuable ip and to my knowledge the biggest quantum dot ip collection in the world, in my book that's money in the bank, and you never know one or even several of our suitors might know if there's a groundbreaking patent within our 753 patents, the likes of our CFQD Might be that transformational product , we didn't approach our original suitors, they sought us with acceptable offers, and now we
Have a open auction for our company, and most likely increasing those first acceptable offers, I'm now confident we will succeed in getting a substantial premium for nanoco. What that price will be, I can only guess as I can only compare this to Samsung buying QD's patents for £54million.
DYOR PLEASE, AND BUYER BEWARE.
Nanonano it's very common for smaller innovative companies to struggle in the middle of big very wealthy conglomerates, and also quite often at the mercy of their big counterparts, as we've seen with Apple's contracts cancellation, that's why it's in these big conglomerates own interest to keep the we companies down enough to see if they are worth snapping up , and for them to exploit there true potential, as in Samsung snapping up QD for £54 million, QD LIKE us had the at dot technology but not the financial muscle and contracts to grow its stable of patents and fully monetize them.
That's just what happens in all these industries, gobble the smaller companies up to make a conglomerate, that takes a fantastic BOD and a good management, we clearly are lacking here, but not for the want of trying.
But we're nanoco's management have succeeded, is in quietly growing the stable of quantum dot patents. And in turn quietly increasing share holders value exponentially, and that's why we have all these big companies knocking at our door trying to buy the biggest development of quantum dot patents in the world , in fact just 1 fantastic patent could be worth billions , we have 753 quantum dot patents to squeeze a few hundred £ million out of another big companies coffers. Our CFQD quantum dot patents in there own right might even merit a few hundred £million, I don't know, but something has all these companies
Knocking at nanoco's door, and it's not just for a tour of our processing facilities. That's for sure.
There's massive value in nanoco, and just like ARM holdings which was spun out of a tiny Company call acorn , and sold to Japan's Softbank for £24.3 billion , I remember trying to convince myself to buy acorn shares at next to nothing, but I didn't, ,
Because I couldn't get that saying out of my head,,,,, from just tiny acorns do big things grow, that one investment could have made me ridiculously rich , ah well such is life. Nobody died ,LOL.
My point being there really could be a treasure trove of money spinning innovations coming from nanoco's stable of quantum dot patents.
It's all to play for here, I wouldn't for one minute think these patents wouldn't have a very substantial price tag on them.
They are worth what other companies can extract from them, and only them companies know what that secret figure could be.
The interest can be coming from anywhere, most people think this is a electronics play here, and yet a big medical company might see the cancer treatments as highly valuable and worthy of a few hundred million of investment. And the rest can be sold off piecemeal to the electronic sector, or the other way around.
Value is value is value and we have that in abundance in nanoco quantum dot patents.
DYOR, anything can happen in the stockmarket, up or down .
GLA
Another important thing when Samsung bought QD and it's 250 quantum Dot patents for £54million , from that point in time the prices for all these types of companies have substantially increased in those 4 years, just look at the current stock market,
so that £54million price tag in theory could well have increased significantly, I don't know, but we are near finding out quite soon. GLA
Apple helped pay for our £20m quantum dot processing facilities, and we were to pay them back with a reduction in price of Apple's quantum dot orders, they cancelled there further orders , and waved goodbye to there money, or let us off effectively.
Apple have a long history of questionable dirty tricks against a lot of their suppliers, even cancelling contracts to smash a companies valuation and share price , they then offer that companies key employees better paid jobs , demoralizing everyone else left in that company, and then snapping that company up cheaply, it's nothing personal, it's just business as they know it.
I'm not saying that's what's happening with nanoco's past and present history, but it's so so Apple in its peculiar circumstances.
Nanoco has a hugely valuable quantum dot IP and processing facility, it's incredibly useful to numerous companies and our suitors, they all desperately want what we have, but only a few are cash rich enough to snap us up lock stock and barrell,
The likes of our quantum dot IP will probably never come up for sale again, and these suitors know it,
Our IP would be a fantastic fit for any maker of TV's or VR, AR, IPHONE makers, security printers, medical companies, the list goes on and on here, we are at the cutting edge of inovation, and newly discovered technologies, we are even hugely surpassing today's current technologies, that's why I believe there's a quite bidding war going on behind locked doors at nanoco, the initial offers were big enough for our BOD TO accept these big companies into a formal up for sale now process,
And after due diligence is carried out, let the real bidding war begin, 30 to 60 days would be normal, though if there's a bidding war,, add on extra time here, that's my experience with bidding situations.
I actually think nanoco have no chance of staying independent now, the offers would be far to high now to justify staying independent, / totally impossible. The BOD will all walk away with there contracts financially taken care off, and there options paid out in full. And it's more than possible that the quantum dot processing facilities will substantial increase its workforce to take full advantage of its processing capabilities/ 24/7 work schedules.
Please DYOR, as any investment has its risk.
Gla
Amerlogue the British establishment would have mainly developed our patented technology, though to be honest I don't think the BOD will be to fussed were our technology ends up, as long as our wealthiest buyer pays the most money for it.
I personally don't care if it's all carved up to maximised our companies valuation, that's what this is all really about, if someone else can deliver the maximum value to shareholders right now , then that's what investing is all about,
I would wish for the company and its employees to retain their jobs and careers though, and that's the job of our BOD during these negotiations, though these big companies can get rid of everyone eventually , or even massively increase the workforce,
I don't feel any nasties will be found in due diligence, and I really feel that these big wealthy suitors are burning the midnight oil trying to outdo all the other suitors in gaining ownership of our quantum dot patents and processing facilities.
We should only be a few weeks away from a outcome, and if not , then this bid battle is going the full distance , maybe beyond February.
If any of our suitors gets the contracts and can maximise production at our quantum dot processing facilitiy, then a offer of over £200million could be justified, or even more than that. One or more of these big suitors knows they can make this pay for them. So we should command a substantial premium in my opinion. Everything feels right for me about this bid situation,
what's holding the market back from a higher price right now for nanoco , is that they can't put a full price on our 753 quantum dot patents, only a expert in this field can do that, and most of our patents have not been monitised yet.
our patents in the medical field alone could one day deserve a valuation worth hundreds of millions of £ , that's what makes our stable of patents unique, I'm not exaggerating we could be virtually giving them away now for a few hundred million £.
Our in-house scientist are showing us today there quantum dot cancer treatments work, but they need the regulatory trials to bring there discoveries to market, we can't fund these trials ourselves , so someone else can do that after paying a substantial premium of a takeover offer. I myself can clearly see the hugh potential in our quantum dot patents, so that's why we have all these suitors knocking at nanoco's door.
It's just typically a British thing , the UK invents things and someone else capitalizes on it,
DYOR and take all my information with skepticism.
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GLA
Troublesome I'm a new investor here , I was about to invest here at 14p but got called away from investing for a few days, I then bought in at just over 16p and then a top up at 16 and three quarter pence, the risk look high if there's no takeover deal, so I done my own reasonable due diligence so as to speak, I loved what I seen , the patents are genuinely a treasure trove to monetize, though nanoco just don't have the resources to capitalise on the huge amount of technology and patents already
I'm their ownership.
What was nanoco worth was my next quest, so I got a reasonable indication from Samsungs purchase of QD and it's 250 quantum Dot patents, worth £54million, that's a 4 year old price, and this may even increase,
It was that £54million price tag that got my attention , it made me feel safe to invest in nanoco's. Sales process,
Nanoco really needs a large highly funded company to take it to the next stage , the enjoyable problems is there's plenty of large companies that want that task, or they risk having to pay licencing fees to another big company . And that might not be possible if one of these companies wants there product to be the very best in its class,,,,, IE,,, SAMSUNG wanting the best clearest colour TV,'s on the market with the newsest technology, for example CFQD , you know what consumers want , the latest and best TV sets, OLED TO CFQD TVs , all the latest Tv's get reviewed online and a lot of consumers review this stuff before buying and most is recommended to them by techy people, so they go after the newest technology , meaning we have the patents for this new technology in our patents,
So Samsung and the likes off, will want to buy our patents and experienced scientists, even Apple know our technology is superior to there camera technology on there iphones, we have a extremely desirable and valuable patent portfolio, and these suitors know it, so much so that they have already put in good enough offers for our BOD TO recommend them carry out the formality of the due diligence processes,
I actually feel that this will turn into a slogging out of who is the richest company to pay that high premium for nanoco.
I'm quite sure we have some very rich companies involved here, so I'm expecting a great takeout price.
Remember due diligence is only a small step away from a legally binding offer, and or BOD are happy with the offers on the table already, so any delays normally mean companies quite possibly increasing their offers.
My confidence comes from the offers already on the table, and confirmed by the BOD, and a 4 year old price paid for another companies 250 quantum Dot patents.
It's looking good here. Sit tight even after the offer is made , crazy money can be paid for the right patent, and we have 753 to choose from.
DYOR please, and buy on your own confidence , not mine.
GLA
Nanoco I'm sure are aware of Samsung paying ( QD ) that £54million 4 years ago for their 250 quantum Dot patents, nanoco
have a newly build £20million quantum dot processing plant just sitting and waiting to be utilized, they also have them 753 quantum dot patents just waiting to be monetized,
So I'm sure nanoco have a good idea to what we might fetch in a open end sales process,
Considering all that , nanoco have reviewed all the offers and proposals, and seem happy to give access now to several of these offers for due diligence, I'm quite sure these offers must reflect the going price that Samsung paid for the other patents they bought from QD,
For any suitor or party to get this far into a takeover situation and allowed to conduct due diligence and especially in and around our finances etc, then they must have sumited a offer comparable to Samsungs QD offer,
That's just for starters , to my knowledge Samsung were not competing against other offers when buying QD,
So considering all these factors , nanoco must have had several substantial starting offers tabled before due diligence was allowed, it would be astonishing if there wasn't a bidding war going on here after due diligence , these are big companies wanting our Quantum dot patents and processing facilities, we will be taken over ok , but by whom that's the big question, frankly I don't care who it is, as long as they pay top dollar to put themselves into a commanding market position .
I'm guessing there's around 4/5 companies in the final bidding round, and that should equate to a substantial takover premium for nanoco.
It's looking good from were I'm sitting ,GLA.
DYOR, BEFORE INVESTING
It looks like to many investors have sat at 10p a share for far to long , and see 17p + as a great price to cash in or reduce their losses, they will be upset when this takeover announcement gets revealed, the longer it takes to finalise then the more the final bidding goes up. These big conglomerates can dig deeply into there financial firepower when advancing there technology and protecting there market lead .
If you like the price in front of you . Then sell out. and close any associated risk.
Buyer beware, DYOR. GLA.
Richard Griffiths is one of nanoco's biggest shareholders, that gives him privileges above us the small share holders, if he rings nanoco's CEO for a chat, the call will be answered ASP, you can be sure he will hear things that he himself can read between the lines off, I myself have rang companies before and spoke to company directors and I assure you would be astonished what slips out of there months, as they struggle to not reveal any sensitive information, especially around takeovers,
I myself was able to get information around exactly when a announcement of a takeover offer will be made,
A few good strategically placed questions can leave them offering insights into what's happening, IE = I asked about how long will I have to wait to hear any news around the company's takeover offer , I then said to the company Secretary ,,, in another 2 or 3 months , on no they said probably this month, there was only just over a week left of that month, and the announcement came inside 7 days , I bought more shares on account and made a great profit. The point I'm making is Richard Griffiths can read between the lines of his conversation with nanoco's CEO, and buy accordingly, that's why he's probably filling his boots with some extra takeover profits.
The best thing around all this is that nanoco's true potential is being looked at by all these big conglomerates. They have the money and business connections to monetize all our patents.
Please DYOR, GLA
I'm guilty of not doing my homework on all of the potential of nanoco's quantum DOTS discoveries, the more I read about the potential here, the more I'm astounded at the full potential of nanoco's R&D's discoveries, the medical field alone has the potential to bring in a huge revenue stream, yes the medical trials take 5/7 years but the technology works right now, they can see it working in the labs, they work closely with other eminent scientific bodies , which shows that our nano particles can light up and locate cancerous tumors and especially pancreatic cancer, also cancerous skin leisions,
The list goes on and on here, this area alone could pay massive amounts of revenue streams one day. I emphasise this technology exist right now in nanoco, and it's only needing the trials to commense, though the cost of trials is expensive for us right now, other partners want to eventually help fund these trials,
The More I read the more I'm thinking nanoco is a real treasure trove of quantum dot discoveries,
Literally every area of discovery has huge financial potential, and after reading about all these discoveries the more I'm getting excited about any possible takeover offer,
The high tech colour TV screen quantum dot discoveries and patents alone should be worth Samsung or another big TV producer joining in on this sale, we've even a newer better technology than OLED screens coming through, CFQD is the next generation of screens that enhances the OLED screens, will Samsung want our patents on this , all the TV manufacturers will want to be the best in there class , we have that patent on that newer technology, so I see a very keen interest in them buying this from us . I'm saying this genuinely , I really think a substantial offer could be coming our way, I also will not sell directly into this offer, as other parties could still pounce after a agreed deal is struck, I've seen it happen before, which can be surprising as it's a open sale process, even Apple can achieve a much better camera action on their phones if they buy nanocos patents and technologies.
It only takes a few good patents to bring in millions of pounds worth of royalties, and we have 753 patents working for us.
I'll be astonished if there isn't a very competitive biding war going on behind nanoco's locked doors right now.
Please DYOR, and never solely rely on anyone's opinion when investing.
GLA
Those last two post are fantastic to back up what most of us are saying here , this industry is desperately needing a big player to pardon the pun joint the DOTS, any one of these companies could be vying for our patents and newly built facilities to manufacture up to £75million worth of quantum dot deliveries per year. I actually think we do have a bidding war going on here, with our huge patent portfolio that must command a substancial premium in any takover offer.
Remember we're valued right now at around £49m = 17+p. Take out the cost of the new facilities we've built costing £20m
And nobodies going to convince me our 753 patents are only worth £29m , with Samsung paying ( QD ) £54m for there 250 patents, that in theory gives us a , on the face of it, a buyout price of around £170million, I know this sounds and looks like a high figure , I'm only comparing it to the last sale, 4 years ago sale of quantum dot patents, we've very little else to go on, add in a bidding war and one of these big suitors might not back down in pursuit of what it needs and wants,
WAH HONG needs the capacity to manufacture quantum DOTS FOR ITS OWN CUSTOMERS.
We have the facilities and patents, so it's a bid battle going on behind closed doors, and that's means top dollar being paid for nanoco's patents.
DYOR, GLA.
With nanoco owning 753 quantum dot patents , it's more than possible someone will infringe some at sometime,
The penalties for infringing patents can run into hundreds of millions of pounds , as we've recently seen , and on numerous other occasions the billions of compensation handed out is just staggering.
So our 753 quantum dot patent portfolio could be a treasure trove for some of these big conglomerates, and in there hands they can be fully utilized, recouping the money they spent snapping them up to add to there own hoard of patents.
Samsung will definitely want them ok, though there will be others who can see the all round substantial value in our 753 quantum dot patents.
DYOR BEFORE INVESTING, GLA.
Richard Griffiths is one of our biggest share holders, he's steadily accumulating plenty of stock, see the 2 RNS , he's from Jersey and worth around £240 million . He must have very good reason to increase his holding. I'm sure he's buying with very good reassurance from his many industry contacts. GLA
Nanoco has some very desirable IP, and numerous companies wanting it, but only a few that would spend the money needed to acquire our IP £20m on the new facilities for starters, and the rest for the ip and current technologies for the new oled tv technology. And the many other uses for nanoco,s technologies, the company is very desirable to these suitors, and the expertise within nanoco, it would make a fantastic bolt -on for any of our suitors, the takeout price could easily be any multiple of today's current SP. GLA.