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I’m inclined to think 55p was also wrong, it should have been £1.55p

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Troublesome Say I'm absolutely determined to get at the very least £5 for each of my nanoco shares, now you know and everyone else knows that's just not going to happen , so whatever happens to determine the takeout price offer , is that not just fate, I'm not weak or without determination, but I do believe in fate, whatever is going to happen will happen. Our takeout price may have been decided even before Xmas. All of us ended up meeting here on this we LSE forum to hopefully get a great profit from nanoco, now surly that's just fate. Or fait as like to call it, LOL.
Troublesome what will be will be. GLA

BBD you could be right with your observations around Richard Griffiths buying patterns, the old saying follow the money etc etc, our suitors went into due diligence on the middle of December I think, and the average time for Due diligence and talks etc, are 30 to 60 days, so we are at that point, for at least some kind of nanoco statement to update shareholders on events/ takeover. Could that be a reason why Richard Griffiths is topping up ? , follow the money to get most of the answers I think,
Richard Griffiths would be privy to our BOD thinking around some of this, I'm not saying he knows facts figures etc, but he can read between the lines of what our BOD are saying to him , as he's a major share holder in nanoco. Also they will speak to him if he rings them up, as a major shareholder wanting a we informal chat. That's one of the perks of holding 14+ % of the company. It's not always what our BOD say , it can be what they are not saying that can be very very revealing. / maybe not actively looking right now for new finance for nanoco, they might be, but they are actually not right now,

Richard Griffiths would fund our Lawsuit himself if anything went wrong here, our fait is sealed by now in my humble opinion.
And it's just how much we are getting is the question.

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BBD how can someone be attacking you personally, when they have just called you a{ good poster ok. }. ?

How can you have a guesstimate around Richard Griffiths thinking, it's not his thinking, it's surly your thinking, but just guessing , as you yourself said, !!! None of knows Richard Griffiths real thinkkng, he might be sitting at home on his laptop with a bottle of whiskey by his side , just having some fun and trying to make some extra money like us. I personally just see him increasing his huge shareholding every other day, because he knows nanoco looks like it's going to get a very favourable offer from a big very wealthy suitor, I'm sure he doesn't know exactly what our takeout price will be. But like me he knows it's a hell of a lot more than 25p, even between £1 and £2 to calculate a price of 25p from anything he's doing seems silly.

BBD I would let that line of thought go, if you wish to keep some credibility, as your a decent thinker ok, but not with the 25p theory.

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BBD imagination technologies lawsuit against Apple was never filed, ours is up and running with a very solid case of wilful infringements on numerous patents, so there's no comparison to imaginations gripe with apple, just the fact that you can be taken over and progress with a lawsuit if you have one. That's the point I was showing another poster. Granted not the best example .

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BBD your a good poster here ok, though with respect to you , your credibility goes right down when you moot nanoco is worth only 25p a share, it makes no sense at all no matter what way you try to cut your logic. It's nonsensical, if you said 42p then you would attain some credibility here. Nanoco could sell for anything from 42p to £1.50p

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BBD I held imagination technologies at the buyout, and made a nice profit, there was a clause in that , if they went a head and sued Apple then imagination technologies share holders would share in any settlement, they must have dropped their lawsuit then. Apple was accused of taking IP from Imagination to make there own GPU ,
Apple came back in 2020 to license imagination technologies IP again, clearly they needed imagination technologies IP, but the Chinese got there first, I remember that lawsuit mentioned in that buyout offer document very well, though it seems they must have dropped it / cost and potential further licencing deals , / as we now see has happened. Apple is the other side of the samsung coin.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/mar/22/apple-takeover-talks-imagination-technologies

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-imagination-tech-apple-sale-idUSKBN19D0H8

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/02/apple-agrees-new-licensing-deal-with-imagination-technologies.html

That won't happen to us as Samsung will pay up one way or another, even if Richard Griffiths has to fund the whole case himself with a rewarding payment.

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MRBWM you don't understand yet, nanoco can still complete a takover, and still retain our lawsuit, that would be negotiated with our new buyer, they may wish to take a percentage of our settlement if they help fund our lawsuit, I've seen this happen before, even in imagination technologies. Or our buyer can offer us their own deal,

The strange big trades could be MM playing around with investors minds, trying to scare people into selling etc , and when that fails they buy the shares back. Or just genuinely messed up trades, my
The market is being battered, we also have to expect a hit here. A big bid. Could come in anytime, though the market downturn may have to reflect our bids value.

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OOGLE. If a deal is struck you only have to reveal it to the market , if it's officially signed for, these thing can be technically delayed if required, it's when you sign for it, that must be declared ASP, / immediately, v
I've seen companies share prices multiplied by X 5 after announcement, stunning the market with a RNS. Sometimes a company can only reveal a takover when all parties get it the all clear, that's why technical delays are necessary.

MrBWM. We won't get our lawsuit if Samsung buy us at the right price. Though if any other buyer buys us , then it would be normal for us to proceed to trial in our lawsuit, our new buyer gets nanoco and even share in our lawsuits settlement or they can separate our lawsuit from our company, though I feel they would share in our settlements if they agreed to share in our lawsuit cost. We have a very strong case and Samsung knows it. But Samsungs worry is another 3rd part buying us and legally stop them from selling there best selling TV,s in America. They have to deal with this now, or pay later in a court case and not being allowed to make TV,s with our technology technology in them. This could be a huge problem for samsung, the ball is in there court so as to speak. We have the winning ticket in our IP patents. What ever happens here , we should at least get our float price back of 42p and a very strong lawsuit settlement at some stage, that's quite a lot of money coming to us one way or another.

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A takeover deal may very well have been agreed already, and what we’re seeing at the minute is the legal eagles sorting out the small print. There could also be a aggressive bidding war going on , and delaying everything. This Coronavirus would naturally slow all these negotiations and dealings down somewhat. We have the indicative proposals/ bids already, everyone knows we are loss making , so there should be no surprises to be found, nanoco just need to push the best offer through this process ASP. and not to let things get slowed down because of the C. Virus problems. All these terrible C.virus problems will be behind us this time next year if not later this year, economies will recover, and someone else will own nanoco’s IP & patents. That pice is another matter, though we have a rock solid lawsuit against Samsung, and that Lawsuit case alone will give us a huge payday . I wouldn’t say no to a very low 42p right now, + our lawsuit settlement in a few years time, around a £1 would make most of us happy here. One day at a time I guess.
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PPE I don't think the angels would like your 69p, though you've a great fun imagination LOL, I just wish nanoco would get this over the line before the coronavirus outcome kills our buyers. The wider economic implications for its hit have not been seen yet, I just hope Samsung are not stalling us with great promises of a share offer, if it wasn't for the coronavirus I would have no problems with waiting a few more months for a formal bid. In a downturn companies pull in all there spending, we want a valuation at the top of the market not the bottom. Nanoco get moving .

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Troublesome you'll have me joining a cult soon , Hare Krishna here I come. LOL.

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Pokerchips I'm aware of the death rates of flu and even colds in the uk, for me it's also the devastation of the world economies, that's yet to be seen, China will see this first, I'm personally not concerned for my own health, let's hope we get over this virus very quickly.

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Troublesome your a laugh ,LOL, the number 67 I've no idea what significance it has anywhere, wouldn't it be spooky if it was our takeout price, LOL, I'll buy your spin on it for the mean time,
67p + our lawsuit settlement of say a few hundred million = another 60p in a few years, and paid to us just before Xmas .

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Pokerchips you are absolutely correct about the pollution in our towns/ bus diesel car fumes,

It's just that every time I think about 2600 people laid out before me dead in a matter of weeks because of this coronavirus, it's alarming to see these people unnecessarily dead, they could have been happier walking around, including the Doctor in China who wanted to warn the Chinese population about the new virus, and he himself died, a young doctor at that.

Hopefully we will stay on top of any outbreaks, our health services just don't need the extra strain,

Good luck with your investments.

Guys I was a holder and sold out at 88p. and taking a loss, Because the potential for a significant drop in card factories share price, that call seems to have been correct, though I genuinely hope this virus doesn't get a hold in the UK , I'm sorry if you think I'm negative about my risk call, though it's genuinely held, I could buy back in again to card factory, though the risk and threat to the footfall in the high street is still there, it's a good company and management, but the risk of it ending up like other infected countries could be a fatal blow to a great number of high street retailers,
I'm only pointing out the risk here, everyone should know the risk of a slow down on the high street,
For example if there was just a few infections here in belfast, then I would be more cautious about going into town unnecessarily, and in me just being cautious would cause a drop in footfall on the high street, it only takes a small number of people to think like me and that causes the drop in footfall, card factory is my only card supplier, it's the best in my opinion,

Everyone can make there own minds up about the risk, hopefully my risk assessment is 100% wrong, but if it's right card factory would be one of the hardest hit shops, let's hope I'm wrong, we really don't need this F####g virus, I apologise if I've unsettled any C.F. Share holders. That wasn't my intention.

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I just want to put this out there, I keep getting this figure of 67p that keeps popping up in my mind every day now. I can't shake it off, and I keep wondering if it has any significance with our bid, I'm not a
Physic or any thing, but it's weird how often these things that pop up in my mind come true. Maybe I would just like it to come true, I'm just putting it out there to see how close to that figure of 67p comes to our final bid. Let's see guys. If I'm right just call me mystic megg in the future. LOL

GLA

Excellent detective work and find torubsome,
Now I'm sure samsung will stretch this out as long as possible, so it's 3 months then, they still can Deny it all in the media if they so wish, or would that have a out of court significance with the lawsuit. ??? I don't know.

Our share price along with all the other stocks is getting battered, and yet a bid North of 42p could come in at any time.
I just wish nanoco would get this sorted ASP, as I don't like the look of this coronaviruss on the world's economies.
Just get us over the line nanoco and play it safe.

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Pokerchips I genuinely hope I’m completely wrong here, but if Coronavirus gets replicated even in a small way in the uk , then the high street will get slammed badly, card factory will get hit particularly badly, as it really needs its cash flow to operate at a basic level, yes people will buy online, though it’s the Radom high street buys that keeps the company in profit, Just a small drop in high street trade would have a very significant effect on card Factories
Viability, if it can withstand a 12 month collapse in profits then after that it should do ok, it’s just extremely vulnerable to any high street downturn . It’s huge turnover would drop substantially, were would it find the money to pay all there bills. I repeat I hope I’m spectacularly wrong here sir. Just google how ‘‘tis virus has devastated china’s retailers.

Pokerchips in a perfect world I would side with you here, in every day life, people react to fear, and that can be costly if your holding the wrong share at the wrong time. Good luck sir if your holding .

GLA