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Shareguard, don't worry I would guess our friend is taking an imaginary holiday. In reality his master will just look up the username and password of another altereedjit. Feel sorry for MV he doesn't realise he is imaginary.

That is a stonking patent JC. It just goes to show which companies have been doing this for the longest time.

So you may appear to be awake and looking out of the front windscreen, but if you're eyes don't follow the line of the approaching curve, then you may be about to do a Tiger Woods. Same for adjusting your eyes up and down to follow the road up or down hill.

At tragic lights, it is checking that you are actually dwelling on the lights. Really sensible stuff.

A bit cryptic this one JC! I wss less confused when I pressed reply and saw the rest of the thread.

So this is the patent for the design of Nomi which is the voice controlled avatar that is the "face* of the car. The reference to Seeing Machines is about our role in the Cadillac CT6, so I presume that it plays the role of the coloured steering wheel lights to indicate if the driver is paying attention and it probably houses the camera for the DMS
Now as you will remember the Nio ET7 is a poster child for Qualcomm and will be one of the first with the new snapdragon chip and presumably a Qualcomm compatible DMS.

No one has claimed it yet...

No driver facing camera here. It uses the forward camera for LKAS to see if the driver is weaving in the lane to "detect fatigue"

Re: SYSTEMS AND METHODS OF AUGMENTED REALITY VISUALIZATION BASED ON SENSOR DATA
Wow, I wasn't expecting that from Boeing.
so 17 year olds learn to drive n a real car costing 10s of thousands with a real instructor.
You can learn to fly in a real plane with a real instructor (2 seater) but when you learn to fly large jets, you learn in a simulator with an instructor - you can't risk a multi-million airframe and the lives (or fuel).

But did you know how you learn to drive an oil tanker, container ship or a cruise ship? Yes, you could start in a little boat and learn the tides and the winds over the years and work you way up. but you wont get to captain anything soon. You can't just decide to learn how to dock in thick fog in a turning tide unless you can find the conditions and again safety and cost comes into play.

In the Navy(ies) there are the structures and career plans to ensure that many necessary skills are learned, but P&O and similar commercial organisations don't have the same capabilities. Like Airlines, they hire you with the experience and qualifications and if necessary complete your training.

There are places where you can go and learn on ship simulators (I guess Southampton) you can look out the windows and see the ships moving, the effects of tides and wind are simulated and you learn to manipulate the equipment and see how it responds. Bit like watching paint dry, but planning ahead is key as they don't stop or turn on a 6p.

Ok so what to Boeing have well kind of like a HUD, but on ships you can walk about, so they have AR that overlays the radar plots, course markings, wind and tide onto the view through the goggles. It makes it easier to see when there is a risk of collision in narrow sea lanes and if you don't spot it, the goggles will flash it up. It is less tiring because the 2d map view of a radar or navigation chart needs to be mentally transferred to the 3d scene when looking out of the bridge windows

This example is for large ships, but of course it could apply in other vehicles.

Are we involved? Well VR may not currently be our speciality, but we do merge gaze from one camera onto the view from another...

Both the Jaguar and Land Rover logos were displayed on during the Qualcomm presentations. With Jaguar appearing on the main slide where we were in the corner next to Google.

Perhaps working with Qualcomm was part of the reason that gave JLR the confidence that they could ditch their planned platform, knowing that if released, they would have the additional costs of tooling up for manufacture and long term support. Whereas the new Qualcomm platform would simplify development and support

I have nothing nice to say about this type of patent. A think tank set up to tie in every possible advancement without doing any real work themselves. Total tosh. Now the trolls will wait for real inventors to cross the "bridges" that they have scattered, so that they can claim their fees for "inventing" without doing the proper R&D to actually see what works. Good to see that the searches have brought up some previous work

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/smart-eye_watch-smart-eye-ceo-martin-krantz-introduce-activity-6779745439089528833-MDKJ
Take a look at the comment from Valeo a respected Tier 1. Martin, that has to hurt.

Good find JC, I'm looking forwards to reading it. If only all patents were so explicit in advertising that they are standing on the shoulders of giants-"such as glint detection and location based techniques using software and/or hardware packages/systems developed by Veoneer or Seeing Machines, for performing gaze detection."

I hope that Byton get through their current financial problems and make it to Start Of Production. Smart Eye may have many design wins, but many don't get to SOP even when the OEM is financially sound.

Oh dear JLR are in a bad place. Once they have found a platform, they may need to throw Qualcomm (with SEE at it) to get it ready in time.

So what happened to SEYE's design wins? Still delayed...
https://www.carscoops.com/2021/03/opinion-jaguar-were-right-to-cancel-the-xj-but-the-rest-doesnt-make-sense/

With what we know, I would be happy spending £300k on Seeing Machines shares at this price. But I wish I had that available a year ago even more

Here is the number of self-driving cars for sale today: zero. And here is the number of privately owned self-driving cars that will be on the road if Tesla meets its goal to make its Full Self-Driving Capability operational sometime this year: still zero.
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If a car needs a licensed driver behind the wheel, that doesn't count as self-driving, Waymo argued. Without mentioning Tesla by name, Waymo was definitely taking a shot at a Silicon Valley rival for which "full self-driving" is always just a day (or a tweet) away.
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https://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/a35769759/carty-self-driving-cars/

if the driver is still in charge, then the driver needs to be paying attention, and the car needs to make sure the driver is paying attention, so that means DMS. Now if someone could just explain to the Tesla fan boys that even Tesla canna change the laws of physics, so that ****ty camera in the Model 3 will never see in the dark. Then instead of thinking that Tesla can keep growing its valuation for ever (want to buy some Tulips?) perhaps they should try a little Aussie company that has its niche all sorted out ready for ubiquity

They are making a big thing of the highly complex Cruise testing and Voyage's actual implementations in Senior's community, where they have lower speeds and lower complications, but the systems are now embedded in the communities. So with the combined experiences of both companies, they can grow up the Voyage implementation to cover more demanding roles, and in the High end highly complicated Cruise implementations can grow out and down from the extremes of San Francisco. It all sounds so simple like that - actually I image Voyage's cash pathway was running dry and Cruise have picked up some nice embedded contracts in gated communities and some new staff have been hired by buying the company.

SYSTEM AND METHOD FOR PROVIDING UNSUPERVISED DOMAIN ADAPTATION FOR SPATIO-TEMPORAL ACTION LOCALIZATION
This one had me beat for a while. It is about the outside world, which in the eyes of a computer scientist is split into cars, people, cyclists and pushchairs. But then it gets confused if the person then does something other than walk or stand - then it needs to look at another trained model to work out what the person is doing - ah he is bouncing a basket ball, then it wants to predict the next movement. Of course things are infinitely more confusing than that, but this is just there method to jump between pre-programmed contextual models.

This is why See specialise on people in a chair in a car where they actions are limited, an the omission of paying attention is relatively easy to model for!!

JC, just catching up on your back catalogue.
SYSTEM AND METHOD FOR CONTROLLING AN AUTONOMOUS CARRIAGE BASED ON USER INTENTIONS

Honda being a Japanese company, in a country with an ageing population needs to automate some of its care-giving. This patent is for a wheel chair, or similar presumably for an elderly patient to drive them around (not automobile) .

So a long term punt, not really our area at the moment, but when this does take off, eye gaze and planning the path of other people and carriages will be important

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/michielvanratingen_life-saving-car-technology-no-one-wants-activity-6776937696767029248-oypq

JC, this ENHANCED AUGMENTED REALITY EXPERIENCE ON HEADS UP Display patent is quite different to previous HUDs we have seen before here there appears to be multiple HUD units to provide coverage over the whole windscreen. In addition, Eye tracking identified where the left and right eye are for both driver and passenger so that each get a custom image so independent 3d images for both viewers. No problem with overlap because they are in their own seats..

By having multiple Huds, they can be far shallower, but of course the total cost could be more expensive but it does give full coverage of the windscreen for both driver and passenger

Nothing to see here JC, this is about manufacture of memory chips. AUTO-ZERO RECEIVER WITH INTEGRATED DFE, VGA AND EYE MONITOR

CLOSED EYE DETERMINATION Device, well this won't keep me awake at night either but at least it is understandable. Sounds like it was designed by an engineer who has at least tried the basics and realised with test data means that the problem isn't as simple as it sounds. Not everyone closes their eyes fully, or opens them fully all the time. So this is the next level of development, they have been told not to come up with problems but bring solutions to their unenlightened manager. So they have created this system that is a step forwards but doesn't require the next level of physiological knowledge (or technical capability) of finding and measuring the size of the pupil or where the eyes are looking. Like with cars, you need to look at what is "under the hood" but that requires more than just the superficial anatomy and camera knowledge of a computer vision engineer.

But Toyota, have worked with people who know these things, so this won't hit the mass market cars in Japan or the West

JC, this one DRIVER ASSISTANCE APPARATUS AND METHOD THEREOF seemed a bit generic. If the driver isn't paying attention and about to leave the lane or hit something then steer or brake.

No worry to us because that isn't our area and it doesn't say much on the gaze or identifying the risks. Can't see it being granted either