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Now, if BIO (US) is reaching out to smaller UK investors for help in additional funding, then that smacks of desperation somewhat.

Over to you, Neil, to confirm or deny...

Ask that question to Neil, counting cards.

His 'non denial' denial said it all.

Anyway it's no big thing..

If you knew the system you'd know that all brokers ask bigger investors to be involved in fundraisers.

Entirely normal and expected

I've changed the heading because, I agree, it was a bit childish.

So I'm taking it Neil that you have been shown this document because you've been asked to take part in fundraising for BIO, as you were in the last fundraising for Ciz?

And anyone else who has seen this pre-amended prospectus from April..

Ricky, JBmcr et al ..

Did the potential future MC/sales make you want to rush out and buy more Cizzle shares?

Hi Neil .

I'm taking it that what you've got is a prospective investors package/prospectus?

Obviously with targets and predicted earnings etc

You were already an insider when you were posting after being offered shares in the last fundraise, so I wouldn't worry about that.

Neil,

I have no idea what your motives are or who you are..

What I come say from your last "confidential" post, is that why bother?

It didn't reveal anything or say anything, just that you have seen a document.

Pointless stating it, other than personal ego.

Why will you suddenly disappear? No I don't understand.

"if I suddenly disappear you will understand why"..

The more I read from Neil the less I believe

Jbmcr..

Hi..

Look, i'm just guessing as much as the next person on here really, but the fact that Ciz is having to approach individual hospitals piecemeal, then they have to corroborate the test etc..

All the while trying to dislodge tried and tested systems (albeit flawed with poor results), just from a logistical point of view, I think it will be an uphill battle.

It would surprise me if they got 100,000 tests under their belt first couple of years, and@ $200/test that would only mean an income of £2 million for Ciz (plus BIO %)

There are tens of thousands of products each year trying to make inroads in the US market.

Ciz may have got the best product in the world (for now) for lung cancer screening, but, like OBD (with the best prostate cancer test in the world), will that translate to hard sales?

I'm guessing (and it is just an educated guess) that it will be slow and not the numbers that some on here expect

Theoldmoot and Widdy ..

Firstly, Theoldmoot, I'm not sure how clued-up you are on Cizzle, because your previous post mentioned Chinese roll-out...

And that just ain't going to happen imo. I'm almost 100% on that one.

So your knee-jerk reaction in the opposite (negative) way saying this is lifestyle is equally wrong imo.

Widdy, we know how you feel and I respect how long you've been here with false promises and financial pain.

But, imo, this is not a typical lifestyle company or a contrived lifestyle company in the usual way.

The BOD has been taking shares in lieu of wages and they have been keeping costs down to a minimum.

But although I sincerely believe the aim and ambitions are noble, my view is that in reality it's just not going to gain traction to make much money for shareholders.

I don't think it will bite people in one giant nasty snap, but I think it will be death by a thousand nibbles.. which is much harder to gauge.

I'm guessing that it'll be hard to gain meaningful traction in the US market, certainly enough to reward long-standing shareholders well.

But those working for Ciz /CizBio- especially the American side- will probably achieve enough sales to see them more than right (with their shareholdings).

It's going to be a bit complex in that those PIs who have loads invested will never be able to let go, as the "ultimate" goal will always be just over the horizon...

It's quite difficult for people to accept that maybe it's never going to happen in a big way.

But in my opinion is that it will fall flat purely on the logistics of how difficult it is to gain widespread traction in the American Market (with the variable of time taking its inevitable toll).

Maybe PIs will be moderately rewarded - and I'm sure that will be spikes at certain points - but I just don't see the big bucks any more.

(And first let's see if they've even got to first base with the BIO contract). Will assess again on next RNS.

Thanks for the Nasqaq link gggg21

All looking good here. Main caveat is the recent downturn in sentiment on AI (overvalue) on Nasdaq, for future listings /value .

Ps I've no idea why everyone is interested about Earl of Aim . The bloke is an unfettered ramper , soliciting himself from board to board for entirely his own ends. He'll literally print anything to try to get the price up.

Hi gggg21..

Thanks for the informed posts. Much appreciated.

Would you mind posting a link for the future NASDAQ listings ?

I used to have a good one, but can't seem to find the one I used.

Cheers

Exactly right Flombo..

I don't want to hear positivity, I want to hear truthful reasons for investing.

Problem is that people like EOA have such a reputation that it does put genuine people off, but also suckers other people in.

He just moves from board to board spouting his incessant crap.

I think he should have been banned years ago for misleading people.

The other problem is that some of this stuff that he says is the truth, some of it is useful and genuine links, but it just gets caught up in the middle of all his lies, rendering it all pointless.

In suspension, this forum has been better than most of the live ones!

Bubble... Will be interesting to see the Tr1s expected in the next few days

Will very much depend on where the fundraising shares have gone - sticky hands , or velociraptors like Spreadex.

Hopefully a big chunk in sticky hands, otherwise the huge share churn could be very long-winded

What a pain..THE worst posted on LSE..

Ruins real.dialogue, ramps incessantly, no scruples

Jace, since I haven't mentioned CDT for many many months it's not like I'm banging on about it.

But when a startup company like Ciz blows £2million - a very sizable amount that could have seen it through to production without dilution - then it smacks of incompetence.

I said the same when I was positive about Ciz. And now that as been born out, I think it's fair to comment on it.

Obviously doesn't go along with the happy clappy mantra though

What did a few of us say many months ago?

If Ciz had the business sense , they could have been £2 million better off if they'd sold CDT shares at 7p.

But, no! These scientists have their head in the sand.

Many moons ago I posted a long message about the incompetents at the head of CDT.

They'd already failed miserably at Nuformix (nfx). 14p to 0.2p.

This is what you get with the merry-go-round of scientists in these companies.

Very costly to Ciz. Poor.

..have a great future..

But it won't be anything to do with the misinformation on this board.

From the percentage investment of Mindflair in Getvisibility to "today's" big late buy.

Look at the date.