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Stilo have a long standing 15 year record of low, low, low revenues of around a million and million and half quid. Wow! What great success after 15 years. Migrate revenues will go up by double in 2015 and as has been the case for 15 years everything else will go down! IBM and others have been great, wonderful clients during the last few years. They have contributed so massively towards revenues that they have now grew to a whooping £1.5 million yearly. Absolutely brilliant!!!! The BOD are so incredibly confident that they have now, as it appears, ABANDONED their trading statements or are going to give it very, very, very late after only doing only 1 trading statement in 15 years or so. This is obviosuly very, very, very good news and should help the share price to explode any time soon. The BOD are falling over themselves to give their trading statement. Omnimark has been such a success during the last 15 years that the BOD are going to explode Omnimark revenues and pigs are going to fly tomorrow!! We should all peddle in fiction as we all know that the BOD are going to report record 2015 profits. Just like they have reported for the last 15 years. GUARANTEED there will be no record profits for Stilo! The BOD are so confident that they feel so comfortable in being tremendously late with their trading statement so that they can give this indication. Maybe it has been abandoned and if it has as true loyal shareholders we should keep this completely quiet. The same poster who has proven to be wrong about the market cap about Stilo each and every year still believes that Stilo is going to have a £25 million market cap any day soon. Unfortunately he has been wrong every single year. Year after year after year after year. Proven time after time!
I agree with you Jesus! I belong to a church that insists on educating those around me. Maybe you would like to give you opinion and make worthwhile contributions too.
If telling the truth is being miserable then maybe I should tell completely peddle with fiction and be a completely and utterly happy and joyful person. Nothing that I have said time after time about stilo has turned out to be off the mark. Past performance is not necessarily a guide to future performance but this has clearly been the case with Stilo for the last 15 years and nothing has changed. My stance on Stilo is still the same. Progress will be made over the next 3 to 5 years but it will be slow progress. Stilo should have issued their trading statement and are very late with it. I once owed shares in a company and it turned out that they stopped doing the annual trading statement and we did not find out until about a month later. It then turned out that the company were not hitting their targets and pulled out from doing any further trading statements. It would not surprise me in the slightest if the same scenario applies here, especially with what was said by Stilo management in the one and only trading statement that they gave in 2015 after about 15 years. I hope this is not the case but if it is then it certainly is not good news. The share price is also doing exactly what it has done for the last 15 years and that is go back down. It has always gone up and then straight back down for the last 15 years or so In the absence of a trading statement or with it being late I anticipate the share price will continue going down. I cannot seriously contemplate the remote possibility that Stilo will stop doing trading statements after only doing one single one in 2015 and this one being the only one after about 15 years. If this is the case then it certainly does not look good. A company does not stop doing trading statements because it is doing well and hitting all the right notes. It only stops doing these because they are not doing what they expected to do and if this is the case in categorically confirms my belief that all is not well as Stilo expected. Then again, I hope I am way off the mark and totally wrong.
Management to issue their Trading Statement. Things are not going as well as management had predicted but going well all the same. They are doing the best that they can do despite previously hoping to do a lot better. In an ideal world they were hoping for a lot more revenues and a lot more profits but this has not materialise due to various things, including severe and unexpected delays in product development which should have been up and running quite some time ago. Annoyingly this has been the same old story for the last 15 years or so. Management has tried year after year to create revenue and profit growth but no matter what they have done frustratingly this has continued to elude them. Going forward into 2016, things look better but only on a similar smaller scale as has been achieved during the last few years. Product uptake definitely, categorically, absolutely happening 100% in 2016 but only on a very low scale similar to 2014 and 2015.
Management to issue their Trading Statement. My belief is that things are not going as well as management had predicted but going well all the same. In an ideal world they were hoping for a lot more revenues and a lot more profits but this has not materialise due to various things, including severe and unexpected delays in product development which should have been up and running quite some time ago. Going forward into 2016, things look better but only on a similar smaller scale as has been achieved during the last few years. Product uptake definitely, categorically, absolutely happening 100% in 2016 but only on a very low scale similar to 2014 and 2015.
My stance is still longterm 3 to 5 years. Progress definitely being made but not on the level that the company expected. Stilo management admitted last year that they did not meet their own revenues and EBITDA levels which eventually came in lower than Stilo management's own market expectations. This is a company with only about 16 employees but they are in a niche and slowly but surely they are chipping away at it. Its going to take time and its not going to happen overnight. In closing, like I have said before, the company will continue making good progress but this progress is going to be annoyingly slow. No quick fast turnover of revenues and profits. They will be flatline at the very best but nevertheless in positive territory. I know this is not something everyone wants to hear but I'm afraid its the way it is with Stilo.
May I take the opportunity to give you the Trading Statement in advance: The company has traded profitably in the year ended 31 December 2015 but revenues and EBITDA will be below current market expectations. The cash position at 31 December 2015 remains steady at approximately £1,090,000 The Company continues to trade satisfactorily, with recent customers including customer one, customer two, customer three and customer four. AuthorBridge, a new web-based XML authoring solution piloted with a major customer has now been completed and is now available under a "controlled release". Further details will be provided when the Company announces its preliminary results for the year ended 31 December 2015 which are expected to be released on 12 March 2015.
Just like I had previously predicted and stated before here is the official stance by Stilo International about its world leading product launch Authorbridge. So, like I have said before, no revenue coming in from this new product anytime soon. Of course, one will tell you that the revenues and profits are going spring into life just like they have during the last 2 decades. Record profits and revenues? No! After so, so long and after the so called trials with a world leading organisation the product is not even ready for use yet! Anyway, here is Stilo's official line on the much, much, much awaited Authorbridge: During January 2016 we will be undertaking a *controlled release of AuthorBridge – if you would like to be considered to evaluate AuthorBridge, please complete the form below and a member of our account team will contact you to discuss your requirements further. In closing, this means no sales revenue is going to come anytime soon. The product is going to have a "Controlled Release" which means the product is not ready. It is going to take a very, very long time before it is!
Why anybody in their right sense can actually think that Stilo could have a market cap of £10 million is truly remarkable to say the least. How would Stilo be able to achieve this just beggars belief. They would have to increase their revenues and profits massively and this will and can only happen if they bring in new revenues. This is just not going to happen unless they are able to bring new products to the market which will have an immediate and sudden impact. We all know that this has never been the case with Stilo have this is not going to happen any time soon. No matter what world leading products that they have released, a few examples being Omnimark, Jetview, Sap, Migrate and plenty of others during the last few years, none of these have ever had an impact financially on any significant scale. The company has already stated that the similar alternative to Migrate, Authorbridge, is not going to have any real financial impact until later on in 2016. Will Authorbridge be launched in 2016 and have sudden and immediate impact on Stilo's revenues and profits on a big scale? Absolutely not. No product that Stilo has launched in its history has ever had an impact on a big scale and it certainly is not going to happen with Authorbridge. Of course, I would love to believe that a company would immediately take on Authorbridge and give Stilo massive, huge amounts of monies but I think we all know that this is not going to happen anytime soon. The recent high share price has obviously come back down to more realistic levels and it would not surprise me if it does not fall further to the 3 to 4 pence level. As has always been the case with Stilo when somebody buys the price shoots up and when things have settled in going back down just as quickly. This has happened during the last 15 years or so and it is happening again now. Is Stilo going to have record revenues and profits? No! Course not! For this to happen they would have to have revenues of over £2.5 million in just the last 6 months from June to December 2015. This is not going to happen in 2015, 2016 or 2017. I expect Stilo to make good, slow progressive progress that will be reflected in the share price during the next couple of years but if anybody thinks that its going to be on unprecedented levels never seen before are completely and utterly on some other level. Of course, there are posters who have been around for many years stating each and every year that its going to happen only to find out that it didn't happen. If you look at the threads on posts from years back you will see how the same posters have put ridiculous market cap levels on Stilo for many years only to find out that it didn't happen and I have no doubt that the same posters will continue to put £10, £15, £20 million market caps on Stilo no matter how unrealistic it is.
You are absolutely right. An announcement should come very soon.
There is an absolute good reason as to why BD have decided to offload Stilo shares. They know what that is but naturally they will never disclose their reasons. Of course, they made absolutely sure this offloading was done responsibly otherwise they would have shot themselves in the foot and obviously they was not going to do that. I do believe they will offload more. Going forward Stilo will do well but their products are those kind of revenue generators that takes years rather than months. If you look at all their world leading products, all these have taken years to generate decent revenues. Management, in their trading statements allude to this as they have said that they expect Authorbridge to generate good revenue in the years ahead. It will certainly come but in the next 2 to 5 year cycle. This is very obvious and one should not expect anything more any sooner.
In all fairness it should not really matter, the fraction of a penny here or there, especially for those who are intending on holding onto these for the medium term. You are right though that market makers do tend to hold the advantage.
Thanks. I am definitely not a believer that this is going to be a multi bagger. Definitely not. I am of the firm belief though that in the medium term, 2 to 5 years the share price of Stilo International will offer very good return of at least once or twice over.
Well! I have purchased 200,000 shares too this afternoon too. I am confident that these will make a good return for me but not on the scales mentioned.
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Drewin Dolphin and Co probably know everything about Stilo Internation and no doubt if they thought Stilo Internationl's share price price was going to be a multi bagger during the medium term they would remain the main shareholder and not continue to offload at every given opportunity.
There is no doubt that Stilo International has been profitable for something like 8 of the last 9 years or something. During this time they have launched new products throughout but annoyingly Stilo have also continued to discontinue some of there own world leading products due to a lack of demand. The share price also hit similar levels as it is now but dropped back down to the normal 2 to 3 pence mark. The share price has been up and down for quite some time within the 1.5 to 3.5 pence levels for around the last 15 years or so. There has always been very encouraging technical signals from the share price over the years, allied by solid fundamentals, at a time when stilo launched world leading products and upgrades, Migrate among others. The share price has always told a story. That we know. Stilo Internation has been associated in many ways with IBM during the last 20 years or so with many of their products, Migrate and others etc, etc, etc. I have no doubt that in some shape or form Stilo will continue to be associated with iBM for many years to come. For many, many, many years Stilo International has launched world leading products, continuing to propriety software that has always enhance revenue growth. No matter how hard management has tried to do this, even with having gigantic world leading customers like IBM on board, revenues have always continued to be within the 1.5 million and 3 million mark for the last 20 years or so. Revenues have never changed in the last 20 The Chairman has has always been loyal to the company by purchasing its shares for the last 15 years or so and continues to do so. Again, I will now state what is going to happen to this very good company Stilo going forward. Unless a takeover happens,if it does, it will be around the 10 pence mark, the company will continue to make good solid progress for a company of its size. No matter when the new products in Authorbridge come out, no matter how Migrate performs, I agree that shareholder benefits will be met in the medium term, like I have been saying for some time now (medium term obviously being 3 to 5 years). If one gets the opportunity to sit down with the chairman and ask him directly if he expects the share price of a company that only has 15 employees to be a multi bagger during the medium term, his response would be: If we can increase our EBITDA to 5 million quid then yes. Mark my words, the only way this can be a multi bagger is if revenues go up to about 30 million quid or something silly like that;but, especially in relation to the EBITDA, this has to be around the 5 million quid mark for the share price to move to the levels mentioned within these bulletins. In closing, Stilo will definitely generate shareholder value going forward from her, which is well, well, well overdue, but this value will only be on a smaller scale unless Stilo is able to miraculously achieve some amazing miracle.
No. Absolutely not. I was at one stage as I did lose a small fortune on Stilo but I am absolutely fine now. I keep on telling everyone that this is a good little company but with only about 15 people that work for it, past history and its customers very nature it is going to take between 3 to 5 years for any real significant movement in the share price and its revenues. Unfortunately what Stilo manage to make in revenues on one hand it tens to lose with the other and this is the very reason I say 3 to 5 years. Definite movement with Stilo but certainly not as fast as being mentioned in these bulletins.
I will be very surprised if even IBM was prepared to pay any more than up to a fraction more than 10 pence per share. IBM holds all the cards and no doubt Stilo Management will rip the hand of anybody who offers around 10 pence per share for a company whose share price has been around the 1 to 5 pence mark for the last 15 years or so. Obviously there will be a lot of disappointed longterm shareholders but that's just the way it goes. No way in any way, shape or form will the likes of even IBM, who have money to burn, be prepared to pay a penny more for a company that has never it more than 3 million and a little pounds in yearly revenues.
Lukehere that is a very interesting comment about the IBM employees not being able to say anything. Is this just what your own personal opinion or do you have some definite proof of this?