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Thanks - I think for the sanity of everyone in cases where someone is talking crap (whether positive or negative - I see both!) if people just throw their own opinion in the mix then let it be that'd be pretty ideal.
I did expect people to say 'ooh look I was right SL was a duster' - and in in all reason nothing wrong with that. But it should not really, for the sake of good discussion have dominated the discussion like it did and become the big point scoring excercise, which again it did.
I've time for anyones opinion, bad or good. Especially if it's backed up with reasoning. The reasoning doesn't even have to be right - I'll listen and I'll take it for its merits. Some people though don't seem able to do that very well and have to counter it.
I also think some people are here for purely the purpose of playing devils advocate, just my opinion but I have seen some faces and thought 'it doesn't matter what you say to this guy, or how you try and justify your position, he is here purely to argue the other side of whatever I say'
it drags the board down a bit. I don't want to try and tell people how to behave online, but at the same time it read badly, really badly and some forums, like gamers forums it's par the course but I didn't expect a board about a fairly serious topic, real business would be like that. That said I could just be being naive, and probably am.
I do wish all well and I do myself think it's great to have a board to discuss things. It shouldn't get personal though.
"However, what I have never really understood is why being right or wrong – particularly in a speculative (or gambling) environment – should be so important. "
I wondered this. I don't post much, but I do read a lot and I think the board got ruined for a lot of people yesterday who might have just wanted to see some discussion about SL outcome and the future when the MATD issue itself got pretty much sidelined in favour of calling people out for 'getting it wrong'. It read badly and it reflected badly on the board and it's posters IMO.
I think the problem is expectations as well, we expect people to have a bit of grace, whether they get things right about it and the unfortunate truth is some just, for whatever reason, can't do it - this got evidenced once when my uncle as a kid lost a party game at my cousins birthday party and barricaded himself in his bedroom for the evening with things stacked against the door and refused to come out for my aunt. These people do exist and do share the world with us :/
Just my 2cents but I do think there was more empthassis on proving a point here yesterday than disucssing the matters re matd!
time for a fresh image for this security, new symbol perhaps? I was thinking KMKZ
Disappointing, but without knowing whats in the ground you're either in it with guarenteed risk, or not in it with a guarenteed no reward
I don't want to trivialise this disappointment as it could have been a significant game opener, especially now we're not doing XX this year, we do have another bite at the apple though.
Not all lost but definitely a glum day perhaps. Maybe time for a cheeky top up if the appetites there
"but at the end of the day this does not guarentee oil shows."
really? i wish you'd told me that ten minutes before the market closed for the weekend
hmm. could be reasonable as long as nobody jumps off a pier, dressed as superman, shouting negativity in the name of saving innocent Pi's from themselves
"Why can’t people see the risk here"
I don't think it really matters. people do what people want to do, and if you're desperately trying to reverse engineers reasons for peoples decisions and the value they put to things you don't yourself see just forget it
complicated creatures but one life live it. want to take what someone perceives as a high risk maneuvre, ultimately so what
I still think it's a figure of speech. By looking forward it might be referring to the sense of relief of having finally offloaded some unsuspected bad or neutral news they were disproportionately worried how the market would take*.
*not a prediction, just a statement
let's say at the time of writing, TD had not been quite reached but no obvious shows as of yet, you'd still use that language even though you may yourself be starting to think 'chances getting a bit slim now'.
It's always going to be positively slanted, it's not an attempt to deceive but its just formalities, it's professional to remain positive.
I'm not trying to rain on the parade, I'm rooting for good results but I just dont myself see any interpretational value in it.
anyway, thats another working day down. Not long now folks.
"Yes, you are correct, "later this month." My bias caused me to interpret as end of month. "
Bias we say? If only someone with a positive attitude was permitted such liberties
Thinking the same, just sounds like regular PR-lingo to me.
But I do hope they find something!
Certainly do agree that there is being a concerted effort into holding onto information until 'the end'
Reason I'm not too pessimistic about this is this behaviour seems to originate from before the drill bit touched the ground (i.e what was said about announcements after drilling completion), whilst disorganisation etc could still be apparent it doesn't seem too tightly linked with actual drill performance which for me is the bigger concern
I do think there's a strategy being played here though. I did wonder if someone had simply looked at past rns's and thought 'ah! I think we'd better release the results when we can back it'
I don't know, but thats my own 2p;'
Is it worth trying to read into phrasing on rns's with regards to SL?
it was kinda clear from the off we wouldn't get updates as we progress, and my gut feeling is they only want to publish when they are dealing with a fairly known quantity. so it stunk of a tight ship anyway, which tests are patience but otherwise puts is firmly in the 'this could end in any case' situation, not bad not good, can be anywhere.
If they didn't mention SL in passing then people would probably infer that as a negative, if they mentioned oil shows that'd blow the earlier decision not to publish into the water.
What i'm trying to say IMO is any outcome remains viable, success, fail, somewhere inbetween.
Disappointing about the delays too, that I think is going to give a certain few something to repeat for the next month or so.
anyway, time for a brew. The world hasn;t ended and more drillin' is happenin'
was a rhetorical question really as it's on the site, more the point is the rate of newsflow should increase soon :)
WH is a bit shallower isn't it, so once this gets moving its going to get moving
one way or other
I suspect the message being made was understood by most
just another episode of 'more of the same'
" Each to their own of course and time will tell."
I think that's about it.
Like you say, it happens. (re delays). Unless someone here knows more than the public all you can do is is have a group of people with a group of opinions and see what plays out.
It's going to be pretty interesting.
that is very much my line of thinking.<br /><br />I would consider a strike in some even if not all targets a succesful outcome. but what do I know!
Not too disgruntled, I thought it'd finish a tad lower. Now to dig in and fight on :)
This leaves us with the biggie and ELA-1??? whatever they decide to do with this.
Todays going to be a toothache, but not out of the game, We're producing, and we know what drilling is like, we've just exhausted some of our bad luck leaving some good left to use (I hope) :)