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Enough D9, you have proved that you know nothing about financials but boast as if you are a hedge fund guru :-)

If you have invested in CINE and work with hedge firms then you should have the numbers on your finger tips.

Simple copy paste from FT anyone can do :-)

Every tom, dicky harry knows about diversifying!

Come back with numbers on how inflation impacts CINE then we will see how much you are correct with your numbers.

Anyone can do a copy/paste from FT :-)

Oh attention seeker what to tell BB that he is a financial guru but all that he knows is copy/paste from FT but doesn't know what it means :-)

Why don't you explain to us what you understood and how is that relevant to CINE? Bloody attention seeker.

Let me tell you in layman terms. MPC committee has 10 members and so far majority have voted to keep interest rates low for foreseeable future. Majority have dismissed the inflation scare saying it is temporary. There is no way rates are going up anytime soon. Not until mid of next year. You were wagging your willy Wonka in the morning about inflation.

I already said in the morning that rising inflation is good for CINE as ticket prices will increase and the concession items prices too but interest rates are not going up anytime soon so stop wagging your tail on this.

If you think you know so much about financials then instead of copy/paste from FT, come up with earnings forecast for CINE, come up with the coupon rates that CINE have agreed, what are the various revenue figures for CINE and how is that going to change with inflation. Again I want to see the real numbers.

In 100 of your posts not a single post has any such financials. Ah yes, good at reminding every now and then about diversifying portfolio :-) yet you are seen only on this BB :-)

So before you boast yourself here next time, show us some financial numbers. Again numbers related to CINE.

there is no one countering these scumbag shorters.
retail investors are fleeing due to the panic that these shorts are creating.
Jhango already bought so they are not buying more to counter these shorts.
Like few asked here, who is loaning them the stock to short?
Free float is 600M shares out of 1Bn shares. With a daily volume of 8M -10M shares traded every day since last few months, there should not be many left.

Surely Jhango is not happy seeing their profits evaporate and we don't have any TR1s from them about reduced holdings yet. If we don't get one today by end of day about Jhango then they or someone else is loaning the stock to sell and this stock needs to be bought back and that should lead to spikes. Now they do not want market to think about manipulation so they will need to find a day when the markets are better and then they will close their shorts gradually.

Also another point to note is that streaming cannot totally replace theaters.
Studios want revenue from theatrical releases too and those revenues are bigger than streaming revenue as can be seen from Black Widow release numbers for streaming. Disney made $60M on streaming and mind you that is the total revenue from all the regions whereas US Domestic box office alone was $80M just on the opening weekend and as weeks go by, there will be more revenue from the theaters from across the world.

CINE is the second biggest cinema chain in the world and they make money not just UK but from US and other regions too.

Mooky already threatened studios that he will not screen the movies if he doesn't get 31 day theatrical release and that is how he made the deal with WB, Universal etc and box office revenue globally is $42.5 Billion!!! CINE are the second largest cinema chain globally and CINE was paying DIVIDENDS until last year and the debt was still there and even they ventured to buy Cineplex despite the debt and it was approved by the shareholders too! So debt is not all a concern and all that extra debt that Mooky added was just $1Bn since last year due to covid but again this debt was financed without any dilution.

Current price is way too undervalued. Market cannot ignore the improving outlook for CINE. Box office revenue for BW is $80M for the opening weekend, which was in par with the movies that were released back in 2013, 2014 and 2016!!!! So woud you believe the virus scare that some snakes try to spread the fear?

I'm not from MPC and am glad that half knowledge ones like you are not in MPC.

I can't remember his name but one guy from MPC who was screaming about inflation resigned last month.

Hopefully soon we get good riddance of you too from here.

Good post maddanus69.

If anyone investing based on charts, you can see that CINE is down by almost 40% since £1
It simply cannot go in a straight line downwards all the way to zero.

We were at 66p when all cinemas were closed and now we are fully re-opened. We still have big list of movies for this year.
Current price is way too undervalued.

If you were sleeping until last month, yields went up and they went down too but interest rates have not increased and will not increase anytime soon.

If you cannot debate on a topic and want to go on a personal insult then I can happily do so as well idiot.

I have to remove you from filter to keep a check on you.

Interest rates are not going to increase until atleast end of next year so again stop telling scaremongering stories.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57466918

Like I said, see the above article about how many retail investors have signed up accounts and there are million more in many other trading platforms.

Trolls come here on the board and spread fear about CINE. Don't listen to them and don't give up your shares.
Trolls are creating new new accounts here and you see them posting negative about CINE. Just filter them.

Last night threads on email response from IR have been removed!

Retail power in CINE pushed the price to high of £1.20 and those retail investors have sold out now.

There is not a single holdings TR1 RNS released since last 2 months to cause the drop. Like I said Jhango as well are still holding. Retails investors are selling and why are they selling? They are the ones who read the posts here and their sentiment is impacted due to trolls.

CINE position is improving every day.
Many said last year that CINE may not survive and they were proved wrong. People talking about debts will also be proved wrong.

Black Widow raked in $80M despite streaming and this number is on par with Thor: The Dark World ($85 million in 2013), Captain America: The Winter Soldier ($95 million in 2014), Guardians of the Galaxy ($94 million in 2014) and Doctor Strange ($88 million in 2016).

Despite the streaming, BW made collection similar to the numbers in 2013, 2014 and 2016!!!
Rest of the movies releasing next few days and this month and for rest of the year will all be in cinemas.

Don't get spooked by the trolls spreading fears. They are not invested yet they monitor this board every hour and would like to dismiss any reasonable positive statement on CINE.

Motely fools are like grass snakes and many have said repeatedly many times including immature Bonkers that they are the biggest fools on the market and yet you picked their post and shared it here.

Can clearly see why you feel their post is reasonable and shared a Motely fool article. InDepthWins (IDW) was another one who used to be a patriot like you for Motely.

Immature Bonkers who mocked others that shared Motely fool article can't open his gob now when his guru shared a post from Motley fool. He will now pretend as if he has not seen this post.

Disney is popular for families that have kids and they make 2-3 movies that might make $60M revenue from streaming but there is no guarantee that every movie will make that much money and more. Now with covid situation, they made that money and once life is fully back to normal, they may not make that much. Also there are so many streaming channels/apps, read about streaming wars.

There are so many movies that get released to theaters directly and don't go onto streaming like one of own Disney movie didn't go to streaming.

Black Widow raked in $80M despite streaming and this number is on par with Thor: The Dark World ($85 million in 2013), Captain America: The Winter Soldier ($95 million in 2014), Guardians of the Galaxy ($94 million in 2014) and Doctor Strange ($88 million in 2016).

Despite the streaming, BW made collection similar to the numbers in 2013, 2014 and 2016!!!
Rest of the movies releasing next few days and this month and for rest of the year will all be in cinemas.

So don't get spooked by the trolls spreading fears. They are not invested yet they monitor this board every hour and would like to dismiss any reasonable positive statement on CINE.

If you look at box office figures for US domestic, for the month of June

Year Cumulative Gross Number of releases
2021 $399,282,324 80
2020 $3,677,627 22
2019 $1,149,119,141 193

So you can see that for half the number of releases compared to 2019, gross amount is almost comparable to 2019.
So just for comparison if you take 90 releases in 2019, which is half the actual number then gross would be $550M and we have $399M for similar number now in June 2021.

You have to consider the number of releases as well when you are comparing with precovid levels.

So anyone saying cinema attendance poor and scaremongering about masks are the trolls desparately trying to talk down the share.

We have a big list of movies lined up in the coming months and with restrictions completely removed for CINE and trading conditions back to precovid levels, we shall see those box office numbers improving. Like I said above, you cannot just compare the gross amounts as you should also consider the number of movie releases and as per the releases CINE is doing really well with trading almost back to precovid levels and this was the reason why Mooky said in the last update that demand is more than they expected for the Peter Rabbit.

Now comes the question then why is the share price is dropping when the trading conditions are back to normal.
We don't have any TR1s about any big funds selling since last 3 months and yet the price is dropping. It is all due to shorts and lot of PIs selling listening to trolls.

I will post more details on how retail investors shares impact the CINE share price.

iTrader, the interim results will be for the first half, which is period ending June 30th.

You are correct. If this report beats the March results then market will like it.

We already know that first 3 months were closed from March results so that information is already priced in.
Market will look at the numbers from April to June but we will also get an update for July and pretty sure update on July numbers by Mooky will be highly positive.

Ofcourse the results till June 30th will be compared against 2019 but market already knew that information and that information is priced in already so if the market appreciates that numbers are growing each month then I think we could see a big blue day.

It dropped 6% in the morning but by close was down by some 2% and in next few days hit a high of 107p.
12th Aug are the results.

iTrader, report will be mixed but the trolls on the board here will only pick the negatives ones and so is the media.

Last year, everyone said CINE will go bust and they were proved wrong. Like that trolls and the media will be proven wrong about CINE. this is a business that is going to survive for next 50-100 years and the debt can be easily manageable. There is no case can be made if CINE can pay off the debt considering how it rose from ashes after the closures due to covid.

People also talked about box office revenues not going to be good but despite Disney streaming, BW opening weekend collection matched to some of the movies released before covid. Before anyone pounce on these numbers, below is from Forbes article -

Black Widow is a Phase Four Marvel movie that plays like a Phase Two (or early Phase Three) MCU movie. It’s thus appropriate that it opens on par with Thor: The Dark World ($85 million in 2013), Captain America: The Winter Soldier ($95 million in 2014), Guardians of the Galaxy ($94 million in 2014) and Doctor Strange ($88 million in 2016).

So BW made collection similar to the numbers in 2013, 2014 and 2016 despite the streaming but still trolls and glass half empty eyed ones conveniently will ignore it.

Very undervalued and current price is a bargain basement price. We should be atleast 75p if not 85p. It come good. I will hold.

Bonkers it is 12th Aug and not 21st Aug. I know you are stressful too.

today it is all about SAGE scaremongering on covid and shorts taking advantage of that news.
Tomorrow hopefully should be a calm day and bulls will be back to push this up.
Remember when it went down to 77p in 2 days time gone back to 88p.

I'm expecting 70s before the end of this week.

BW raked in $80M in the weekend, which is not at all bad considering covid scaremongering.
And not all Disney movies go on streaming.
Rest of the movies releasing next few days and this month will all be in cinemas and not on Disney.
If we see total box office revenues $100M for few weekends this month then that really proves that cinemas are back to precovid levels.

Oversold today. We shall be back to 70s in no time.

"Cineworld's share price has drifted off since the highs of March, when it reached 120p, more sharply recently," it said. "As discussed in our note today, if we had stuck to the 7x recovered EBITDA valuation we used previously, we would have increased our target price to 90p and rated Cineworld a buy.

"However, tweaking the 7x to only 6.7x lets us set our new target price at close to the current price which, intuitively given the scale of the risks, appears to us to be the right recommendation."

So they reduced the price from 90p to 75p just because their multiples reduced from 7x to 6.7x.
Surely current price is way too oversold. It should be 75p atleast.

JG68, am down by nearly £9K although lesser than your amount but you are not alone.

Shorts are full on. Big brother Jhango surely is watching. Their profits from highs of 120 have evaporated but they are sticking here still. Mooky's team will be watching too as they have 22% holding in CINE. Definitely current bargain price is cheap for a takeover and it could very well be that shorts are working for Jhango for a cheap takeover otherwise nothing warrants a drop like this in 2 days when all restrictions related to CINE are going to be removed in week's time.

These shorts will have to close at some point. I will hold until we see that big spike back to 80s and 90s.

Nothing warrants this drop. Pure manipulation.
Another 4% drop despite the freedom day is ridiculous. This is now at bargain basement price.

When CINE trading conditions are back to precovid levels, how can this drop?
Shorts are full on, which means they have to buy back at some point and that will cause a big spike.
Just need that RNS land about full re-opening and that will burn the shorts.