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Seems like this week some have returned to the UHL business model / set up as the focus of their efforts. Last week it was the warranty, week before the build quality, think week before that it was the UHL topic again.

Perhaps it's just boredom which is causing the same outdated deramping 🤔

I replied in an earlier post that I am not on the telegram group red, but I'm guessing with you referring to it again you must have missed it, so no, I'm not a group member.

Funny ones tonight are the almost tag team like digs at the office used by the UHL umbrella. I'd think it's very prudent, in this day of digital tech there is no reason for every one of the 37 businesses in the "group" to have their own costly office space. With many of them still in the start up phase I'm sure those behind them can work from home anyways lol.

Another funny one is the point about NH2 and environmental approval, considering their plan is to help rid the planet of waste plastic and create an alternative fuel source for the internal combustion engine that gave me a laugh. If anyone genuinely thinks such a plan would not get local governmental approval due to an environmental matter / challenge I'd be astonished. (unless they want to build it on a lesser spotted kangaroo breeding ground)

Anyways, apart from the agreement with NH2, whatever else UHL are involved with matters not, the other 36 companies could all meet and work out of the same phone box for all I care.

So what will the rest of week bring, 4 more days of UHL / NH bashing until next week and the return of the warranty? Or will there be anything new. Probably not, I'm convinced a rns about deal finance / order and euro patent will be met with some bizarre posts that it matters not as the kiln has been stolen and sold as scrap to the local merchant hence no new pics.

No red, I'm not. I did download the app, but on seeing that you had to register etc etc I opted not to as I've enough "social media" activities without adding to it

Although that might sound strange to some, especially fellow holders, anything that is factual information that can have an affect on sp would need to be released via rns so no point joining I thought

If there are some pics or simple updates on that group I'd think they'd soon appear on this site also? Hope so anyways.

Yup, I'll concur with that dusty. I do agree with castle that 2p will be again reached, but what happens thereafter depends 100% on validation of process.

In the meantime how long we need to wait on NH2 order /deal/finance news we know not.

I've no idea why the timescale from the initial rns, but any sp affecting news negative or positive would need to be rns'd so all we can do is wait.

At a guess it's to do with how the funding is actually being achieved/raised and conditions attached? But I don't know. It's something I imagine none of us on this site have been involved with so any attempts to cast fear by saying something is wrong is nothing more than that, an attempt to spread fear.

If however anyone has been involved in a fund raise / order process between an Australian based pioneering start up and a UK based small business then I'm happy to read what you know for sure through shareable previous experience.

My question is in reference to the "Andrew Forrest" post from yesterday by 15.(by the way I enjoyed the debate with 15 on the post and I think we both see each others point).

I'm wondering why there was such little challenge to what you would need to agree leans more towards a negative / questioning of phe future than as a positive, regardless of what point was being made.

Yet at the same time anything remotely positive or pro phe / hydrogen seems to attract a far higher level of input from others looking to question the detail.

I'd like to think anyone who is positive or even neutral on phe would have joined me in adding to things with their own thoughts. So from that, the only conclusion I can make is that there are a few who do not question things when negativity is being discussed.

However to be fare no one jumped on the bandwagon and promoted the story as "bad news for everyone" like the Fusion one nonsense.

So whilst we await some news, has anyone been trying to find out anything what's been happening at the pilot plant by any means (obviously sp affecting info would need to be rns'd)

Bravo 15. We agree to agree lol.

Yup, hydrogen output a bonus, and an attractive one as long as it can be sold, which my thoughts are anyone that might end up paying a licence fee etc to phe will arrange their own agreements to a willing buyer. Still early days with Hydrogen for fuel but there's a growing number of users.

I've no idea on future value (longer term) If prototype a success then we'll get some sort of confirmed revenue, then that can be recalculated against "full size model".

Then it would be that number x units sold/tech licence used.

I'll be happy with sp in 2p region as things progress through 4yh qtr. Then folk have a choice whilst results are awaited.

If it's positive news then it will be something that would surely head higher, and the opposite applies.

Just to add,

Phe are not connected to green hydrogen in any way.

My view is disposing of plastic waste is what's attractive, the fact it then can as an

output of the process create hydrogen / energy is a double bonus.

So this is why I stand by my thoughts on the subject. Paid to solve plastic waste to landfill problem, then an earner for the output.

Can't remember the numbers but it's already been shared at the AGM what that equates to £

All subjective and still to be proven, but that's the same as anything different.

That's fine 15. My take on the post was that there was a comparison being made and that the comparison was that if a wealthy billionaire was putting the brakes on hydrogen things, then that was meant to imply phe will be in the same boat.

I'm not convinced there will be that many problems at phe, sure there could be some prolonged timescale during commissioning / validation as things are "tweaked", but it's a long way until end 4th qtr so time yet for things to come together.

Maybe I've misunderstood something about Forrest's business interests that I've been reading about, but to me it still reads like he's needing to watch what the money is getting spent on and therefore his move?

Sp on quite a drop, debts to pay, falling price due to Chinese market conditions blah blah blah.

So we can agree to disagree, but I still take the view that it means little when measured against powerhouse.

12p by Xmas lol. Good luck.

Hi red, that's what I thought it must be meaning? But the link says uhl 1st AGM so who knows.

Not really exoecting either to mean much, if it were NH, any talk about phe order would need to released along with rns as it would quite possibly have an effect on sp.

Based on that any news I think would be released from phe 1st, with NH not currently listed then I'm not sure how that might pan out however

Read his reasons, all appears not well with much of his main business hence the change in where his money is best spent.

No connection between phe, or folk using their tech, using waste plastic (and getting paid to do so) to create energy, and Fortescues plans with creating "green hydrogen".

2 completely different business models. The deramps have started early this week. Not even waiting until Monday am.

Ps, don't expect castles posts today to be any help with phe sp, not sure what we can expect from uhl 1st AGM but I'm not expecting anything?

Lol. Even had me chuckling and I'm a heathen

Not 100% sure dusty, I've my doubts you can sing the men of Harlech though 🙂

Who knows Tm, perhaps phe go on to prove what they have, local and wider government take notice and their tech gets used nationwide. As for GB energy, I'm sceptical at the very least of anything labour come out with about it helping to lower my electricity bill. I'll compare this time next year and expect if any difference it will actually be higher.

Decided to stop waiting time with daily chat site activities (when theres is no official news via rns) and instead have a power read through at the close on Friday.

Seems like it was the correct choice with nothing other than the ping pong between castle and co, although shout to Tm58 for the link to gb energy, at least it's something to discuss / debate. My view is that I see getting rid of plastic waste as the "buggy" how much that could then assist with energy I'll let others answer that are more literate with all things kwh etc

So in the positive corner? We've had castle acting like Michael Caine in Zulu, heavily outnumbered but doing his best to defeat the Zulus with his links to old news/stories and his prediction of greater things to come and a higher sp.

As for negative we've had the Zulus lol. like castle, using the same old "stuff" as their substitute to a spear.

The kiln must have something wring

The old Chinese guarantee / warranty thing

But this week's creme de la creme " we should all be worried" about Fusion one.

I'd ask anyone to have a good check over all things fusion one, almost everything you can read has already been used as a stick to beat phe with by those that suddenly see it as something to worry about.

So whilst we await official news which is patent, order, commissioning then that can help explain the drift the sp is on, think swazers called 1.2 about the bottom and since then it has hit there or thereabouts a few times so possibly correct. The "big seller" and by that I mean the large volume transactions appear to be between 1.2 and 1.4 as they quite possibly take a healthy profit from buying much much lower.

The good news is that with positive news being able to cause things to move rapidly, the point where folk try and snap up shares at a relatively low sp might make that 1.2p area somewhere with strong support?

It would be nice for some new pics from phe / eng and a few words to talk about how the progress is going, not that it would effect sp, but simply as it would act as some comfort to some who unless there's a daily news bulletin fear the worst.

I'm content, it's all about 4th qtr and the commissioning stage where I expect things to really hot up. With the large spread, market size, volume, anyone attempting to day trade and make good profit in £ will be doing well that's for sure if we continue to go from 1.2 to 1.4 until then.

Next week 12p lol.

That's a reasonable comparison, the arrival of the kiln (although arguably bigger news at the time) had a short term rise before dropping back.

So the patent is expected but like we both think it's another part of the puzzle.

That is good news, regardless of short term marketvrraction to price.

Perhaps that's correct dusty, but it is certainly not bad news, so looking at the bigger picture it's another progressive step forward for the business.

It might not have a prolonged and immediate impact on the sp, but longer term it's surely another value adding positive.

I did consider it pat, I just found after my careful consideration that I felt it to be rubbish.

Was not aimed at insulting you personally, it's however my opinion on your opinion.

It's now around that "one month" statement regarding patent award. Will that be enough to see a tick up towards close. Be nice to see so, you know that fomo ferling that some folk get haha.

Imagine next week we get the patent and even order news from NH.

I'm not holding my breath as it will come when it comes, but every day we wait, is a day closer.

Test, can you advise what a H2 conversion kit would consist of. I don't know if whatever is needed is something that they can replicate at Engsolve, or is something that would need to be procured.

Still quite a way of until 4th qtr and start up time line, I'll check lead times of the equipment.

Oh dear pat.

I was open to your logic/reasoning to a degree. But you've convinced me with that, that in general it's not worth considering your omo. Lol

Considering the Chinese can build a cargo ship in 188 days that are big enough to carry more than 20,000 teu's, to even suggest there could be an issue with a small kiln is laughable. What is it,

The bad welds

The inferior steel

The wrong plug

It only works on Chinese electricity

If you are in too deep to get out, you don't need to share your rubbish with me, I'm a big boy and I can make my own mind up. Perhaps you should seek professional help before it's too late. Adieu

Assume by they you mean the white family.

Suppose if they are offloading, someone else must be loading 🤔

Commissioning is my long term interest as that is what will shape price / things going forward.

Someone selling shares where they are sitting on a profit of 100%+ is not a surprise. Wish I was in the same place, I'd be selling a few also.

Ups and downs. Nothing new.