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I meant do you have a certificate, or hold in nominee account via a broker or via Santander.

That depends on where you hold. With Santander ? See my post from last week.

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They need some cash though. I can see a fund raising and I suspect that's why buyers are hanging back.

Back in yesterday, 1500 at 448.

That's enough for me. Good luck guys but fighting against the tide seemed pointless. I'm hoping obviously to get back in when the drop finishes but market perception is dire at the moment.

Grand National in a couple of weeks. Better odds there.

To summarise. Losing money, burning cash 300k at end of year = placing of more shares. Is this company worth £8M?

Quick it's going down!

Get these share prices pumped up to silly levels ready for a placing. Call me a cynic but this looks manipulated to me. Everybody out before the music stops.

You might be closer, you might not, it's all guess work. It is, however, a company with a product of doubtful use and an appalling management track record. They might improve on past history and become an average investment, but I suspect from my experience of AIM companies that only the management will do well out of this.

Have you been smoking something? I think you've got the numbers around the wrong way. Try 500k turnover and -1.5m profit.

I've been watching this company for a while. Good to see they've got the turnover, got the profit, got the cash flow and only valued at 22 times last years pre tax profit. What's not to like.

Big drop at the open today to 488. Settled at 495ish, what will the yanks think I wonder. I presume they know that less than 25% of the business is in Euro's.

01-Feb-2013 Dividend BANCO SANTA NDER SA 1250 Shar GBP 126.99 I've copied the line off my statement, so about 10p/qtr after Spanish tax which at £5 per share =8% Depending on your broker you can elect for tax free shares instead.

Another 295 takes me up to 1500

Good luck with the trading Levis. I missed that sell opportunity yesterday. Do you use moving stop losses? Never trusted them as seem easily manipulated on the small caps I have been used to. My Av is 5.03 so wondering which way to go. Any insight appreciated.

Although we are UK investors we are shareholders in the holding company Banco Santander. They are to the best of my knowledge outright owners of the UK subsidiary. I suppose that the FSA are checking that the UK sub is not going to be short of capital from overpaying divis to the parent. The UK gov guarantee depositors money so this is a vote of confidence imho.

and haven't sold any so I sold some when they went ex-div and now wondering will they go up or down. Always good to have some cash just in case. Still a bloody good company to hold long term, just trying to squeeze a real profit instead of a paper one.

Phew, need I say anymore.