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Would it mean anything to you if they were to give you all of the data?

Also the company states they are working with ceramics with temperature of 1500c plus, the problem here is the stability of the ceramic at that temperature to the application required. In theory the process works, in practice it has tremendous problems.

DJR: Ceramics are, indeed, a challenge, hence we are working with alternative, semi-exotic materials that have proven to be both reliable and effectively impervious to caustic erosion within the temperature envelopes in which we operate.

I know many think this is the best thing since sliced bread, unfortunately it is not.

DJR : I cannot comment on personal beliefs.

Over the many years of developing the Pyromex technology it was tested at various temperatures upto 3000c, but 1500c is a good working tempreture as all waste will gasify at 1500c. It was run continuously for the maximum of 10 hours at various times. A large range of different materials were used including ceramics to try and solve the problem or rather to find an acceptable balance in which the theory of the technology could be developed in such a way to make the technology a commercial reality. The problem being that reactor core destroys itself throughout the operation.

DJR : We concur regarding the Pyromex technology. Material science has moved on quite substantively since their unit was constructed. See above.

Finding a material that can give a balance to make the technology commercially viable is the goal.

DJR : Agreed, we have undertaken sophisticated modelling, bench testing, validation proving, and extensive in situ testing, in the G3 Research Demonstrator at Thornton Science Park to identify operating regimes and material selections for each feedstock presented to us by potential customers. We have now designed a commercially viable process.

Having said that the major problem as I have said before is the oxygen in the waste being gasified, as an oxygen free atmosphere has to be maintained at all times otherwise at 1500c a dangerous situation could occur.

DJR : For such a hazardous environment situation to arise, we would need to be feeding in neat oxygen into the chamber at a significant rate, rather than the oxidising agents we are feeding. This is not an operational case. Both our empirical experience in the Demonstrator, and the scientific data derived therefrom, support our premise of operation and its safety.

I personally feel that the balance needed for this technology to progress is unattainable.
I think jaknife puts it overall quite well. For PHE it is a dream to come true, but the directors must know it will never be achieved, as they must know the downside but only want to listen to the upside. It is like a drug, once you are hooked, for various reasons you cannot walk away. However in this case, innocent people get hurt."

DJR : (See Par 3)

Here’s an interesting response from David Ryan and Keith Alaun to a potential investors concerns about posts on bulletin boards
allegedly from an ex pyromex employee

I’ve deleted the individuals name.
Quite enlightening should be of great interest to the very clever and all knowing mr Superg

I still spect the naysayers will say it is all made up!

Judge for yourselves

Subject: Re: PowerHouse
From: Xxxxxx
To: Keith Allaun
CC:

Dear Keith and David,

Thank you both so much for taking the time to respond and allaying a number of concerns.

I frequently read the bulletin boards but I am all too aware that there are many contributors with agendas at work. The person who posted this particular article has spent many hours writing damaging articles on Powerhouse so I was naturally skeptical of his motive, but the quote from an alleged former Pyrotex executive had me both spooked and cynical at the same time.

I look forward to the expected 3rd party validation of the design and further news on siting / building of our first commercial unit.

Best regards,

Xxxxx

From: Keith Allaun
Sent: 15 August 2018 17:11
To: xxxxxx
Cc: David Ryan; Cameron Davies
Subject: PowerHouse

Dear Xxxxx

Thank you for your inquiry and continued interest in PowerHouse. I w­ould not normally respond to the chatter arising from putative former Pyromex employees, or the bulletin boards in general, but I thought it prudent to address several erroneous statements. I have asked David Ryan for his thoughts directly, and he’s been so kind as to respond through his notes below.

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I have followed the share chat on this company for some time. I was one of the original founders of Pyromex and was involved in the development of its technology which somehow ended up in this company.

I know that the company has stated they have abandoned the Pyromex technology but the technology they are using is the same, they are just presenting it in a different way.

DJR : The chemical engineering processes are the same, the application to initiate the chemical engineering reactions is radically different.

The technology has its failings in that the process has to be oxygen free, but the waste being subjected to gasification has an oxygen content which could make the process very dangerous.

DJR : The Pyromex technology certainly had its failings. Hence our abandonment of it. However, the DMG System physical/chemical reaction relies on the introduction of an oxidising agent. We are effecting this in a substantively different way to some of the other processes that also introduce neat oxygen but have proven to be unviable commercially.

Also the company states they are working with ceramics with temperature of 1500c plus, the problem here is the stability of the ceramic at that temperature to the application required. In theory the process works, in practice it has tremendous problems.

DJR: (See Part2)

@jabberba: You may be happy, and that's fine. But I'm not talking about your confidence in the company, nor my own. I'm referring to the confidence in the market and what PHE needs to move forward from here. PHE needs the independent verification in order to get the permissions, and to give them the foundation to seek financing for the first commercial unit. I imagine that finalising the lease will also be dependent upon achieving the independent verification. It will also enable them to move ahead with ordering component parts for the construction of the first unit. There are so many things that will be in limbo right now just waiting on the verification.

David Ryans purchase of shares was certainly a great move as far as I'm concerned and along with what he had to say in the pod cast has definitely boosted my confidence in what they are doing. But for the company to move ahead from here need more than my confidence and yours, it needs to win the confidence of a whole raft of others that it needs to do business with, and of course we all want to see an improvement in confidence in the market.

Perhaps I was wrong to say we need verification now. Although that would be very nice, I should have said we need verification soon.

@jabberba: I'm referring to the independent verification of the system that is currently being undertaken. I appreciate that it will be released when it is ready and it will not be rushed, but what I was trying to say is that this verification is needed in order to bring about a return of confidence in the company.

We really need the verification now. That is essential to improve confidence.

Unfortunately this is what happens when someone doesn't listen carefully, or doesn't read carefully, then they pick up on certain words or phrases, jump to the wrong conclusions and then rush to the keyboard.

I was glad to hear that they are giving careful and thoughtful consideration to putting in a patent application. Clearly the time wasn't right to have put in the application before now. David seems to know what he is talking about on this matter.

https://news.sky.com/story/researchers-say-new-flow-battery-could-charge-electric-cars-in-seconds-11472194

hTTps://news.sky.com/story/researchers-say-new-flow-battery-could-charge-electric-cars-in-seconds-11472194

"I never believed for a second that a cluster of accountants could lure in Schlum and co and run the show"

They don't have to. There is a wealth of operational and management experience in the consortium, and all that SRSP have to do is bring in someone as Operations Director with experience of operations management at top level.

Is becoming a worry now.

Hardly a "cheap" tactic at £30k! These guys are not like some of the super-rich AIM directors.

Thanks for the link Thomas.

for the RNS. I reckon that will push it further up.

Real: The lse system simply isn't working. The SP is correct and up to date on the ADVFN BB, if I'm allowed to say that on here!

Watch the SP fly!

was down to 7.5
now back up to 9

down again to 9.75

SP now over 10.5