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That's not great news that it's going to take so long, much appreciate the info though Starage. My fear is that won't leave SN much room to sort out FRR's many problems such as Hope/Outrider and YA, etc. That and it may hinder investment & buy in/out. opportunities. I'm assuming FRR temporarily have the asset & can pump oil/get revenue from it? How much scope does SN have to move on all of this?
Just wondering if anyone has heard of any present activity happening on this share. Last I heard Zaza was going to appeal in the appeal and the final court showdown in the US on the asset, etc would be happening at some point.
In the meantime my concern is that the Hope/Outrider court cases are coming up, August onwards is it? YA, etc I'm guessing also. What is the state of play here? The way I see it is we have defaulted on loans and hence we are likely to lose out to them should it go it's full course and that is unlikely to be good news to us shareholders. I don't personally out much faith in Zaza's handling of the situation given his more recent activity. He seems to enjoy trying to defend pointless positions in court, I would rather we get investment in, buy in/out and settle up and get to business. All that's happened with all that carry in is time's been wasted. Better probably to sell up than let Hope, YA, etc take it all I think.
Think FRR needs to really a grip with their operation now. From the vid it's doesn't look like anything is happening there like it's all been abandoned. SN needs to get people in to get it all started up again if so. He also needs to get the accounts sorted and make sure all monies are accounted for. Seems strange to me that FRR was making millions out of oil sales but never had money to pay anyone. He needs to make sure money hasn't been siphoned off somewhere. To my mind he also needs to determine the way forward in terms of whether he can realistically get any proper investment in or can sell it off to a SM for decent money. The value of what is in the ground maybe the biggest card to play at the end of the day.
Think I'm getting the picture now, it looks to me from the video that the guy is showing that there is just one new well, Frontera's and that had to be shut off due to no one manning it as no one was being paid. The old rusty stuff is likely ex-soviet stuff along with one or two other items maybe but the rest is Frontera's but is all just sat there. My guess is that workers weren't being paid so left, the virus then happened and SN couldn't organise things from where he was/took eye off the ball meanwhile Zaza tried on his GC stunt. To my mind SN should have had more tighter grip on organising things when they failed he seems to have been entirely not present. Even from the US things can be organised via Email etc to get people in not just leave it sat there. I wonder in this front whether Zaza was feeding him misinformation or if he was just not on the ball. I fear Zaza may have been running FRR into the ground so he could take the asset leaving FRR to go bust hence avoiding any comeback from FRR. As it is we are still around at least at the moment but the fact that SN is financing the court process to take back the asset out of his own pocket apparently suggests to me that Frontera is in no state to do so. Yes of course he should do but my thoughts are if Frontera's finances were in a fit state to do so odds are he would use them and then claim the costs back of Zaza. My guess at present is the asset is the only thing going for FRR. I know revenue from oil was mentioned in the court case but I'm not sure if anything is being brought in at present judging by the pictures in the video.
I'm hoping that's the old Soviet setup they are showing as otherwise if its Frontera's base of operations it's not giving me cause for optimism. Looks like everyone has f'ed off leaving the place derelict with olive type of tree to grow around rusty old drilling rigs.
Personally I am now feeling that Zaza has really mismanaged the company during his time as Director only managing to move the asset out of Hope's hands. It doesn't look like he has done anything to develop the field since we delisted or sort out the company's woes. Where has the money gone? He didn't pay YA as should have been leaving another debt default mess to clear up, he didn't get new proper investment in, whatever happened to the Baker Hughes deal we don't know, workers were not paid as they should have been and to top it's all he tried to walk off with the asset. One big mistake employing him to run the company it seems.
Good to have some communication from the company but it's little we don't know already. Until the asset is securely 100 percent certified back in FRR's hands I don't see FRR as being able to get the investment it needs or buy ins/outs, etc.
If Zaza wasn't being a tw*t we would likely already be in a position in terms of having a deal done on proper investment, buy in/out, etc and as shareholders, Zaza included being one of them could all be a lot richer. Instead Zaza has gone on a pointless expedition of his own creating to try and get all for himself. He's just wasting precious time, the asset will be returned to FRR at the end of the day that is evident in the court cases to date. All he is succeeding in doing is pointlessly wasting more time needlessly in pursuing a case he will never win. He needs to stop all this sillyness right now and agree to give up his Green Capital case for them having the asset. Then we can get proper investment in, Buy In/Out, etc and all get wealthy. We can pay of Hope, YA, etc and get a good return on our investment, that is what we are all here for. No one deserves just to take the lot and deprive others invested in this share.
Before too long now we are going to start getting back into the Hope/Outrider court case, is it August time it kicks off again? Failing a miracle, we owe Outrider $40m and YA around $2m. We may not like them but we signed up to terms of the loan agreements and we need to pay these off. A proper investment deal or buy in/out, etc could sort all of that out at the stroke of a pen yet FRR are not going to be able to do that if they don't have the asset 100 percent certified back under our control. In that case if these trials go the distance we will all likely lose out, quite probably the lot I'm guessing and that means we all get little or no return, Zaza included. Hence why Zaza should throw in his pointless attempt now of trying to win a case he will never win so we can get this sorted now and all walk of all the more wealthier.
So now that the TRO case has been decided what news might we expect to crop up now on this share? Is there a full trial date set against Zaza/Green Capital? Is FRR following up on anything necessary to do in Georgia regarding the whole GC thing? Did Green Capital end up running off with anything? and can FRR now continue collecting in money from oil sales, developing the field and finding possible investment or buy in/out to finally make progress on all of this?
I personally get the impression a lot of these court cases need to be settled now one way or the other to be amicable to both parties if we are to make progress. If Zaza has taken money he shouldn't off through missing oil/GC then that of course still needs to be recovered and followed up upon.
I've been thinking that Zaza in control of Frontera when he was running the company has likely not been doing the good job he should have been doing. In my opinion YA should have been paid off and we likely had the money too but seem to have chosen to default anyway. The field should have been developed more with the likes of Baker Hughes or another partner/investor. Other disputes also should have been settled, workers pay, other claimants, etc. To my mind it seems a lot of time & effort has needlessly been wasted when it could have been put to better use developing the field so we could have all walked away with something decent by now. If all the squabbling continues we might all end up with nothing as a result of time expiring on the license and the GG taking it back after seeing precious little having been done. The shareholders at large will be the main innocent party to lose out in all of this and after all the money we've put in this shouldn't be the case. Time FRR shapes itself up I think.
Good to hear the news yesterday that the court granted the temporary injunction against Zaza/Green Capital and stated that the asset is still with us and not part of the liquidation due to the administrative error registering the asset by the Georgians :)
ZM here seems to be an increasingly desperate man willing to take as many cheap pot shots as he can to run off with some dosh. It seems to be descending into idiocy from him now. So he is trying to sue for breach of fiduciary duties from the directors even though he was one, the main one for many years before being given the push a few months ago??? Lol. While he may be suing as a shareholder not an employee he seriously can't negate the fact that he was also an employee, the main one supposed to be leading the company. I don't fathom how he seems to think he can set up a situation that leads into trouble then try to benefit out of the situation he was in control off? Pure lunacy it seems to me. All he is doing is hindering progress. If Zaza, Hope, etc stopped going out for themselves wanting to swipe and take it all and just worked with or at least stood aside while FRR develop the oil & gas field we would all be a lot richer sooner. No one wins by these idiotic tactics, not shareholders, Zaza, Hope, YA, Georgian people etc, etc, just lawyers when they eventually get paid.
It's time they drop all this idiotic rubbish and agree to settle all this business. I'm not reckoning it on happening but it's really time the likes of Zaza grow up and stop being such a pr*t.
If the Judge knows that there is a long queue of people after Zaza wanting to give him a good kneeing where it counts and the rest then that should tell her he ain't a good'un. If all company Directors acted in the manner Zaza has they would be a lot of investors wanting to find out where they live too.
Zaza and his family, cousins, uncles, sons, etc are likely to do a runner with any money in my opinion that has already been taken. It will likely be a case of the usual playbook in use out there, grab it then just keep moving it, splitting it up, passing it sound and back and forth to try and keep it out of the hands of those with a claim on it FRR/shareholders and over time hope to lay low/pass enough time to make it hard to reclaim.
All depends on how effective international law is and the authorities, FRR etc being on the ball and making swift effective moves to get it back. Whether Zaza etc can be nabbed is another matter. He'll likely try to evade anything he can.
I'm hoping that the courts will see the light as to the wrongdoing Zaza has done and won't pass judgements that lengthen out the ordeal. End of the day I think we'll need the help of the US government to prompt the GG to act and aid in the return of the asset license to FRR its rightful owners.
In theory FRR was set up as part of a government strategy to get the ex-soviet satalite states independent of Russia and more powerful and enable them to stand up to Russian influence and aggression as partners to the US in the region as you no doubt know Coggy from their history. So Bill White was it and apparently a few other government officials, senators possibly congressmen. So indeed a CIA influence could be possible, but to me it looks like their either having a time in their hands or dropped the ball badly as they should have been keeping a closer eye and involvement to resolve all the issues we've been having. If it's in their interest to get the field developed quickly then our experience would tend to indicate that due to the long drawn out nature of things they probably aren't involved. Possibly they might have been in the early days in drawing up the strategy but think they probably lost interest many years ago.
I would be peeved if Green Capital had to be paid that $5.8 million was it, to my mind that sounded a load of bs down to some dodgy court in Georgia. I think that may have been a case that FRR weren't even aware of the court case if that was the one.
Anyhow, I think FRR have to get rid of the loan sharks and make progress in trying to develop the field. Better to try than not, end of the day so long as the field is worth a lot even if we can't pump it out quick enough we should then hopefully be able to get an extension and a buyout by a SM I would hope.
"In closing, as I have referenced in prior communications, Frontera has prepared itself for continued significant investment in Georgia in the post-COVID-19 environment. Specifically, our US-based banking relationships have secured a US$100 million financial facility for our continued investments in Block 12. This will bring renewed employment in Georgia, increased oil and gas production from the Kakheti region as well as a positive renewal of our partnership with GOGC/SAOG."
Looks like it's down to, "US-based banking relationships" rather than the US gov unless they are involved as part of this if that is what you are referring to Coggy. Taking it just on a banking footing which I assume is at commercial rates it could help with offloading Hope/Outrider and YA. Paying them of would be well worth seeing the back of them I think. Then the rest could be spent on the oil field. Then finally we might see a return back. If SN moves now on this then there could still be enough time to get a decent return I think and perhaps an extension and buyout. If the GOGC see the field being developed then there is reason for them to extend the license as otherwise if FRR pack up and go they go with the data and rigs as well as far as I see it.
I agree Mole, to me it looks like YA could have been paid off and Hope's interest paid, plus the field developed with Baker Hughes. Yet it looks to me that Zaza has deliberately let those important debt payments slide and put the company deliberately in a worse position than it should have been hence pushing it artificially towards liquidation process where he could engineer it so that his family under Green Capital unduly get the asset. It seemed strange to me that they weren't paying hardly anyone but they were getting decent money in from the field so should have easily been able to pay YA off their 2 million but didn't. Most companies would be busting a gut to get rid of their loan sharks as soon as they could. All a set up by Zaza and SN seems to have been asleep on the job and not seen it coming.
Yeah we thought Hope was a lowlife. Then we get Zaza come up and want to grab it all. What's more however in the wrong he is odds are he'll object all the way so entitled is he to think no one else should get any including shareholders who have invested millions in this oil & gas field.
"Difficult to tell from the judge as she is very relaxed in her commentary "it may be important in who ever appeals my decision" lax language for a judge or is she suggesting she thinks this is above her pay grade."
I thought this was the appeal. Maybe it is American sense of humour, i.e sarcasm.
Surely we're not going to have appeals of the appeal.
Thanks Looed, where do we know the judge ruled in FRR's favour with regard to jurisdiction? missed that. I thought she might as she let the case continue and figured that's why Zaza wasn't looking so great as people said. Guessing it's just mainly whether the restraining order can stay in place now, hopefully it will and should I think then FRR can hopefully make progress in getting this mess sorted out. Any failure not to succeed as we should in this court appearance would entail a longer drawn out affair that we don't need I think.
I think you are right R8pilot they definitely should persue Zaza for the wrong doing he has done here not just recover what was taken. The course taken would depend on what recourse there is of course.
As far as the court case is concerned some here said that Zaza didn't look too great during and towards the end of it. Not sure whether to read into that but as the case resumed from the previous day could that indicate that the Judge had decided to proceed and not rule that it can't be judged on the US on technicalities as Zaza's side I believe wanted? Wouldn't seem much pint going on with the case had she decided their argument had any merit as the rest of the discussion would be rather pointless. Could still rule that I guess but hopefully she will back up the previous judge in ruling in FRR's favour as I don't think Zaza has anything substantial points that hold up to base it on.
Thanks Mole you're input is most appreciated. Hopefully SN & Dustin etc can get back on the job once this is sorted and see if the oil can be sorted to get more in from it and try and tap into the gas to see if anything lucrative. If not do much oil then maybe Hope will come to an agreement if the big pull of loads of money is no longer so great.
Johnathan you may be right in any case it still looks like we need a major investor in to sort it all out. Guess that won't be possible until the assets is firmly back from Zaza and any money taken improperly returned.
The Hope thing still needs to be resolved. Hopefully it can all be resolved soon if we're lucky.