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Who would have thought it.

Unfortunately the markets don't lie and the long term direction of this doomed company seemed sealed unless they can ditch what they have and bring in talent who can turn this around they have basically put the fix in with the chickens with thei appointment and cant attract talent as the future is so uncertain.

They have a very good track record of this and only this. Big waiting game for the markets to have any confidence in vodafone.

Its unfortunate that all this talk is around a company that has nothing in its favour at the moment eng. Not just one of the worst performing in its sector but in the FTSE100. Something will give soon. It will break out or go. No comoany us too big to fail and they areso riddled with debt its hard to seea way back but its a strange market.

As the FTSE goes up this goes down. As the FTSE falls this plummets. Vodafone is long gone with its business model, declining revenue, increased interest rates on excessive borrowings and sale of assets to bring down debt but then paying stupid money for licences that will never return investment.
Now would any reputable CEO want to leave where they are and come to this.
Will a merger save them. Who knows but the company is out of favour. Good news of a CEO may make a difference fir a couple if weeks but fundamentals don't change.germamy is a key market and they are losing business. Finally when the people who work for them can't be interested in looking after you its no wonder people are changing carriers

Good luck but follow the trends

Why is it taking so long.

Barclays just stands out as one company that should be shut down by the regulators. They cant stay put of trouble and time after time shareholders are paying for the recklessness of those pretending to know what they are doing. This time around no bail outs for banks. Let them fail. The country will survive and may even recover. One thing for certain is that these institutions have learnt nothing from the past. And how on earth can the govt relax bonus rules given the cost to the country these banks have caused. As they say if you don't like clowns don't go to the circus. Stay away from this circus.

Take a look at the last 5 years of vodafone and this isn't true
Just keeps falling and cant keep up without increasing debt. Not sure what can turn this around but its clear the company is not a popular choice and despite its size is struggling or am I missing some fundamentals here.

The markets rose 400 points and vodafone has continued to drop. If logic remains it should have risen when the markets rose. It didn't because the spin machine trying to paint a rosy picture failed again

The rampers keep bagging anyone who makes a comment they disagree with. Very much a generationa thing. All those bagging the company are asking is for numbers around the belief for the future.
They offer nothing, criticise suggesting that this is not the purpose for the site and then banter with each other about fooseball and what their doing over the weekend. Get a grip. Join a teams group or Facebook but unless you can accept that everyone has and can share an opinion probably time to either do what many of the immature ones have done and blacklist owake up and back up the hype.
VODAFONE is on its way out. I hope it can have small rally so I can get out minimising my loss but too much debt,too badly managed and can't see any BS they try to spin making a difference. If I'm wrong I'll gladly admit it being down 3k at present but its just a basket case at present

At sme point they will pay more interest on a ridiculous debt . I am sure the club running this joke won't stop payingoutbonyses, it will be paid for from dividends unless higher contract prices makes a difference but this will probably only cover increased costs such as payroll rents etc.
They are in a mess and given the talent running the company who have a great record of trying to talk up poor results, increase debt and drive down the share price who knows how long it will continue. Worst decision I have made was to touch this company. Averaged down hoping for a fightback but heading towards 50p soon if it cant gain support in high 80s. God help us all

This will sink if thd board cannot restore market confidence. They are failing badly and should possibly look at a career change and bring in a fresh perspective. It hasn't worked and really aching 45b debt and destroying SH value is not a great achievement.

Years of incompetence is now taking hold.
The boardcant sit back and wonder why. They are to blame.
All they have been successful in is raising debt and diminishing shareholder value. And of course rewarding failure.
There is no one person to blame although the CEO had to go, I am sure the board set the direction so if they have integrity they would do the right thing but as with politics this dosent happen. Where does this level out or is it now just the beginning of a very painful decline until the company is taken over but who would want to take on 45b debt with no way if paying it back.
I bought in 4 times hoping hoping for a levels g out but now 20% down and its as mentioned its either get out with a huge loss, hold and hope for best or hold and lose it if they fail. What a fking mess

Bought in 4 times to bring the average down and each time it drops another 3 p

Time for the institutions to have the balls to say no to the bonus structure in this company and link to share price.

No point paying a 3.8 dividend to then lose this and more as debt rises and confidence goes.

If the board were football managers they would have gone long ago

Correct when you look at the markets as a whole and then see company's like this slowly going one way its clear what the markets think. Confidence is gone and something needs to happen for this to be restored.

Paid 4.3 m last years and since taking over has seen the share price drop from 1.60 to current

Continually tries to ramp up poor results and gets savaged by the marketseach time there is a ststrment

With a div of 4.5p tomorrow at these levels you would think this share would be snapped up. God help us tomorrow.

Short sellers must be loving this company.

Hasen't there been enough damage done. Has a great track record in increasing debt but does that count.

These institutions do this constantly. Either trying to force the price down to protect short positions or drive the price down to buy cheap. Either way they are usually based on their own research and stands out from the rest. You have to wonder why.

Being with vodafone for years and smiling makes me wonder. You must have lost around 40% of capital value. You also have a dividend now on 90 rather than 1.40. Also have a lot more debt. Tighter maker with interest rates

As they say futures not bright the futures not orange and not vodafone.

They are making the situation worse by speaking. They have delivered rubbish to shareholders this morning and are continuing to speak. Its dribble and the markets are reacting to this. They just need to shut up and let this settle down.

Rising interest rates
Massive debt
Economic squeeze
Continuing to pay stupid money for licences

Vodafone will remain but can't see the current structure into the future