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Yes , You would think they would name THEM

Good answer Piltick. So can we please drop the "mouse trap" term Stumbler. It is a very old term of abuse meaning (I suppose ) that it was insignificant and not a meaningful step forward ( i.e. just a better mousetrap) Things have moved on since the days in Oz, even though we haven't yet constructed or tested the 25/35 t/day unit. The G3 UHt (Gasifier) unit as it is more correctly called, is connected to the Thornton Park micro-grid. Sorry , The term Gasifier is now taboo , It is now Generator I think. Call it G3 if you prefer.

Good reply Mucker. My initial response to fish2 was ,why would you want to transport hydrogen by road (in dirty diesel trucks presumably) when there is a perfectly good energy distribution system with the electricity grid which can also be green if using spare capacity wind and solar. His main point however is that there aren't enough filling stations around the country to make it worth while to buy a hydrogen car . The reason for this ,as you pointed out, is the damedable chicken and egg problem. Only 8 filling stations (With 3 more on the way) , and those mainly down south will not get the ball rolling. This is why most green hydrogen producers are looking at other vehicle markets like trucks and buses where a company will have one hydrogen filling station for a fleet. This has been discussed many times on this board. One way the car market could be encouraged is if these companies would open their station to fleet cars or even individual private cars. This would increase car production and bring the price per car down and increase demand for hydrogen thus unlocking the C& E syndrome. One point about hydrogen tankers is that there are hydrogen powered trucks in production now I believe ( mentioned on this board) that could be used with a tanker trailer.. This would be a better green alternative.

Piltick If you read the link ,they are talking about Plasma jet engins which are still quite si Fi . They do go very fast (20 Km /sec )but require a lot of electricity. They have made a drone that flies.

Likewise cigarets would be a Class A drug

I certainly hope so Piltick . According to DR this should have been around 7th April but no doubt still tied up in legal red tape.

HO hum . Germans getting ahead of us again.

I see Graham Purdy is now an NED on Bacanora Lithium. Is this a good or bad thing? Discuss.

Yes certainly Newboy. The prototype was just to test the gasifier unit . That word is not now used as it puts off Natural England and others so, as I recall, it is now the "Distributed Modular Generator". I did point out that computer modeling has been done to test the design but I agree , there is no substitute for real world testing.

Yes piltick . As I said. A COMERCIAL prototype. That seems a much better title as it is not confused with the original prototype

I think you are a bit out of date Muscoram . The PROTOTYPE G3 is in operation now and has been for two years. The yet to be Built DMG (35tonne /day) first of a kind (or prototype commercial unit ,as I prefer to call it) does have to be proved to work in real world conditions as you say. Even though the design has been independently validated, ( and run on computer modeling), there is no substitute for a years worth of continuous operation before we can say it is a success. Very likely during that time there will be modifications. That is what happens in real engineering. I don't think there is any reason to be pesimistic however with a good design team in place. Also bare in mind that most of the components of the system are "off the shelf" proven devices used in other systems.

Thanks Seaangler.

Unfortunately I am forced to use these in my retirement home as we are not trusted with gas. They are ,as you say Twilight , very poorly controlled. Mine don't even have external thermostatic control , Newer ones do however but I don't think it is worth while to change at my age. We do have purpose built water heaters which are quite efficient . I do think it might still be a good idea to get an "instant" hot water heater for the kitchen however to avoid the problem you mentioned

I think there is also a scenario of using the old offshore gas rigs which have the undersea pipework already installed. Not sure how many still exist though. In this case the wind turbine needs to be installed.

OK . That is fare enough Wellwell. I don't know anything about the formalities of Council meetings. I am only grateful that there are public spirited people willing to be counsellors. It would bore the pants off me to sit through all that!

There was a question about flood prevention in the meeting. As the site is in a low lying marsh area ,this does concern me as well. I hope Protos in particular has flood prevention plans in place especially because of the dangers we know of now.

No . For the previous applications the mics were turned off as happened at other intervals. OR perhaps each member needed to turn their mic ON

Yes I do know all that Audible. I know I am being picky and am also sure it was passed but there was a vote and I am annoyed that I could not hear the formal result of the vote. Could you?

Audible : How did you know it was formally approved? I listened carefully as the mics WERE left on but could not hear the word "Passed" . Even though all who spoke were in favour.

Yes It did seem so as they left the mics on BUT how did you know exactly as no "passed " word was spoken? Were you at the Meeting