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I would happily swap a hard working, law abiding, flexible immigrant for a work shy indigenous national.

Add in housing benefit, tax credits, child benefit, DLA.

Yes we can. Reduce welfare payments. Painful vote loser so no one is brave enough to do. I think they were looking to do this with universal credit, the beginning of at least. Government made a right mess of that. Create aspiration. Create drive. Create incentive. Whole lives are lost and wasted because of the welfare state. All the rights and none of the responsibilities. Someone else always picks up the tab.

There is no shortage of UK workers. BIG myth. However, UK workers do not want to work for wages they feel are beneath them and welfare pays more. Said worklessness is not aided by national labour refusing to relocate. Why move when you can play on on your PS4 all day, apply for jobs, go for the interviews and f'off the potential employer to such an extent he let's the DWP know you attended but were unsuccessful. Payments from the state continue ad infinitum. The rise in the minimum wage was attempting to resolve this, or at least try. Ner, all it did was suck more money out of SME's and restrict investment, and thereby slow or halt productivity. Our productivity is shockingly poor. Lazy man of Europe? Tax credits...another example of flawed economic policy.

Yes Troajan that is correct. However, I ain't the one blaming Brexit for it though. Honda, yawn. Toyota, yawn. Brexit to blame, yawn.

No troajan. You are describing a process any GCSE geographer can describe. Primary, to secondary, to tertiary to quaternary. It is a model. A statistical valid model. These industries you describe are the dinosaurs I spoke of. Gone and they will not return.

Troajan. I have no objections to migration...this is an island nation. Uncontrolled and unfettered is another issue for both the receiver and the giver.

Yes. Not 3rd world though. You missed that key point. I am an internationalist, not a globalist.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-22/german-factory-slump-drags-down-euro-area-growth-in-march Both France and Germany in the poop. Let's hope Commerz Bank and Deutsche Bank stay afloat especially since they are propping up the Italian banks. Although a banking collapse ain't going to do WRES investors any favours. Before Christmas please Michael.

K3. That is just the start. Europe is a big old slow dinosaur. The old guard. A successful modern economy needs to be slick, flexible, manoeuvrable and tech driven...no dinosaurs allowed. Now...who is my anti EU MEP as I need to be ready :-) On another note, last week of this month and this quarter. What ya got Michael?

Tonlin, I agree. We view all of this through the lenses of Western wealth. I wish to stay wealthy and I am a great believer in exporting wealth and not importing poverty or creating poverty. The sharing of wealth, not the handing it over (Export to include distribution with the UK). Help nations to help themselves. Firstly stop total tw$ts in power bombing everything and stirring up trouble for everyone. Stop funding regimes. Stop trying to undermine legitimate governments. Increase bio research (insert genetic modificafion) so that poorer nations can grow crops in salinated soil or can increase nitrogen uptake. Reforestation of sub Saharan Africa. Water purification. Support legitimate governments (although that is a snake pit too as who is to decide who is legit and by whose authority). If I was poor, hungry and needed the best for my children and lived somewhere in the 3rd world, I know what I would want to do. Remove trade barriers to allow poorer nations to access the wealth created. Don't steal poorer countries young. Don't steal professionals from poorer (3rd world?) countries. Don't steal their resources. Use less. Train our own. Train others. Prepare for the future with more people (older in the case of the West), fewer jobs, less resources and AI. Simple hey?

Hbob. Interesting. The Ukrainians may disagree, especially those in Crimea. Yugoslavia? British and US body bags in the main. I think those involved in recent terrorist attacks will disagree too. I guess peace is subjective. That talk also implies that without the EU we would have war, really? No dialogue between European nations? Troajan. If you are happy to take the Euro. Happy for uncontrolled and unfettered immigration (see EU policy on movement of immigrants and refugees), happy to have a puppet parliament and a big boss who is beyond any grievances you may have, supporting of subsidies, pro Lisbon Treaty then vote remain. Yes I mentioned immigration then, because it will be a bigger issue. Actually there is part of me that would like a second vote. As I can vote in an anti EU MEP. The EU is looking into a pit of snakes, we can add to the snakes. I like this. Yes let's try and get 40+% anti EU MEPs into the EU parliament. That will be fun. Much like all the anti labour people that registered with labour to vote Corbyn in. That has created some fun. Yes, I voted that in too. Best £3 i ever spent. If he gets in the left will be truly dead...that was the plan. Seems to be working. Couldnt have hope the Tories would implode too. This is great fun. Rise Phoenix, rise. What we need to be thinking about is peak employment and how to deal with an increasing population and a decreasing of jobs. It is coming. See Japan. AI. AI. AI.

Troajan so have VW and Audi increased production? No, they are looking to merge. The French car manufacturers have merged to avoid collapse....I don't recall the Germans leaving Europe or the French. Honda and Toyota are rationalising. Jag and landriver are the same company. Went too heavy into diesel, diesel is dying. China has stopped importing as much as it slows. Absolutely f' all to do with Brexit. Wow, if the diesel issue and China slowing down is due to Brexit then we should have a boon if it is reversed. Troajan, what is 10%? Staff? Office space? Profits? Turnover. In terms of banks moving, I would watch this space. Canary Wharf is full of old Exeter Uni boys and co. No mass exodus...yet. If you think banks are loyal to anyone then you are in need of help. They will move with the wind, They move around. Wow, some people think all trade with the EU will just stop. It wont.

GIT. I preferred the shooting.

Troajan. Really? BOE also said pound would collapse and economy would die if we voted leave. Actually inward investment in the UK is the largest it has ever been. All businesses? Really. Funnily enough Norton motor bikes proves that ALL do not agree. Sterling falling, not a problem. I like inflation low right now. Car industry is dying as is. Heavy industry is dying as is. Remove subsidies, definitely dead. UK manufacturing is shi$$ing itself in general as AI is coming and British industry is lagging...no need to invest when we have an endless pool of cheap labour from overseas. Also accounts for a lack of productivity growth. As I have said before, Japan are way ahead and future proofing, including managing their demographic shift. Aging. All economists? I am not sure on that either, but I wont list names that would prove ALL is wrong. I am looking for my figures on exports. Standby. Well see shall see what happens wont we. If Jizzer gets in, then socialism and sky fairies will result in a swifter death for us all rather than a slow carbon and methane (more so than carbon) induced boiling.

GIT. Sorry for the delay....Rugby dear boy, rugby and then some shooting. Busy man is Oldie. GIT. I will not answer straw man arguments. I never mention how many votes parliament have, NO WHERE. Secondly I never mentioned how much the NHS would save. Not even in my train of thought, but it is yours. Any reading g my comments would see that I am no fan of the NHS in its present state . No fan at all. Hbob. Can you adjust that figure to include students please, foreign nationals. Also, how to you adjust the figures to include the thousands of Somalis here on Dutch passports, there are other examples available. They use both passports. Hbob, the same. I have made no reference to controlling immigration. Another straw man argument. Asking someone to defend a point they haven't made makes the person pressing the point look weak. If you read back over my posts you will clearly see that I have said, and stated that immigration will not change, only the nature of the immigrant. A few more gimmegrants I expect. GIT the ONS figures cannot be trusted as they receive data from the CBI who are very pro EU (receive funding actually) However, still no one provides an argument for remain.

GIT. Leave meant leave. The ballot paper was quite clear. I notice how on the remove article 50 petition how many times Idi Amin has voted. We should have left the day after the vote. Parliament had approval. Then let the EU and us begin to chat. The trade is mostly one way, and not in our favour. It also accounts for a max 18% of our trade, the average is closer to 14% i.e. 86% of our trade is outside the EU and the trade outside is more profitable for our nation. If we end up not leaving then we need to remove parliament, it will be an unnecessary burden. We can be governed from Brussels. Works for me. Still waiting for someone to tell me what Remain means. Guy Verhofstadt, Barnier, Merkel, Selymar and Tusk all have a pretty good idea. When you give those future paths to remainers a good number say 'no thanks, we don't have to do that anyway'. EU is removing vetoes in the next 2 years. It is all there in the Lisbon Treaty. They just want the nice soundbite bits. So again, tell me what remain means?

Hbob. They were all lied to. It was not the EU either. Your are being disingenuous. It was a trade arrangement only, steel and coal originally. No one has voted since. It has just grown. The EU didn't even exist. The original sign up paperwork and footnotes are all available now, funnily enough they were hidden at the time. I wonder why? Is it because they clearly state 'loss of democracy and sovereignty? Full integration and a single currency? Ireland were promised (after they rejected the Lisbon treaty- which is the devils own work) that legislation on abortion wouldn't change....hmmm now let's see. Vote again Ireland. Hbob, how many votes would you like? Keep going until you get the answer you want. I will even go as far to say a second vote would result in more leavers. This is the death of democracy but is nothing compared to what Corbyn and clan have planned...I wont even start on blasphemy laws through the back door. I am still waiting for a remainer to tell me what remain means. Not one has given me an answer.

Safety. John Major's government thought up the idea of academies. LABOUR brought it in. Tuition fees. LABOUR again. Hbob. You did watch this video that I posted didn't you? https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/video-emerges-of-jeremy-corbyn-blasting-eu-and-second-referendums/vi-BBTdgSM Labour want uncontrolled immigration. Why? Well they need a constant supply of 'needy' voters. That is exactly what Tony did. Unless you are a champagne socialist of course, then you just talk the talk and expect someone else to pick up the tab.

K3. That what's I was looking at. It it goes well (ha ha) then that asset gathering will pay off. I like the 2.5p here too ha. Troajan...will it get bought out...I think that is what people are looking at. Hbob. I will have a look, just looking for ideas in the future and ones to watch. Not going to be doing much this year, want out by Christmas and then wait until the Spring. Thank you all.