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Thanks so you think 12p

I think 29p

Anyone else willing to make a guess?

Oleric: Do you think it will be higher or lower than my estimate?

Its easy to say to someone "The price will not be the price you say it is".....

ITs harder to give your own price.... Come on, we're all sort of internet chums here...

What is your price for last day of AUGUST 2025?

Cheers Net.

ChatGPT says Estée Lauder is "probably" Croda's largest customer for its cosmetic ingredients.

Estée Lauder are on record via Vogue Business (in MAY 2025) as wanting to world leaders in COSMETICS FOR SLEEP

"“Sleep is a very exciting territory for us,” says Jennifer Palmer, Estée Lauder’s SVP of global skincare product development and marketing. “We want to be the leaders and the experts in all things night. We want to have all the solutions that our consumers seek.” Earlier this year,"

https://www.voguebusiness.com/story/beauty/how-good-sleep-became-a-beauty-status-symbol

Cheers Net

What price do you think this will be by end of August?

I'm going for 25p...

(on back of gearing up to seeing Zenakine cosmetics in the shops and better than expected financial report)

What are your views.

Thanks

TheContender: The video came out (or was added to google search) only within the last 12 hours. So 36 views is probably just her mates (and relatives).... You'll have to wait a week before numbers have any meaning.....

Cheers Net.

Zenakine YouTube Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tizKvx-4cw

Can an accountant help? I was thinking if SBTX will have money in "CASH" from the share float and money in "CASH" from CRODA. How will we know which is which? Does there have to be something in the AIM legal requirements that forces SBTX to tell us how much money it has from CRODA? Or is it allowed to hide it amongst all the other cash coming in from other sources?

Thanks for any help on this matter.

Cheers Net.

R55DRG : "you said days turn into years with SBTX".... Can you give some context? You appear to be saying there is some news what was meant to be days away now you think it will be years away.

Can you clarify what news this is? Its a bit too vague to be meaningful

I think the fall was all very normal stuff - "Sell on News" - its as old as the hills..

Its like the rise up to ex-dividend and the fall immediately afterwards.

What counts is not the fall but rather can it climb back up now that Zenakine is only a few months away from being in the shops...

I thought I'd give my "Broker Note" Just to see if I'm on the same page as many people.

I think this share stands a good chance of breaking 17p by the end of the month.

Do you see it likewise OR do you think we are stuck in the 16.5 area for another month?

Cheers Net.

Broker Forecasts not worth paper written on:

Typical example recent Phoenix PHNX.L broker note from JP Morgan:

*JPMORGAN RAISES PHOENIX GROUP PRICE TARGET TO 595 (565) PENCE - 'UNDERWEIGHT'

Two Comments from ADVFN:

1. JPMorgan are absolute jokers. 9+% yield at their raised target. LOL. Way behind the curve.

2. You have to laugh why are raised priced targets way below current share price?

No one takes these notes seriously apart from is the price UP or DOWN...... The rest of what they say is balony...

House broker my aarse - that just means House Wine - normally more craap then average...

This is nuts... You're looking at the minutia of a BROKER NOTE... In my whole 45 years of investing I've never seen anything like it... People look at the UP or DOWN bottom line and that is it. Our one say 29p - that is good for me..

All this craap stuff you're going on about is all crazy talk. A broker doesn't know any more than we do - its just their stab in the dark - 29p..

What on earth is wrong with 29p as a start........

Words fail me.... No wonder most of you are losing money - you clearly cant see the wood for the trees... You're trying to see if the broker has got the right type of deciduous trees (and he said conifers) when all that counts is the wood says 29p

Bazzaman: you said "most investors here" - come on whenever has a broker note in the whole history of broker notes held any other meaning apart from PRICE HIGHER or LOWER than here.... Go to LGEN message board every day a different broker note says BUY or SELL - they all are wildly different - there is no meaning - its really just one mans (or womans) quick view of that company... I feel his (or her) 29p is all that counts and that is a good first step...

Your "inaccuracies" you mention are obviously crazy - a broker note is called a NOTE for a reason.... Its not a PhD thesis....

SELL UP MATE this share is making you a bit nuts.

The update seemed fine to me..... I feel you should cut your losses and move on.

You've obviously lost the plot.

Good luck with your future investments. Clearly this one is not for you.

Leapfroggy: re this statement: "Superdrug launch is a year early when in fact investors were expecting a 2025 launch anyway."

I know that is untrue as investors were expecting, at best, a DEAL with a major store this year not a LAUNCH - so its possible that you made a mistake (or white lied) to make a point but over gilding the lilly always backfires in the end.

Cliostock: OK I might be biased as I've only been here since 19p... BUT I still think the delay etc is not really the CEOs fault - one never really knows when a stock will take off - in fact CEOs are notoriously optimistic about their stocks and often buy shares themselves at way too high a price miles too early. Its like an oil company striking oil - finding the oil is often the beginning of the story.... Making money might be years away..... Blaming the CEO now is rather pointless..... We just have to wait like fishermen - if we are publicly too loud and negative the fish might all swim away. In a sense MrHumble is pointing a megaphone at the fish not just at us..... We cant ban him - we can only ignore him as best we can - but we all know he is damaging.

One of FTSE100 Haleon's main markets is "Skin Health".... I wonder if we should offer them a deal of some sort..... They need some new "hip and happening" products...

Their share price is taking a bit of a pasting so they will need to do something...

Belgrano: The word "clearly" is not as clear as you think. Those big trades often have different prices so I cant see this al be arranged as some big master plan - its appears to be each buy (or sell) is arranged individually..... Perhaps do a dummy bid for 300K shares and see what price you get offered

Jansy: You are sort of wrong. Currently ABTX is like holding a LOTTERY TICKET..... No one is allowed to say if you have won or not until the NUMBERS COME OUT OF THE HAT (RESULTS) or ZENAKINE APPEARS ON THE SHELVES OF SHOPS...

SBTX is our 10 bag lottery ticket.... For sure the CEO could tell the world -" Roll up roll up - take a punt on Skin Brain Axis - its a global craze" but he will not be able to give estimates of numbers sold or anything... So he might as well kept stum until RESULTS or SHELVES.....

We on the other hand can do our bit by NOT MOANING AT HIM but rather DO OUR OWN ADHOC ESTIMATING BASED ON DATA WE CAN SCRAP TOGETHER FROM VARIOUS BITS AND BOBS....

Bazaa: You cant really blame the broker for the current demand for the share. AIM shares are promoted via Investors Chronicle, TW., Elrico etc....If its not gone up then the problem most likely is the press are not convinced (as yet) that ZENAKINE is a wonder ingredient and or SBTX will get over 10% in royalties....

Yes the world can see that the latest thing is GUT and SKIN health.... And SBTX are in the right market at the right time...

But

I guess TW., Investors Chronicle and Elrico etc want to see the money or the product on shelves first.....