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Aus3009. Your reply to my enquiry regarding any formal qualifications or real world involvement in the telecommunications industry, was as expected. But thank you for the response, disappointing as it may be for those who perhaps would have liked a more informed reply in order to give confidence in your technical competence.

Yes my comment regarding unused fibre installation by Trooli, gives an insight to where I may reside. Thing is there network runs from Dorset along the south coast to Kent then up the east coast to Suffolk and to the north of London, lovely parts of the country, found a lovely seafood restaurant once on my travels in Folkestone overlooking the harbour, nice place the south coast, still back to the matter in hand. A fairly large area to look in even for an educated guess, me thinks. As you say there are ways that a users device can be identified, there ISP keeping records, as required by UK law for 12 months, but not all countries require this so it is dependent on where you are in the world. Reputable VPN providers appear to operate in locations where there are no legal requirements for the storing of customers data beyond that needed to purchase a subscription, so no record of a users internet data, apparently there is a very good one based in Switzerland that confirms that the originating IP address and other end user data is not passed beyond there VPN servers. But as I have stated some of that is outside of my knowledge base, but their website has mention of security around customers data, location and use.

The biggest problem with many people is they tend to use the same login data and even the same profile name over various public access sites, can you believe that eh… Another misconception is that once an account is deleted then it’s gone for ever, not always so as it is still there to be found if you know how to lookout ,so I am told, it’s a mine field to navigate the internet these days, and that’s without going into the, Darkweb…

Aus3009. Really impressed with your knowledge of transportation over the internet. It is not my field of in depth knowledge, but horses for courses. So as you appear to have a vast wealth of understanding on this topic, would you be so kind as to advise this community where your knowledge base originated and how long you have held your qualifications, or real world involvement in the telecommunications industry. Many thanks in advance…

Quite correct the core network will require periodic upgrades, at a cost to the network owner, but that has always been the case. The connectivity required to that core, by data centres, cloud servers, will be paid for by the centre’s customers. That income will, doses now, cover the cost of core infrastructure upgrades and provide profit. The core will require far less upgrades than the networks customers will . It will be customers that at the end of the day that will have ongoing expense as demand for there services increases. Network owners have and will going forward have planed what their core will need to deliver and be steps ahead of the data transport needs.

Agree Fleccy, just used 50g as an example to get people thinking about how much data can be transported on just one fibre let alone say 96 in one cable…

“ Two different examples where the carrier needs to get into the revenue game & need to make sure heavy users pay towards the network capacity needed to carry them.

Completion (historically) makes both these very difficult because if BT won’t, where they can, someone else will. Look at Three and their unlimited sim deals. Just forces prices down.!! Prices forced down, hurt the biggest network player, because their capacity costs more to maintain / upgrade …. ”

It matters not for network providers what others develop to be transported over the networks, it all adds revenue to the network owner. BT has its expertise in providing a network, other’s expertise is in developing products to utilise that network. BT do not needed to spend money reinventing the wheel, when there are hundreds of companies doing that, competing with each other for the next new thing we all want to send over a network. Using DWDM existing technology we can send 24 separate links over a single fibre at high data rates, up to at least 50 g per service. So the first lets say 10 customers using that one fibre covers the cost of the fibre and the terminal equipment, the other 14 provide pure profit over that one fibre. Why spend on anything but the network when it can generate this level of profit income. This will only increase with time as other people develop, at vast expense, things to be transported over the network. BT has lost vast amounts of money in the past chasing things that are not its primary business, recent example, BT sport. Enough said…

Agree. Garfield removed the £10 per head payment from the company towards a group get together at Christmas. Another moral boost for her staff and gratitude for there efforts each year…

Well said F. Call them out and off they scuttle back in there dark space…

It’s not just the transport of data over BTs network. It’s knowledge of the physical network, it’s routes, points of termination, diversity and separation of closed data networks, monitoring of network breaches, staff that have the relevant security clearance for government, military, emergency services sites and locations. Knowledge of how closed data networks route and interconnect or not with external networks. There are al lot of places that do not exist, unless you have the relevant clearance to know otherwise. These are some of the things that would make it very difficult to just take over BT.

Yes folks, Eeyore is back in his gloomy place…

I will be putting him forward for the next series of, The Apprentice. Not sure if that will be as a candidate, or to replace Sir Alan. So it could be, Sir Aus.

Then again…

Agree with much of what Fleccy has mentioned. For the vast majority of cell sites the Backhaul connection into any core network, is now and will in the future, be supplied by BT. There are and will be a percentage of sites that the final connection is supplied another party, but not that many, especially outside of large urban areas. EE may have appeared to have lost a percentage of the market now, but things can change with the flow of customers constantly changing. Nevertheless BT will still be getting a very good income for that final Backhaul connection no matter who owns the mobile network. Win Win for BT. If more customers move to Vod/3 then they will likely need to upgrade there final connection, in most cases supplied by BT, therefor new work on top of there existing income from the existing networks…

Just seen this.

https://uk.yahoo.com/style/bt-39bn-pension-fund-cuts-180434484.html

It’s good to see you can grasp, now, the basics. I am sure that given time you will see things a bit more clearly, I have a Specsavers voucher, I will happily donate to you. Yes my attention span is short, especially concerning your rambling sometimes, I have many better things to occupy my life. POETS day tomorrow, so I will wish you a good weekend…

Mandyslovechild

“ the latest being copper retrieval, which won't even be complete until the mid 30s. The mind boggles. They must take us all for idiots. What we need is a bid. And soon.”

Daddy clearly did not educated you very well. Removing the cables, be that in the ground or in buildings, is not a case of just ripping it out, quick as can. It requires a degree of common sense

So that answers that question. Go find a quiet place and contemplate it for, say, a year, then come back to us, having spent your time well…

Same old, same old. VM/02 taking over TT, being merged with Sky and Comcast, have a bigger network reach for wholesale, Drahi now out of the picture, but just increased his holding, Amazon the new disrupter, just like VM/02 were the disrupter to the incumbent, John Malone the man who is going to disrupt the whole telecoms market, etc, etc, etc…

None of which has happened in the last couple of years despite us all being told it will happen again and again. How about something positive about BT for a change as a claimed shareholder ,eh …

Looks like the, VM/02 press office, has joined forces with the, Amazon, press office…

Unfortunately our current government has many, many, bigger things to sort out, not least their consistent ability to keep getting it wrong. You would think after 13 years the cream would have risen to the top by now…

Ummm. Is the price being forced down so MMS can make a killing on tomorrow’s, hopeful, rise ?

Yup thumbs up. VM/02 about to take over TalkTalk, Sky, Trooli, oh and 1g for £9.99 a month…

Yup. Same as all the others, has been for a while now.

So. What activity will get you 3 months at his majesty’s pleasure then…