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Your naivety is aptly demonstrated by using the “partner” companies own business description to rate their quality. You are definitely out of order in regard to extrader, who in my opinion posts well researched and accurate information. Your hero meanwhile issues mainly smoke and mirror RNSs, some of which seem to be merely ramptastic spoofs (“option” RNS) to get the faithful to top-up, whilst the loan boys and DW get to unload into the rise. Others seem not tell the whole story (suspension), and release the bad news with a company spin to hopefully mitigate the effect.
The company is now forced to urgently produce an interim report with actual figures, and I imagine the unexpected shock might cause a touch of panic round at SYME HQ. I would guess that the loan boys still have a couple of billion to dispose of, so finding something to keep all the balls in the air must now be an urgent priority.
It will be fascinating to see what they come up with.
Of course I may be totally wrong in my view of this company, but with so many red flags flying I do not think so.
Extrader, it appears you have gained yet another follower.
Modestguy states that every poster on here who rates you as “a sleazy ratbag” (or equivalent I guess) has only half a brain.
I for one can only concur with that opinion.
I for one post to give (hopefully) good information to help others, certainly not to cause financial loss. Quite the reverse in fact, as I hate the idea of city spivs cleaning up at the expense of poorly advised amateur investors. From what I have read on this board, those I mentioned who posted negative information, acted with the same intentions - to inform, not to cause loss.
In any event, the actual shorts who post on here are so few, and with such small positions as to be unable to cause any difference to the SP.
How can any investor make a rational decision if presented only with only information gleaned from Company releases and wildly bullish posts, and denied the benefit of an alternative point of view, especially if it contains information which the Company would rather suppress? At least with the latter you can then weigh up the pros and cons to make a sensible investment decision.
may have been right when he stated in a recent post that “It might be all over soon”. I am minded to recall that good news is released promptly, bad news is held back or published at times when hopefully no-one is watching. Thus investors hoping for reassurance in the long overdue accounts may be in for a disappointment.
The rumble of approaching elephants is getting louder.
Only OSTRICHES will “Stay Tuned”
More positive research needed?
I would liken most of the “research” posted on this board to that of a boxer intently studying his opponent’s footwork, whilst being repeatedly thumped on the nose.
I would suggest that some of you might be better placed if you base your investment decisions on what the Company and its officers actually do, rather than what they say, or write in RNSs.
To my mind, apart from junior gold explorers, OPTI presents one of the best opportunities for a multi-bagger over the next couple of years.
Although end-user sales may have been held back by COVID, the fact that overweight and diabetic people are more likely to succumb to this disease must raise awareness, especially in the US, that losing the excess pounds might prove a lifesaver.
As the products have been proven to work, and have thus resulted in signed contracts with partners worldwide, I would expect that it is only a matter time before profitability explodes, especially bearing in mind the quality and financial strength of those partner organisations.
Building a small local business is difficult and can often take years to develop. OPTI is building a truly international business, and is recruiting the right personnel to ensure that the upscaling of operations proceeds smoothly. Therefore shareholders should welcome the news that high calibre people are seeing OPTI as a good career move.
Was it an option?
Was it a bet?
Or was it just a spoof to ramp the SP and allow the loan boys (and DW) to unload?
It would appear that my opinion, posted last month but promptly deleted (I wonder why?), might have been spot on.
(Posted on here)
MMs dropping price to get more stock
IIs wanting lower price to load up
MM tree shakes
Now we get “it’s all the fault of trolls, bashers, derampers etc”
A poster on here claims EUA and GGP are “rising to the moon” because their chat has no “trolls”.
Has the poor fellow considered that their SPs may be rising because they are good companies, and that “trolls” are absent because there is nothing to criticise?
Compare the content of the latest RNS with the one dated 28th September 2020.
Can anyone explain in simple English what these sections mean –
· design of a new fast-track procedure to accelerate the due diligence process of Client Companies, which may increase the number of corporates monetised in the first transaction,
The objective of this crucial period of work by all Parties is to deliver the first transaction and create an entirely new Inventory Monetisation asset class that reflects best practice principles established in the securitisation market. It will therefore be a repeatable and scalable investment product for subsequent rounds of securitisation.
Or does it simply mean that the company has landed on “Chance” and pulled “Go back to the Old Kent Road”?
Read the RNS on here, and confirm on the LSE.
There is no further price to pay. OG will be entitled to receive 630M shares from the counterparty if the specified condition is met.
The real question should be - "Who is the counterparty?". The answer might surprise.
I am neither a bull nor a bear of this company. However I do feel obliged to comment on what I feel might be useful to investors, both current and prospective, even though I know that there is a good chance my post will be deleted.
Good, well run companies have no need to fear adverse comments on bulletin boards. Good companies will ignore short term criticism and prove detractors wrong by producing solid results and issuing factual and timely RNSs. Many companies actually follow comment on the boards to gauge shareholders reaction to their performance. Bad companies employ PR personnel to post favourable comment, and in the worst cases to abuse negative posters and even to get critical posts removed should the content be too close to the truth.
Likewise, investors in good companies should have no fear of the odd adverse comment. My observations on this board would indicate that bull posters outnumber the bears by at least 20/1, so why the rabid reaction to any negative post?
Weight of numbers not enough to outweigh your fear of negativity?
Spotify
Certainly not - More red flags than China.
However, I do find the comments here of great interest, and a real case study in small investor mentality (that is not to criticise by the way, I am too a small investor).
I just like to comment when I have something useful to contribute, either for or against.
Congratulations and thanks to those who posted the Seeking Alpha link today. It should be required reading for all those who use these boards for investment advice.
After reading the links to "guerillainvesting" I wondered where Levi had got his template, as it seemed to me to be a guide to rampers that had been twisted to replace "rampers" with "bashers", plus minor text changes to suit the new narrative.
I know I said I would not be posting further on here, but I could not resist this.
Well done both.
An ostrich grazing the savannah spots a herd of elephants stampeding towards him.
He buries his head in the sand
Lo and behold - no elephants
The thundering herd passes by
Lo and behold – no ostrich
The moral of the tale – They who choose to abuse, no platform, or even report those with opinions which differ from their own agenda may well pay for their stupidity in the end (unless of course they are working for AZ).
I have no idea whether this company will succeed, or if the wildest dreams (and finances) of some of those on here will be shattered, but I will not be investing in it. The SP action after Monday’s “fantastic RNS” is telling me all I need to know. Last week the buzz on here forecast a monumental RNS was due, after which the SP would shoot to the moon. It duly arrived on Monday, and after a very brief upward spike, has resumed the downward tack. The ridiculous option RNS today, probably issued to ramp the SP (successfully), only confirms my view that this share is one to avoid.
Any bets on whether it will close tomorrow below last Fridays close? If it does I expect further RNSs early next week which might initially cause some excitement, but will not last if placed shares are unloaded. Amateur investors - be careful out there.
Anyhow, this will be my last post on this board, which will please the rampers. Poster Applegarth put it most succinctly with his Monday post –
"None were so blind as those that will not see"
GLA
I read all these posts with complex calculations showing a huge price to be paid by Orchestra if they exercise the option.
The RNS does not specify a price to be paid, merely the condition under which the option may be exercised. Therefore the purchase price must be assumed to be NIL.