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Ron
Unskilled???? So why do they have a training section
Is it not a 1 hour course.
Left foot right foot….left foot right foot…15 mins
15 min break
Breath in,breath out…breath in breath out….5 mins
15 min refresher in cash you forgot
Continue through shift
Clock in,clock out,home late.
There’s many more new faces to come…
Opinion
RE: Newdealz. RE: Just watched Simon Thompson's Sky News interview.Today 21:21
@ Maximas1. 19.40 post
"""""There’s a small company near me,100 people or so,there in the ****…they have just made 20 redundant and picked exactly who they wanted to go…there responce to complaints was…drum roll….""""
Errrrrr? 100 employees? Do you think 100 employees would have the similar bargaining power as 100,000 employees?
You really are as TAF!!!
And regarding tribunals. Non-payment of holiday pay overtime. I had a date to go to Croydon. The first in the country. It took a little over 2 months to get this date. Guess what happened? It was called off 3 days before the hearing. 3 months later everyone is getting paid holiday pay overtime. I was right, i won. Backed up of course by tens of thousands of employees who do overtime for RM.
Your pathetic arguments do not stand up to scrutiny. I'm so glad you weren't my rep. And i pity the staff that you represented. Helen Keller would have done a better job.
When..2 years ago lol…another load of crap coming from mr bla,bla bla.
Try putting one in now for unfair dismissal….you will be waiting longer than a first class letter to drop on the mat
Crap rep,full of the usual bull
Catch you sat when you’ve dried out after tomorrow
Bla,bla,bla
According to the Government website.....
"If you take part in industrial action that breaks the regulations and you’re dismissed, you can’t usually claim unfair dismissal if all employees taking part are dismissed as well."
I would imagine that if only 10,000 were dismissed then I would imagine that a class action would be brought.
That’s why compulsory redundancies were invented
Ohh..I have an idea..let’s strike and open ourselves up to that many terms and condition changes it will make my head spin.
So much so I don’t think the company will sack me..but may make me redundant when they want.
Catch you all sat when you’ve all dried out
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""""""I read it,did you read mine properly…who needs to sack anyone…compulsory redundancies are just as effective.""""
AFTER 12 WEEKS YOU CAN BE DISMISSED.
I've put it in "BIG LETTERS" so that you can see the relevance. DISMISSED!!!!! SACKED!!!!!
You do understand the difference between big and little letters, don't you?
You really have no clue as to what you are talking about.
It really is quite embarrassing.
Your post recommended again, but only for your belief in its accuracy.
The only postie who thinks there will be no compulsory redundancies
Brush up on those rep skills
Wet tomorrow boys,take a brolly
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Iam surprised no one on here that works for Royal Mail,inc our resident reps have not mentioned anything about the dirty rules of union busting.
There’s a number of tasks,say 1-10….
Royal Mail have taken advice on union busting,it’s very easy to spot.
I would say there on number 6 at the moment…and from looking from the outside in…this is looking like a hammering.
Hold onto your hats…this could be about to get tasty…unfortunately it’s always the member that gets the short straw
It’s like picking cherries.
Low lying fruit first
It’s Everyman for themselves
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Did you actually read my response to Scamp?
It was in reference to the mass sackings that he referred to. NOT to compulsory redundancies.
I read it,did you read mine properly…who needs to sack anyone…compulsory redundancies are just as effective.
When they ask you to jump,you say how high
When they ask me to stay late,you say how long
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I believe it is now. If it is from when ACAS were involved, that pushes the date back to next year.
They would have to fire every single striking postie. They cannot pick and choose their victims.
Your in cuckoo land.
There’s a small company near me,100 people or so,there in the ****…they have just made 20 redundant and picked exactly who they wanted to go…there responce to complaints was…drum roll….
We will deal with any arising matters 3 years down the line.
If a small piddly company will do this…a bloody huge one will not give a ****.
No one follows rules in a war,tribunals….take years now…stress,pressure,court and no guarantee even if you think you are right you will win…it’s a lottery.
Royal Mail have targeted already
Reps
The sick
Today telephone calls to those on the sick instructing them to come in for one to ones.
Knock at there doors to deliver letters in person.
Baton down the hatches
Low lying fruit identified already
Bla,bla,bla
I believe this is accurate.
What you don't post though, is that each and every striker has to be treated the same.
Bla,bla,bla
So, despite the BS written on this board, cherry-picking the "right" ones for the bullet, it will have to be all or none.
You obviously do not fall into the category of one of the workers that may be sacked.
I'm sure that this period is now.
As the union was to hasty,or plain TAF….I would say they don’t have to sack anyone and make any problems for themselves.
If they so choose they can target anyone they wish with compulsory redundantly
They will have a lost,all depends on how vindictive they want to be.
They can/will just do as they please and deal with any small discrepancies later if there are any.
Clock in,clock out,home late.
Compulsory redundancies coming
When they say jump,you say how high
Bla,bla,bla.
It would not now surprise me one bit if Royal Mail play dirty,but by the rules,they hold all the aces…all the dirty laundry is out there for the markets to see,share price seems stable…they will not be bothered how the job losses are achieved,and if that pushes people back to work and break strikes then its a bonus for them.
I expect now the company to follow through with all there threats if the union do not see sense
Panic stations panic stations
Pickets are being crossed
Newdealz
Today I woke up with a little duck in the back of my mind saying I hope only a small bone was thrown,personally I thought it was medium sized,how happy am I that the bone catcher threw it straight away,now hopefully Royal Mail will pull the offer and implement what they want faster and harder,saving millions longer term
Lifeboats lifeboat where are you
Everyman for himself
Compulsory redundancy around the corner
Now sit back and watch the infighting,it’s Everyman for himself now,you only have to look at all the worker forums,thousands now about to cross the picket lines..
It’s over now for the cwu…
I expect the company now just to implement everything,and quicker than if there would have been an agreement…
Run out of canoes
Abandon ship,abandon ship
Every man for themselves
DAVES BANGING PLAN
1..coffee machines to be installed at all customer collection point..priced at ÂŁ2 a pop..customer cannot be served until purchase..proceeds to be split between strike fund and pay rise fund
2..all post to be dropped off at each street at house number 1…all residents to collect there post from there.
3..each postie to be given new blue tooth headphones,new software installed..so instead of…left foot…………right foot……it will be left,right,left,right,speeded up 20% for more productivity.
4…every post person to only take a max of two weeks sick a year,the other 6 weeks can be used to run at half pace with no repercussions.
5…strike action only to be taken in exceptional circumstances..ie…being told to work faster or stop chatting on deliveries.
6…rate of pay to be increased by 15% per year until we are double are nearest competitor,then scaled back to 10% until we all have a new car.
7…compulsory redundancies to be scaled back to 1 person per year unless it’s a leap year,then amended to 2
8…shareholders should get no dividends what so ever,instead monies should be handed over to the cwu to distribute as they see fit.
9…dave ward to be put forward for a knighthood for services to screwing the company.
10…all reps to be renamed….bla,bla,….so they can all sound like sheep.
Clock in clock out late home
Redundancies coming
Bla,bla,bla
I stalker spy
A couple of questions that you may be able to answer for me.
1 - How many compulsory redundancies have there been?
2 - Have my t's and c's changed?
3 - Would you agree that the enforcement of a 2% pay rise by executive action was breaking the long standing legal agreements between RM and the CWU. Executive action that was taken BEFORE ANY INDUSTRIAL ACTION.
Some simple questions. I expect nothing more than a load of drivel in response. Culminating in ducks, canoes etc.
Please prove me wrong though.
Not heard much from you for a few days as the share price (the main thing you seem to be interested in for us share holders)has gone up,
Everything you said would not hapen has either happened,or is in the process of happening,
Instead of chatting your usual crap,how about start to chat to your members,telling them the union has led them up a path of self destruction.
Brought all this on them selves.
That’s a lot will be unemployed when they didn’t have to.
Your an embarrassment to the union,but you keep banging that drum,oh,sorry,you won’t shortly,as all you ever go on about is …
In my depot…lol…I won’t be working later than I should,bla,bla,bla,it will never happen..lol…share price will be £1-50 so you can average down,bla bla,bla..bet he’s bought in at £3.70,bla,bla,bla.
In fact I won’t refer to you as I stalker spy any more…it will be
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The service won’t run without me…bla bla bla,so….once it comes in everywhere please let us no when you leave…I will pop you a card…not a sorry your leaving card…
But …I told you so card…
Clock in,clock out late home.
Redundancies coming
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So,freedom of speech is not allowed on the cwu Facebook page,my post has been taken down several times,a plain to the point post asking a simple question.
Can mr dave ward please explain to me the logic in having a show of hands in a no confidence vote in royal mails CEO,when in fact in might be more beneficial to have a show of hands in dave ward,due to repeated **** ups, the biggest going on strike in the first place breaking the long standing legal agreement,thus enabling Simon Thompson and the board to rip up your terms and conditions,make compulsory redundancies and make you look a total fool.
No messing there then,if I was a gambling man I would say someone in the background has got involved.
Compulsory redundancy nailed on
Terms and conditions in tatters
No extra payments
The list coming will be a long one.
And all of the above will be enforced,as I said months ago…no one’s laughing now are they.
Save some money,keep those subs for yourself,you’ve been hung out to dry…
DAVE SAYS …..STRIKKKKEEEEEE
CWU Postal Executive formally rejects Royal Mail Group surrender document
The Postal Executive met today and unanimously rejected Royal Mail Group’s latest proposals and at the same time endorsed a CWU counter proposal, which also includes an alternative business strategy to secure the future of both our members jobs and the company.
The proposal Royal Mail Group sent to us yesterday were not in line with the discussions we have been having and were a deliberate move to harden their position following their unilateral preference exercise. The CWU counter proposal will be sent to Royal Mail Group tomorrow and will be shared with our representatives and members.
Unlike Royal Mail Group, who presented their proposal as a take it or leave it option, the CWU remain committed to reaching an agreement and will make clear to the company that we are willing to engage further in serious negotiations on all aspects of pay and change.
We will also use National Gate Meeting Day to ask CWU members, by a show of hands to support the rejection of the Royal Mail Group position and endorse the unions paper.
The documents sent by Royal Mail Group yesterday are bound by ACAS confidentiality rules so we will not share it today, but we will be doing so as soon as we are able to because as a union we believe in complete transparency. We also know when you see the document it will make support for strike action stronger than ever.
A summary of the rejected proposal and its impact on your futures is below. We need this everywhere and we need every CWU member to realise that backing the forthcoming strike action is not only the right thing to do but it is the only thing to do.
We will of course use every possible moment ahead of Thursday to reach agreement, but we need every branch, representative and member to create a huge wave of pressure from the ground up. Every single one of us must become the union.
Dave Ward General Secretary
Andy Furey Acting Deputy General Secretary (Postal)
SUMMARY OF ROYAL MAIL GROUP SURRENDER DOCUMENT
• It is clear they want to turn the Royal Mail Group into a gig economy style parcel courier, resourced over time through a self-employed model.
• Royal Mail Group have refused to put in place any commitments whatsoever on job security and we believe they will now move ahead with compulsory redundancies.
• The pay offer remains inadequate and the 3.5% is not backdated.
• Pay for Parcelforce – Nil.
• Pay for Fleet – 3% - not backdated, alongside a demand to outsource Fleet work, leading to compulsory redundancies.
• Royal Mail Group is demanding the CWU withdraws support for members who have submitted employment tribunals for unlawful pay deductions during recent periods of strike action.
• Royal Mail Group is demanding that local representatives and members must fully accept their revision proposals without any opportunity for these to be negotiated at local level.
• Royal Mail Gr
Gets funnier doesn’t it…
Royal Mail now just go though there company plan at lightening speed.
Posties lose money
Lose jobs
Posties can bleat all they want about the job not being done…there’s no staff in my office,compulsory redundancies not going to happen.
It a given…Royal Mail have decided to rid itself of the union,start again and build a leaner machine…from the ground up..it will take time,but it will survive… it will come back stronger…it’s better grasping that nettle now rather than every other year going through this madness..
Come the 24th dec if the strikes go ahead until then……..then the union is finished,all those job loses,changes lost money…
Workers will be crossing pickets….
Cwu and it’s reps…hold your heads in shame
Why would it be aimed at you…iam laughing at the union…would love to be a fly on the wall when the bone catcher reads the offer…he will be shouting one word for an hour,can you guess what it will be,,,
STRIKKKKKKKKKEEEEEEE