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15LIVES

Writing on the go (new mobile technology, can you comprehend? :)

KOH

Myo

I truly hope you can objectively do the justice with the same level of fierceness to whoever agreed for JPM to act as purchaser for the initial bonds on a "best effort basis" in April... :)

Wording makes a huge difference, doesn't it?

KOH

GK

Nice try, now try including dilution.

KOH

The fact that you are still willingly invested here having cited such 'promises' tells that.
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No it doesn't 15LIVES. One can invest based on research and it doesn't stop him from 'citing' and criticising if one wishes. Freedom of expression and opinion.

Really last one now
KOH

Ok, enough for today. Really have to go now.

Regards Ladies & Gents
KOH

15LIVES

I don't know what's more scary: your last post or the fact you got six ticks for it straight away!
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Or maybe you, like Scotman, just struggle to keep up with the arguments and use tactical deception in order to spread a deliberate disinformation to create some confusion on the board?

Hmm? :)

KOH

And you've based your investment here on that notion?
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I never said that. I said that what has been communicated to the public by the company over the years never materialized.
Your perception and degree of objective judgement you apply to it is your personal choice.

KOH

Myo,

A deliberate use of words suggesting a high degree of positive future outcome like aim, plan, intend etc can be considered as a form of 'promise' and has a material impact on future investment decisions. They have never 'contractually guaranteed' the result - true, but they have indicated the high degree of possibility on many occasions and in various documents, presentations, media etc. and all has been needed over the years is a greater degree of honesty with shareholders IMO.
Under-delivery (funding)? In my opinion yes. At least to date. 10bln shares in issue, shareholders value destroyed and deal not even completed yet. No further comments, current SP speak for itself.

Don't pick apart every word I say mate, that's not the point.

All right, out for good now.
KOH

What a witch-hunt :)

All the best to you all, let's keep our fingers crossed for Chris in this testing times.

KOH

sheps8

I can't help you, I am sorry.
I don't "dis" my own investment, I openly criticise factors that may have a negative impact on my investment.
It's good to allow a contrarian opinion to your limited unidirectional world from time to time, it broadens the mind.

Regards
KOH

Take responsibility for your own actions, and put on a different record.
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Oh I definitely do, I take full responsibility every time I press 'buy' or 'sell' button. I have no issue with that. And I hope Chris takes full responsibility for the delivery of ST2 , current situation and failure to maintain shareholder value to date too. And that his actions will receive a just and objective reconciliation on this board one day.

For now, let's just hope that he knows what he's doing. After all we are all in the same boat.
Am I personally 100% confident that he will deliver in September after what we've seen to date? Hell no.

Enough about Chris today. Sunday funday.

Regards
KOH

sheps8

It was a quote, hence the line below. Doesn't take a genius to notice.
Relax and have a walk or something, you need some oxygen.

KOH

Maximus10

I wonder why you suddenly so focused on "exposure" and completely disregarded the essence of my post in your reply. You don't have to be overexposed to to be down 60-70% like many here my friend and that's not what we've been discussing here.

A clue: false promises, under-delivery, failure to maintain shareholders value and responsibility that comes with it.

Hope it helps.
KOH

The signs are there to be read.
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Said fortune teller.

:)

KOH

If you thought this was going to go from fledgling explorer to fully producing world class fertiliser company without massive dilution then you really didn’t do your homework.
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And you did? Or any of you? Why didn't you wait with your investment until now if it was soooo obvious that the massive dilution was coming? Why would anybody invest years ago?

Exactly. Easy to be wise after the event.

KOH

Or maybe you just struggle to keep up with the arguments and use tactical deception in order to spread a deliberate disinformation to create some confusion on the board?

:)

KOH

15LIVES

You can say whatever you want but the reality is that when it comes to Fraser's performance to date three things became apparent:

a) false promises
b) under-delivery (funding)
c) failure to maintain shareholders value

You, on the other hand, can blame everything else in the world for that except Fraser - that's your subjective choice.
I would say - we are in Aug 2019, SP closed at 9.16 on Friday and we are still shaking with fear over the future. Time to wake up.

KOH

If I completely lost confidence in CF and the BoD I’d sell up and move on to something else.
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I wish it was all that simple mate. Many people have been trapped watching their holding melt over the last months, many long term holders show losses of +70% (first caused by disastrous dilution then bonds suspension). Why are we even here still fearing of what the uncertain future will bring after all those losses we've already incurred, one could ask?
False promises and under-delivery is the answer my friend. And who takes responsibility for that? Guess who - an expert in his field charged with increasing shareholder value and awarded with 123m shares and the highest salary in the company...

With great position comes great responsibility, they say.

KOH

Scotman, the man heading this up is the ‘financial guru’ charged with increasing shareholder value by raising the finance to build this mine, both major fundraisers to date have been disasterous for shareholder value.

Read back through RNS releases, yearly reports and AGM presentations to see the level of spin over the years, All that has been needed over the years is a greater degree of honesty with shareholders and I keep returning to the 2016 DFS and AGM ‘J Curve’ comments as the worst example.

Perhaps you might be better occupied in making paper planes than spending an inordinate amount of time on here attempting to shout down critical opinion especially in the light of the current SP.
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Again, thank you.

KOH

The fundraising side of the project appears to have been poorly handled all the way through but what really grates is the spin and false promises of value over the years that J Curve has alluded to associated with the fundraising - Stage two ‘intended’ to be all debt - senior secured debt at reasonable rates.
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Thank you.

KOH