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Seems ive be misinformed again then ! ok last question then if ya dont mind, if you can buy one min from day before ex div date,could you sell at 8.01 on the 26th and still be paid or is it close of business on 26th ? ie 8.01 am on 27th as earliest sell date and still be paid ? after this im done promise lol

cool thanx for the info,but am i correct in my view that you need to allow a couple of days to ensure your on the register of investors so in effect last buying safe day is 2 days before ex div date ? or have i been misinformed there as well ? :)

Good post nige_w As for ex div date site called dividend max seemsto be on the ball, they have 26/10/17 as ex div date which is a little strange as because of the two day clearence situation wednesday is usually used as ex div to allow clearence before friday close ?? either way i would want to be in on the tuesday 24/10 to be certain if i was a last minute divi hunter, but by then these will be 6.40 plus imo!.As it is im in and comfortable with the future here.My averaging down was a risk i was aware of but greed got the better of me when they reached 610 plus and i pushed my average up so figured id take the risk and get it back down again.currently 5.95 in my isa and 5.98 in my sipp so this time risk worked out.Trouble is lately fundamentals count for nought once snowball gets up speed! provident,dixons etc seems like the MM and shorters have the upper hand atm but we will see. gl

got my average down from 6.06 to 5.95 and now back to the holding i was comfortable with a week ago with a little liquidity should Carney decide to chuck another spanner in the works for no apparent reason. gla

I concur fwiw, however this will continue to bounce around until it gets over 5.90 too many timid traders down at these levels,twitchy bum stop losses :)

200 k sell with barely a blip !! hopefully a good sign of a return to normal realistic levels ???

Why not try holding for a few hours rather than trying to get the perfect trade price without seeing your screen go red even for a second and then, rather than lose money in trade fees and duty you might actualy see a rise AND a large divdend in thirty days !!! I know its a left field idea but hey live a little lmao

The BoE Playing chicken with the financial markets is the reason for yesterdays drop,that and the markets really twitchy about that Korean dim sum lookalike moron. Personal debt,car finance,profligacy writ large are becoming an issue and the BoE Is making people and markets aware that .25% cant last forever. As with many falls yesterday was way over done and will hopefully correct itself as we approach the 5/6% dividend date,Hey seems lately that doing the opposite of what i do is a good strategy lol sold lloyds to buy this with a view to buying lloyds once this had gone ex div :( not my best call bu hey ho its only money.

yeah i averaged down a little @ 588.375 ?? random price but hey ho but all my dry powder spent now so the beggar better get back into the 90'S sharpish or ive got a boring 6 week wait for the divi :(

rate rise in november ?? wth? the whole market jittery as hell at the moment once ive got my 6% a share it might be time to look for something less volatile than the ftse, maybe ill try investing in a few dot coms or biomedical research ??? LOL

And bounces off 598.5 again >>> anyone with some fancy software see if theres an overhang ??

That has caused a small sell off on the ftse how is it that firms that opperate almost exclusively in gbp are also falling ?? if you are uk based the pounds rise is benificial especially if you import materials ??? Excuse to retrace i reckon

which has happened to a couple of builders lately i seem to remember, powered through divi day with barely a blip. Maybe edge ya bets take profit but leave half in to collect divi and have the cash on hand to take advantage of any drop and average down?? Doh ! ive just shared my master plan.

At 5.91 bet they bougfht them this afternoon for 5.95 ???? i just dont get it, no-one likes to lose money but especially on small trades thats £25 down the can plus the 4p a share !!! much better to ( well wait for divi) but failing that if your going to lose £25 in fees and duty on a 250/300 trade why not set the stop loss at 8/9/10% ??? coz you will lose that anyway. Am i missing something ???

Maybe everyone thinks they will be clever and set their sell order at just bellow 6 :) " that'll fool em " shame everyone had same dumb idea :) seems daft time to sell as it goes 42 ish days till 34p and busy completion months just before xmas lull as well, could be news before ex div date could just slowly climb to 640 which is where im hopin it will be in a month gla

thats twice its bounced off 598.5 quite hard ! anyone any idea why ?

a little sanity has returned! opportunist tree shaking looks like, keep telling folks to expans stop losses a little or the MM will rob ya sooner or later!!

agreed some b/s survey showing london prices slowing down seems to have caused over reaction in all housing shares ?? or maybe its just a tree shake ? lets hope so

Makes sense re farming,not good governmental policy to allow vital food production to be at the mercy of market forces and weather totally! I consider myself a good citizen,ie i accept the law and regs are what they are,my only beef is in a world where there are multiple mechanisms for gambling that a stock will fall,spread betting cfd etc the only benifit to shorting is its ability to actually compound or even instigate a drop ! Again i accept its legal,but if it is to remain then "trading" should cover lending and be taxed!! One because we have a deficit, and two because share ownership is supposed to be a level playing field,but the lender gets a fee and the lendee gets a position and the exchequer gets nothing until the shares are sold/bought back, should the financial climate change or should a companies outlook change the sell and buy may not take place.Trades are subject to stamp duty, all that need change is the definition of "trade" and the playing field becomes level again.imho. As for me i am looking for an 8% to 10% upside from now till div date and i may sell just prior and buy back on divi fall day, but we will see.

The difference is shorting dumps large quantities of shares in conjuction ( if proven this is ilegal but goes on ) with others at a specified time.Supply and demand dictates excess shares price fall, shortage price rise, but if you dump a million shares on ex div day for eg you can cause a snowball effect greater than the sum of the parts because of stop auto sells! Buying and selling is taxed borrowing is not but should be. Simply put why is the lender and borrower allowed to "trade" without duty ?? because until sold and bought back the shares have not been taxed but have changed hands ?? look here to see how shorters become brokers and MM to avoid legislations and tax. http://www.investopedia.com/articles/optioninvestor/09/naked-short-selling.asp