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Hi OSG little concerned with all the numbers you are giving, great fun working out but highly improbable that these figures will be anywhere near for example the price of the crop will change both up and down, you have to allow for some loss of crop, or extra crop, what will the tax rate be and logistical costs in getting it to the buyer, is that buyer wholesaler , retailer or end user which will determine how much they pay for the crop. So matchbox sums are great for fun but bear little semblance to the actual end sales revenue or profit. I am not being a dampener just realistic. I think there is enormous potential, I do not however think it has finished falling, the shorters are taking this baby down as far as they can.... that is not JJAL and ESSKI etal. as they have little to no real influence on the price (as much as we would love to blame them for it)... the market makers and companies such as PLUS500 that do the real damage.
In JJAL and ESSKI etal. favour they are 100% correct that the board should be making statements to eleviate the fall and let everyone know what is going on. This part of the reason for the fall and no one can really disagree with this, even the board. As for the board discussing what is said on the boards.... do they really care or event waste their time reading the boards, to busy running a company one would hope!... such crap is shared here sometimes that if they had they would have stopped a long time ago. anyway thought I would just chuck this in. I am not saying waste of time doing the figure work but just remember they are matchbox sums and not company led figures. As for the company being bough.... highly unlikely, to many strong companies out there with strong balance sheets but lower share prices. hope I was down the middle enough!
Hi Gary, Esski,.... love the bit about desperate! sold my shares a while ago at a much higher price than they are today.... so no desperation over here, but thanks for the concern. share price fell another 10 and was going to buy, wish i had almost back to 0.
Actually i am goading you a bit because before i buy i want to see some tangible evidence from the negatives, at last I got some from Gallini, which made interesting reading. rest is just anti..... BOD crap also the fact that the company maybe looking for more money, which I remember before when the price fell to 8s some one who mentioned this was correct.
Re the CBD, Canaboid it is also use for medical purposes so the uses are far reaching. in the last 6 weeks I have been in Toronto, New York City, Buffalo NY and and London UK and I noticed (with great surprise in the UK) that vaping is massive.
It all comes down to how far down the road production is, 50 plants or 500 for that matter, will not support a large yield but if the plans are for it grow then there is potential...... i actually neither back the positives nor the negatives, i am just trying to get info...
So tell me our negative friends. What price are you trying to force this company down to? 6p 5p, I guess 4p would be good that way the value of the company is well below its actual earnings todate. Obviously who on earth on this planet is going to buy this crop. like duhhh! okay so Canada has totally legalised it and people are smoking it on every corner and every other store is a vapour store.... oh and not to mention that supply is so far below the level of demand it is really scary and cnbs companies are flying. But hey not important! USA and UK vapour stores are appearing all over and again vapour users are everywhere and again demand is far higher than supply..... God! HNR are so stupid following this route, how on earth do they expect to make any money.... christsake 5 years ago they made a great loss so what is different.... nothing!!! Thank God for JJAL, ESSKI and their multiple accounts to warn us all of the doom and despair that is approaching especially after finding Nitogen rich soil that has shown to expand the crops total idiots the board of HNR give it up now and every one sell their shares no one will by cnbs, ........ ummmmmmm! what do you think JJAL and ESSKI?
What is the truth JJAL? Give us a truth. The share price is falling, so what is happening, explain very clearly for us dumbasses what the truth is. The share is manipulated by you guys. What has actually happened t5o cause the share price to fall. Really! JJAL you are the voice of wisdom here with superior knowledge as you claim. tell us all including the Board what is causing the price to fall. without bringing up the past. based purely on the business model and information handed out by the company! or proven facts you have gained with their souces???? I do not hold shares now sold, but give me a good reason NOT to buy back at these levels.??? Sorry I can not see it!
JB there still a report tomorrow?
I do not remember them saying that it would cover all their costs. the costs of the new business are unknown and the fact it is covering a substantial portion means when they start selling from this business it will cover al costs and make a good profit!!! This is extremely positive where one part of the business is supplementing the rest of the businesses while it gets started with a guaranteed income and no costs. Do you not think!!
Actually, JJAL the share price has ranged from 0.085 to 0.35
It has spent a lot of time at around 0.13 ish. Amazingly enough as soon as the price rises you and your buddies and your many accounts come in ****ging the company off and forcing the price down. Every single time this happens FACT!!!
The company is volatile as there are limited shares on the market and little consideration is actually given to the actual potential and actual gains the company is making. With you and your buddies constantly degrading the company with the same old garbage over and over and no facts just the sam ol same ol "2 and half years ago the the BOD said something and it did not happen as I expected it to and 5 years ago the price fell bla bla bla!!! This is happening, Thursday we will see.
By the way made 7 % on HUR made 12% on PMO and IOF I made 16% PLUS 500 I made 11% How much have you lost trying to short this share JJAL I expect to make +15% here very soon!
Great news! HNR now Producing oil for 100% profit from 8 wells giving strong income
Water sales have been made
Cannabis sales are now under way after successful trial
Not too interested inn the figures as these are all hypothetical and other costs are around I am sure or unexpected costs but even so costs are covered, debt free and now revenue increasing significantly looks like a real winner. Not sure again about 20 though highly achievable but certainly 16 sounds like a good spot to aim for. I see that clown JJ is still badmouthing the company and BOD.... if he was an investor one might actually take him seriously! But!!! he is what he is and everyone knows not to listen to him, so! do your worst JJ. OSG1 like your optimism, you could well be right this time, a rise today of 15% + will really shake the tree.
On my screen it shows a large number of unknowns for buying or selling on the IOF share trades. (would I assume they are buying but this is being hidden, I can not imagine really that the brokers do not know whether someone has bought or sold a share!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/01/cannabis-medical-cannabidiol-cbd-uk-consumers
found this that is suggesting that medical benefits are massive and the British market is not just massive but fast growing. Uses are expanding all the time.
"There is now no denying the medicinal value of CBD and THC – not even by the British government, which for years maintained that lie even as it rubberstamped the cultivation and export of the world’s largest medicinal cannabis crop.
But the landmark decision in November 2018 to allow UK doctors to prescribe cannabis under extremely limited circumstances, inspired by the cases of Billy Caldwell and Alfie Dingley, whose epilepsy is improved immeasurably by medicinal cannabis products containing both THC and CBD, has left many in a limbo: knowing or believing that cannabis offers a cure, yet remaining unable to access it."
Probably capitalising on the gains to pay off their own debts, unlikely they would sell on a rising streak and after nothing but good news has come out. I am pretty sure that Iofina must be a dollar earner, that means over the last week and yesterday in particular they had a great profit enhancing benefit, Sterling has been falling so their profits have increased, hardly something to sell for, just seems to be all good news at the moment.
If there was a problem coming they would not have dumped a third and left 2 thirds to losses.... logically! Profit taking and they needed the money and probably their best option at this time.
Now up 4%, long as we get good news in the end. all those sellers are the losers, most probably they are the shorters trying to take the price down, now they have been burnt. If it is just investors selling, then really they deserve their misfortune in selling too soon. this share is worth more than 30p a share and probably 50+ based on the last set of news. I know it has risen well but the rise before I believe only takes into account the successful cost savings put in place and not the actual improvements in the actual business and certainly not the potential for this company. that is why I can not understand why anyone but shorters would sell and they for their underhand self-obsessed pathetic self-obsessed gains which hopefully they took a nice big hit today :) Fingers crossed for a 28 to 29p tomorrow strong possibility!!
Having seen HRM and Premier oil the shorters and negatives tend to force the price down despite good news or potential. Personally I find these people a real problem. Though despite them this share does not react as badly and despite the small falls the share does tend to regain the losses and rise. Today the share is down now but has already recovered from the worst and is heading back up and will probably end up in the blue. It has done this on a number of occasions recently. So i guess not to panic and hold your reigns tight. by the end of the week we should have crossed the 30 pence barrier.
News here is so positive with so much more positive news to come and as mentioned financials are raising their price recommendations so overall downside must be limited. fingers crossed guys and gals!
Thanks Peter and Lucky Orange, I read it from someone else that posted. The only place I can find any info. is from here and ADVFN. I came to this share through a buy recommendation. I bought just before the rise having invested in Prem oil and HNR. which are so heavily shorted that it is difficult to judge the peaks and troughs. I was hoping this one would rise on its own merits. There appears to be very few people on either site.... rather the ones on ADV.... seem more interested in ****ging others off rather than discussing the share..... bunch of crazies as far as I can see. I am just looking for more info as I really do not know a lot about this company or the industries and apart from reports on Iodine which seems to be booming and their move into Hemp which seems a smart move I can not really find anything on IOFINA themselves. any guidance to other sites would be appreciated and again thanks for coming back with constructive information. I am planning on staying long here so is nice to be up todate.
I read on ADVFN that the Hemp license will be sorted tomorrow and production will start, which is great news
I just can't understand the falling share price, is it just the shorter's up to no good?
I assume the CBD will send the price a lot higher, I read on a few posts of people buying shares in Iofina and the buys not being reported and even one person saying their purchase was marked as a sell. how does that happen? surely it is computer based sells and buys.
Does anyone have insider knowledge or a good view on what is happening here?
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