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Ruckrover ..........

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""" I’d say as as species if it didn’t then we are in big trouble """

which backs up Darwin ...

and the millions of years the immune system has been "developing"

maybe you forget that antibiotics like penicillin are derived from a bacteria immune system ?

Scancell are skill in the art of building Potent cancer vaccines ...

because of the aged group that are susceptible to the virus an opportunity exists for a very potent safe vaccine to be used and may well be needed to foster life time immunity ... by antibodies as well as Killer T cells ...

the Immunobody platform generates Potent t cells .............. which is why I am very interested because the Old need a potent memory in reserve .. to wage war on any future invading virus ...

bermuda ................ you are such an expert in this mate ..

a reminder ................

Bermudashorts - 18 Mar 2020 - 11:29:37 - 28212 of 28615 Using immunology to fight cancer. - SCLP
Inanaco,

It's not a competition, it's a fact of life that the likes of LD operate at such a high level, they can't be experts on everything - they have to specialise!

LD specialises in cancer vaccines, there will be others at her level specialising in vaccines for infectious and respiratory diseases. Logic says that if the Government/charities/philanthropic organisations are going to allocate emergency funding to expedite a vaccine for an infectious disease then they're more likely to go to a specialist in that field.

It's no slur on LD, it's just common sense.

Also worth noting that Scancell simply don't have a vaccine platform that can be quickly developed and manufactured yet and at the moment speed is of the essence, hence the focus on mRNA vaccines.

""""Also worth noting that Scancell simply don't have a vaccine platform that can be quickly developed and manufactured yet and at the moment speed is of the essence, hence the focus on mRNA vaccines.""""

so on the one hand your advising Speed .............

now because its scancell is about Safety .....

or is it anything i say you just need to disagree with .... ???

enough Ruck ...

Bermuda and Ruck have decided the vaccines could potentially kill 50% of us if they are not safe ... ....

I am off ...

Bermuda

I will repeat the post again .............

inanaco

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RE: Moonparty26 Apr 2020 08:25
you have missed the point bermuda ....

prove it works in the over 55 is critical .......... otherwise you could waste your time running future trials if it is ineffective

what ever Ruck its to do with speed ....

so in effect you have to run two phase one trials back to back ...

under 55 then over 55 ....

meanwhile 5% approx are dying over the age of 55 because of the virus .. lets forget them ...

Ruck ... i am discussing sensible stuff with Bermuda ...

If you can get Bermuda to agree that you are the "go To man" on this subject ...

i will discuss it with you ....

until then you appear to be a lonely warrior on a charge ...

bermuda

how can you prove its safe in the over 55 group without testing that group ???

"""It surely has to be safety first and these are healthy volunteers so why expose the most vulnerable groups to a vaccine before you have proven it's safe? """

anyway ......... i do not wish to be drawn into your Drivel again Ruck

have a good day folks i am sure Ruck will entertain you ....

yes i know .....

But i have "Darwin" on my side

lets hope for your sake Bermuda defends your posts ... ?

only because they dont have any proof .... Ruck

but ask them what is the """odds of been infected twice""" ... ?

then they will scratch there heads .

Ruck

If you cannot put up a serious debate why do you need to attack like a baby throwing the rattle out of the pram ...

Grow up ...

thats a mutation .... crumbs and you still have partial immunity from repeated infections ..

The virus variations
Unfortunately for us, there are lots of different viruses which can all cause very similar common cold-like symptoms. These include viruses like parainfluenza virus, adenovirus and rhinovirus, all of which cause things like sneezing, headaches, coughs and a runny nose.

However, each of these viruses also have subcategories, called serotypes, or strains. For example, rhinovirus has over 100 different serotypes. Now, the good news is that you can’t get ill from the same virus serotype right after getting better, due to the fact that you’ll have developed antibodies which help to protect your immune system for a little while. The not so good news is that you can get another cold from a different virus, or a different virus strain.

Keep in mind that it’s rare that two virus serotypes that cause the common cold will be in circulation at the same time of year in one location. What this means is that if you get sick and then your partner does just after, you’ve probably both suffered due to the same dominant strain of virus – which you have now developed antibodies against. There are also some occasions where the antibodies you’ve developed against one strain will offer some protection against other closely related strains, but this is not guaranteed.

you have missed the point bermuda ....

prove it works in the over 55 is critical .......... otherwise you could waste your time running future trials if it is ineffective

LOL ....

oh come on .. ............. exactly why we should look to Scancell rather than Oxford United ...

and are you telling me that Boris will get the """""same""""" Virus again and become infected next week ?

maybe .... but i am 99.9% sure he will not

my other point stands

ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine trial in the Thames Valley Region. The vaccine is based on an adenovirus vaccine vector and the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, and has been produced in Oxford.

its a simple vaccine with only 1 target .....

Bermuda ....

My point is speed .......... covid is killing the over 55 now !!

Ruck ...

you can only get Covid once ....

a vaccine can stop you getting covid ... if it works

no vaccine stops you getting melanoma ... so add up the death rate over the years rather than the moment

cancer has very low antigen presentation so you need "High Binding" to achieve a kill ........ cancer also fights back by

1/ PD-l ligand turning off T cells
2/ Increasing CD4 helper cells that suppress the immune response rather than inflame it

so the Immunobody T cells have a bigger hurdle to overcome ...

they have to be able to suppress the suppression ....

what society now has........ is Two possible pandemic sources

Cronovirus and the Flu Virus ...