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Hi Andy - thanks to jbt for his answer.
The confusion arose because Eytan just listed the requirements of Charlestown for conversion of the loan into shares in the RNS - I can see how it can be construed differently but it’s clear now shareholders will get their opportunity to vote on it.
GarryGraham
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RE: Added12 Apr 2024 12:01
I have added to my load today and intend to add further. Im balls deep anyway so a few grand more is just going to bring the average down and if the miracle happens my Grand-daughter is looked after. Its only money lot's more important things in life. GG
GG - as you are ‘ balls deep anyway ‘ I can see this consolidation is a worry for you. Have you sold out in the meantime with a view to buying back after consolidation has adversely affected the SP - if so are you worried that positive sentiment in the intervening period might negate any potential impact from consolidation ( if , indeed, there is any at all! ).?
Druid- GY670 was the best of the recent Trinidad wells. It did lose pressure from the initial heady heights but continued to produce respectable daily barrels for many years. Ritson mentioned a couple of years post drill that it was still managing 30 bopd.
Management decided that fresh drilling in that area would have a good chance of hitting that pocket but they suffered the lost equipment issue and had no money to try again.
If the company was better resourced it would have persisted with drilling in that area as an additional well can be used to support water flood or CO2 injection.
CERP was always under capitalised - when Ritson was able to borrow enough for 3 drills he went for it big time but it was ultra high risk with borrowed cash as there was no room for failure and he took to company close to bankruptcy, requiring recapitalisation at huge cost to shareholders.
Ploughing on regardless with borrowed money was reckless with shareholder value.
When Koot took over he used his personality to raise cash for the Saffron project in Cedros. It could have worked but didn’t, after 2 goes.
Now focus is, quite rightly, on Uruguay. As has been mentioned if Chevron decide to drill CEG have a great opportunity to participate and if they choose not to raise cash for it Eytan says they are permitted to trade part of the share to a third party.
Whether they decide on such a course of action largely depends on Eytan’s soundings from the group of large shareholders, which prior to Charlestown, were largely Australian based.
What will be will be but plenty of opportunities for shareholders to stick/twist/sell along the line - a very exciting opportunity with news flow to keep everyone interested!
InterestKing - Trinidad business pretty much breaks even at current production levels, ignoring the G&A of CEG, substantially BOD salaries.
The Goudron licence is main producer. From memory CEG only earn about $7 per barrel on first 150 barrels per month - thereafter rate is better and over 300 rate is even better.
All fresh faced CEOs look at the numbers and think - if only I can get production up to say 450 bopd at Goudron business will be transformed. Problem is investment needed and successive CEOs have all been cash strapped - they’ve raised cash but it’s been for specific projects like new drill on Cedros ( Saffron) - shareholders don’t like to cough up for boring Goudron .
If CEG do have a bit of cash spare after advancing Uruguay they may be able to make Goudron more viable which may increase the value if they want to get shot of it ultimately. PRD have bought Cory Moruga and will be applying their CO2 injection process to it- CEG will watch with interest.
I’m not saying any more about Trinidad because most people don’t want to know - Uruguay is the sexy number now!
Cedros peninsula is SW Trinidad where some areas ouse oil naturally at surface. At Galpha point oil bearing rock is visible at the beach. At that beach it’s possible to see Offshore oil platforms in the Venezuelan basin where oil has been successfully extracted for many years.
Many have suggested that a deep drill onshore at Cedros may yield similar bounty but depth is required, ideally 15,000 feet and that costs a huge amount. CERP under Koot managed to finance two drills, at shallower levels, but was commercially unsuccessful.
CEG still have license and it wouldn’t surprise me if it was sold for many millions as part of the stated strategic plan.
GarryGraham - how is the Charlestown deal a first step to dilution bearing in mind the conversion of the loan and Warrants are both at a premium to SP?
A share consolidation, per se, is not dilutive.
This is just more Timid Trolling trotting out the historical information and suggesting history will repeat itself. Yes it can - I expect the SP to advance in the build up period and it will almost certainly fall if there’s a duster- who would disagree with that.
If, however, the drill is ultimately successful, history of scenarios involving other companies, not CEG, suggests the SP will boom spectacularly!
The above 2 scenarios are the crux of buying shares in an Exploration Model - your dilution suggestion is pure tosh !
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Disgraced Compulsive Liar 12bn - there you go again with your lying - why make up this shyte !
The Chevron deal is subject to approval from Uruguay Government, that much is true but why make up that it’s also dependent on seismic ?
Always the same 12bn - when you’re on the ropes you become more and more desperate - people on here know that - it’s why you’ve got a FILTER LIST LONGER THAN SCHINDLER!
I’m posting up below relevant paragraphs from the RNS dealing with the Chevron deal. The cost of 3D seismic is clearly not cheap, up to $15 million mentioned in the RNS.
Try and follow the logic here 12bn, before yesterday’s financing announcement you were telling us daily, sometimes multiple times daily, that CEG were rapidly running out of money. How did you think that CEG would complete 3D seismic, before completion of the Chevron deal LOL!!!!!!
· Chevron will pay to CEG US$12.5 million cash on completion of the Transaction, these funds will be used to support the further development of the Company's business.
· Chevron will carry 100% of CEG Uruguay's share of the costs associated with a 3D seismic campaign on AREA OFF-1, up to a maximum of US$15 million net to CEG Uruguay.
· Following the 3D seismic campaign, should Chevron decide to drill an initial exploration well on the AREA-OFF 1 block, Chevron will carry 50% of CEG Uruguay's share of costs associated with that well, up to a maximum of US$20 million net to CEG Uruguay.
Point here is that there is no dilution element associated with the consolidation, unlike previous versions in this company’s history that Trolls will no doubt mention.
Many institutions are not allowed to invest in very low price shares so the move is likely to be positive by widening the net of potential investors.
Druid - there were disappointed bidders for some licences.
Eytan acknowledges he was fortunate there was no competition for the first licence but if you listen to the story of how it came about in the recent video you’ll understand that CEG worked hard for their luck.
Has it occurred to you that Uruguay Government like the cut of CEG’s jib in that CEG forged ahead with the seismic development at a good pace and ultimately landed a well heeled suitor in Super Major Chevron!
Time to get behind your shareholding Druid they’ll be plenty of real trolls for me to banter with once this starts to heat up!
BTW what on earth possessed you to post at this hour - you are lucky I’m still up!
ATB!
GarryGraham- rereading my post about Timid Trolls and your speculation about Chevron pulling out last minute what about speculating that Chevron didn’t know about the duster and that could be their get out - of course that would be to your detriment in respect of the claimed recent investment- intriguing eh!
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Timid Trolling!25 Mar 2024 16:45
Willec - GarryGraham is an interesting case study on the Trolling spectrum - as the heading suggests he is a Timid Troll - instead of slating the company he pops up from time to time, makes some neutral/ positive comments, whinges a bit then slips in the negative comment.
I remember the pattern from the lead up to the Bahamas drill - found it difficult to believe he’d actually invested having regard to his state of anguish he’d been in then, when it failed, the buyers remorse kicked in big time!
If his posts are genuine it’s difficult to understand why someone with that attitude is prepared to go another 10 rounds with the company on a new drill venture whilst pooping their pants at each stage.
Furthermore in such a scenario why highlight negatives if you are genuinely invested - by way of example I give you fairly recent post where instead of just saying the Chevron deal is not complete until everything is agreed, including Government approval he decided to speculate that Chevron had included last minute caveats in the deal. He may be correct but why introduce that little bit of extra speculation based on zero knowledge - I could easily speculate that Chevron have done so many deals historically they have a rigorous tick box list to complete and want to see all the evidence before they even release the news they’ve done a deal because pulling out at the last moment suggests they didn’t do proper due diligence in the first place which is not great for a Super Major!
I wish all shareholders success in this venture - there’s plenty of proper trolls about - they don’t need your help!
GarryGraham- in the light of the historical information about the Total drill it’s intriguing that there was such a scramble for the Uruguay licences, not to mention the Chevron $12.5 million deal for a part share.
Even more intriguing is why you’ve bought more in this very recently!
SadKen - this board has, historically, been overwhelmed with negative comment, largely from disgruntled shareholders or former shareholders. These are generally people who seemed intelligent enough to read the ' shares can go down as well as up ’ warning but for some reason ( never disclosed ) didn’t think it would apply to them buying shares in a high risk Oil Exploration and Production Company !
As the SP tanked for so long the disgruntled formed a bubble of Moaning Minnies who just trolled the board wanting to cast doubt on the actions of the CEO - recently this has been to cast serious doubt the CEO would get a farm in. Willec to his credit has argued that the CEO should be given time and was clearly right so to do.
I see no problem with posters positively supporting their investment - surely it’s what’s expected by anyone venturing on to these boards - that doesn’t mean they have licence to lie but positive spin is acceptable-he doesn’t need to list all the negatives- he’s not claiming to be an independent advisor.
I often highlight negative comment on here as I do question the motivation of such posters - if they’re trolling to get the SP down I understand it but trolling just because they’ve been jilted seems rather a waste of time!
OhnBriggs
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RE: Deadlines23 Feb 2024 10:37
Hahahaha, ah Luthee you really are the ultimate apologist. You fail to recognise that if a CEO comes out with a deadline such as fam out by Christmas and then that changes to oh now another 12 weeks, by end of Q1 2024 it makes them look naive and incompetent when these deadlines aren't met. All the while tie company is running on fumes.
Why on earth would anyone want to give their money to a company with no credibility and run by amateurs and most importantly who on earth would want to partner with them. The industry and market never forgets those who mislead and default.
12bn - 09 Apr 2024 - 14:25:54 - 21018 of 21037 challenger energy group - CEG
Imo CEG will need cash soon,well before the Uruguayan govt gives it its go-ahead and it will have to do a discounted placing,imo. We shall see but do not trust folks with a vested interest here.
Why would anyone want to place any credence on your opinion when they can access the video of CEO post Chevron RNS pretty much saying company had funds for around 3 months before they needed to access capital and he very resistant to any dilution.
Therefore your trolling is premature - rather like your conclusion CEO wouldn’t get a farm in deal cos it was taking too long!
Good try 12bn but no cigar! BTW I also love your filter system as it allows me to debunk your tosh without triggering moronic replies from you!
Another BTW is if they need cash to tide them over option of a loan shouldn’t be overlooked ( like they did recently regarding sale of Cory Moruga ). I’m sure CEO would consider that as he advised recently he reads my posts!