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Yes they can, they have £200m nearly in the bank with income starting. Misinformation again so would you like to explain your "fact" that they can't afford it?

I have been thinking the same for some but wasn't sure if there are rules in terms of announcing intentions in advance or something, seems not but would be a great opportunity considering the cash on hand and current share price.

Wouldnt be considered manipulation of their own share price?

When they start with pointless personal drivel at nearly midnight on a Saturday you certainly know where their stress levels are at.

Must be so hard for the poor darlings looking at those chips they just can't cash in.

When Cheeks and Chonks are given overtime on a Saturday night times are getting a tough, and things are getting rough .

What you would give for 23 million shares at this price 🤔 losers

Pandy it is a good question you ask, and this is absolutely the key reason why the informed investors are so confident, and why it is important that genuine long term holders read up on this, to understand the workings of the market and why we believe they are in big trouble.

You are absolutely right, the price keeps falling and on paper they (shorts) are making more money .

The key to this is now volume and the number of shares which they are obliged to buy back. The current number of shares they have to buy is 23 Million ( give or take) and for them to realise this profit is to buy ALL of those shares at the current price.

Current volume is less than 2m shares each day traded, so they would have to buy ALL shares traded for somewhere between 10 and 20 days depending on volume, and that is if noone else buys or sells.

Shorts have to report any change in their holdings to FSA so that it is visible to anyone.

This is when the short squeeze starts, long term holders are not selling, most days around 0.3% of all available shares traded so where do they buy 23 million shares without the price rising significantly?

Great question, there is some great background info on here from credible posters, but there is also a lot of misinformation as well so try and do your own research.

Absolute rubbish, the stock is valued below cash, the order book is filling up and once a few more orders start coming in, and you lot start buying the 23 million shares you have borrowed we will see a more realistic share price.

Funny how you are now targeting 20p, 30p was your holy grail a few weeks ago but shock horror, there is still no volume for you even in the 20's.

Agree 110% Bilbo, there is no volume for them to buy, so resorting to these ridiculous tactics which are about as easy to see through as a new pair of specs.

They know as soon as they move it will be carnage, and I still suspect most of the selling volume is just them playing silly b*****s every day, while genuine holders pick up more which they won't let them have back.

We have time, are not in a rush, just keep topping up when funds spare but most importantly don't sell, and believe in what ITM are building.

This takeover territory has been discussed many times, you know it but good effort.

There is a complex ownership group which someone covered including Linde and other major holders who will not sell at these ridiculous prices.

It's not happening and you know it, do you know how a takeover works and how it needs to be agreed by a majority?

Wow two of you on overtime tonight, must be getting desperate.

Maybe you can explain why a company currently valued at less than cash in the bank, with an order book starting to fill up is going to fall significantly lower or even fail?

Maybe you lot should try and start cashing your chips and see what effect that has on the share price.

Oh sorry I forgot, you know with so little volume that your £17 mill paper profit will disappear very quickly and those Porsches and Lambos pinned on to your desks are only a dream.

You need to understand that ITM don't need to corner the market, they only need to keep getting a small percentage of what will be a massive energy supply to make a significant profit.

Classic fear tactic, you should know now there are many on here who weren't born yesterday.

"Oh how I wish I had sold at 50, maybe I should just sell now and at least get something back".... Sorry not falling for it.

I believe in the company, the tech and the orders coming through. The value of cash on hand is significantly higher than the share value, ignoring orders / tech / inventory.

The market sentiment and the fact that there are 23 million more shares sold than are made available is dragging share price down.

Sorry just to word my last post correctly, Helikon & Qube need to BUY 23m ( or whatever the number is ) shares. They have borrowed them, sold them and they need to buy them back in order to realise their profit.

My wording was incorrect :) ....... I strongly believe they would be happy to now sell their 23 million ( should read BUY )

Eastwood I agree with the points which you make, but I think this little board, discussing this little stock is somehow key for them. If you look how many new users have come and gone while all trying to tow the same line. Granted they have slightly improved their approach over the past months but the same underlying approach is used, which is to spread fear.

Whether this board is significant or not, the fact is Yesterday the price fell to 27p yet only 1.7m shares traded hands, which is less than 0.3% of all shares in circulation, which also means that even at this low price 99.7% of shareholders did not sell their shares.

I strongly believe they would be happy to now sell their 23 million ( give or take between Helikon and Qube ) but look at this morning, up by 6% on only 300,000 shares traded, so 99.95% of shareholders have taken no action this morning yet the price has risen by 6%.

What price movement would it take for them to get hold of the remaining 3.5% / 22.7 million of the shares which they require to cash in this profit?

There is a huge amount of profit at stake for them, I have some experience of the financial world and I know the lengths people will go to for greed. I have no doubt that they see "this little board" as a key part of their strategy in getting the volume they need to realise their profits at others demise.

For this reason I am holding the shares which I have bought for the long term, and I am topping up at these great levels where I can afford to. ( Not advice, DYOR ) .

The "short" term visitors to this group have one agenda and one only, however they try to mask it and fit in so that it allows them to spread uncertainty.

They want your shares, in big numbers at these ridiculous prices so that they can cash in massive profit on others losses.

If you look at volume, aside from the odd day ( which I think they are trading between themselves as prices don't move significantly those days), no-one is selling enough to give them the volume required.

Yesterday the price drop came about due to reasons discussed and accepted, BUT only around 1.7m shares traded which is less than 1/3 of 1% of shares in circulation..... Not exactly panic amongst investors who see long term prospects improving.

JuliusCes you make a good point, but what we have to remember is that they HAVE to buy back that house which they sold ( which they didn't own in the first place ).

Right now the value of that house has fallen significantly, but if and in this case WHEN the value of that house rises they still have an obligation to buy it at market price.

This is why it is so important for them to talk down the value of said house using all sorts of tactics....... Could just imagine what kind of things would be suggested.... "The house was built on a Mine, next door has just been occupied by drug dealers" etc etc.

All we have to do is hold, top up if you decide and look at the fundamentals and genuine revenue which is coming.

I wonder if they are still playing games.... I just can't see how volume goes up from about 2m traded to around 6m traded per day with the price moving so little unless they are just buying and selling them between themselves.

I don't think ( my opinion) that there will be so many genuine sellers at this price. Investors in the main have held on for so long, with all the volatility coming with tiny volume.

Interested to see what the report is on short interest next week, not sure when it updates ?

I will be surprised if it is much different from today.

It looks like it's going to be whoever blinks first, volume remains low, and holders adding to reduce their cost base means there will be less to buy at ridiculous prices when it does hit the fan.

Although the shorters and their hired help are smug right now, they still have over 20m shares to get their hands on. Over 10 days buying all shares that have been traded today. Their job now is to create uncertainty so that investors let them have their shares at a value less than cash in the bank .

Personally I look at this as a long term investment and with order books and revenue rising I love the small tops ups... 10k shares for less than £3k...... Unbelievable.

There appears to be a lot of larger ( 20k - 40k) sales around that 29.98p level over the last few hours.

Is that a sustained effort to keep it under 30p or just a coincidence that investors want to sell that size holding at that level..... I think not myself.

It's really small numbers but with the volume we are seeing at the moment it could have an effect?

OK Spicy so your comment " there is no way the shorters are stuck" which comes across a fact with evidence to back it up is now an opinion?

Would you care to elaborate on why you think this?

I think Helikon need to buy back 18 MILLION shares in a stock which has another 4 Million outstanding and some days turns over only 1.5 million shares.

You do understand that when there are more buyers than sellers that the price rises don't you?

I think they will be able to get the first few million fairly easily but once the cat is out of the bag it will be carnage.

Or I could be wrong and they have friends hoovering these million odd a day and have been doing for months but considering all the Shenanigans here I don't think they are that bright. Let's face it, they are small fry and this has become a massive deal for them ( IMHO ).

Spicy you say it as a fact..."there is no way the shorts are stuck"

Your are at best uneducated or at worst trying to deceive with this statement.

A short by it's inherent nature is a risky investment without a known outcome. For you to say that they have it all in hand is completely misleading. If what you say is true then why don't ALL hedge funds make a fortune with non going out of business?

Helikon now have the uncertainty of Qube needing to buy what 4 million shares back at way way lower prices than them to make a profit, if they jump first for their 4m that will put Helikon in a corner and they will be forced to act fast.

Thanks Ianous, I appreciate you going through that and reporting back :)