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No because that £5mil has been ringfenced away from the rest of dish. Presumed as an investor you’d understand this.

Also it’s a convertible loan note, so it’s up to the company that provided this loan whether or not they convert or ask for the money back.

If they convert then dish gets diluted but it’s also a good thing as shows they have confidence in dish. If they don’t believe in dish then they will just ask for the money back, if dish can’t pay then......

Bob I agree the $5mil is non dilutive as its being put in an spv, sure it puts a downer on potential upside but is non dilutive.

The £500k, if it gets converted into equity is therefore dilutive, there’s no question on that. The £500k will be dilutive if it gets converted to equity. But it’s only minor to be fair and don’t know (can’t remember) what price it was agreed at.

I.e. with dish

Positives:
- the UK takes off, they get the £5mil ring fenced amount and benefit from international growth
- lots of private companies start using dish and dish get a % of their company

Negatives:
- the UK doesn’t gain traction, they run out of cash and don’t get the $5mil ring fenced amount to expand. They then need to pay back the £500k but with no cash to do so. Bust or dilution
- the private equity side doesn’t work. Or it does work, but due to the timelines of success for the underlying companies dish never manage to make it work

I have lots of shares where I can accept that they might not succeed. But I balance the risk with the reward, it doesn’t mean you ignore the potential risks and only look at the positives

Only two months till interims come out. Always good to have these dates in your diary.

Dear diary, 31st December I have a meeting booked with my financial adviser, we will read through the interim report and he will tell me if it’s all okay.

Confirmation bias only, here please

We want to be ostriches with our heads in the sand, nothing could ever be negative about my beloved dish. Confirmation bias only please.

The techies and financial adviser met up in a pub and said this was a screaming buy.

You’ll be happy to know the techies and the financial adviser live together and there were only 4 of them so weren’t in breach of government rules

Surprised dish didn’t RNS that:

“Serial ramper and pain in everyone’s neck has stepped down from his/her duties on LSE.

Much to the relief of everyone this BB can return to normality where there is research done on the company, once RT leaves as well it could be a quiet place meaning each post is actually worthwhile rather than just rampy/derampy bs”

It would be good to see Tom buy some shares. A ceo aligned with the company would give a bit of a boost at times like these.

Of course not Jsmith. But as I’ve said before I’m not invested as wanted funding secured first, but in my opinion that hasn’t been achieved yet.

I know Jsmith but you seem to have zero confidence in dish

Jsmith.

You’ve had plenty of chances to take some cash off the table, I suggested you do so back at 2p. You only have yourself to blame if you over invested in the first place

My thoughts would be take out what you have left before you lose it all.

But then part of me thinks you either aren’t invested or actually have peanuts in here and what you post is all for show.

I’d rather not know what you paid him £200 to do

Well Bob, is that was an investment manager who handles most of your portfolio and you get him to do some execution only speculative punts and asked him to just have a look at the rns then that makes sense.

But financial advisers will not touch direct stocks, they will put you in ETFs or some active funds but will give you to a discretionary manager if you want more of a portfolio.

He must be a crook to be charging you £200 to read an rns of a company he probably knows nothing about.

Don’t forget the recent one Trend:

My £200 financial adviser told me this is a quality business

Js smith, what do you think this means:
A Venture Builder model benefits from a leaner management team and has a low cost base with its core focus on technology development where the various businesses are privately funded.

That to me says bye bye telesales and bye tom

What is paying for financial got to do with anything?

A financial adviser will help you with pension planning, retirement, tax etc. Not tell you if dish is a good investment. lol

I guess the question is Jsmith did you plan on buying an illiquid vct that will take 5/10 years to realise any gains, whilst either having to stump up cash to help fund the start ups or face mass dilution when they go through various fundraises before their product finally turns cash generative?

Because that’s now, in theory, what you own.

As an idea of how this works look at Augmentum Fintech, nearest you get on the public market without being a proper vct

Pivot, pivot, pivot, pivot and sweat equity

Was doing a bit of weekend reading and thought of you jsmith:

Loss-Aversion Bias: Do you have a stock in your portfolio that is down so much that you can’t stomach the thought of selling? In reality, if you sold the stock, the money that is left could be reinvested into a higher-quality stock. But because you don’t want to admit that the loss has gone from a computer screen to real money, you hold on in hopes that you will, one day, make it back to even.