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You are talking about a tiny percentage difference. Get a grip FFS.

This could be last chance saloon at this price IMVHO.

2phevs,

I can see the USA stocks (BE., BLDP, FCEL, PLUG) are a bit further up today than the UK stocks (AFC, CWR, ITM, PPS), but as it is a global market drop for tech stocks, then if they continue to recover then the MM's will start marking the UK stocks up again (making themselves more money in the process). Is it a dead cat bounce for the tech stocks or not? A few days and we will know.

Global tech stocks are all down, as are AFC's peers in the Fuel Cell and Hydrogen sector. It has nothing to do with this company specifically, it is a market movement.

That question was answered yesterday...

What the con men wont tell you is easily found in the news today
https://www.wsj.com/articles/global-stock-markets-dow-update-01-10-2022-11641804091

Alt,

I disagree.

Anyone, in fact everyone that reads a stock market BB should know that they need to verify any claims themselves and that they should take anyone else's opinion with a pinch of salt. They should, by virtue of being able to understand English, be able to understand the difference between words such as "might" "possibly" "maybe" "will" "wont" "has" "hasn't" etc, which determine whether a person posting is speculating or making claims of fact. If said people cannot understand that, they should not be reading investment BB's.

I really don't understand why people give DW the time of day, as he clearly has an agenda of his own, whether that is based on his trading or something else is hard to say, but nobody ****s off their investment and it's CEO on a regular daily basis unless they think they have something to gain by doing so. I filtered him ages ago, took the filter off because people were thanking him for one post, but he quickly went back on filter for continuing his attacks on AFC and AB. He's staying on filter for good now, because he will never change his tune. Even if AB left, DW would find someone else to have constant digs at, be that the technical director, marketing director (if we get one), etc. It is pointless reading all that garbage and filling your brain with baseless drivel, just filter and forget.

Alt,

The entire stock market is based on speculation.

Speculate to accumulate.

The MSP system, if you check the images on the MSP site they are named NEOM, so not just anywhere in Saudi, to the new high tech 'Hydrogen City' NEOM. Yes, I'm speculating, but for me the clue is clear in the name of the images.

Alt,

It wasn't a membrane, it was catalyst that would allow AFC to use Alkamem with Methanol. I found it with searches on the research publications sites (like Google Scholar, but there's a few out there. I sent the info to AFC too.

devnull,

Great move!!

Further to that, AFC are going to lease the HFC, so ABB could take them on lease with a remit to upgrade them later on if the client wishes. The upgrade options could be:

HFC with integrated Methanol Cracker
S Series running on Hydrogen
S Series with integrated Ammonia Cracker

All the systems that AFC get back, they can easily be refurbished (new membrane and electrodes) or recycled (split down to parts and those parts reused in new S Series or Methanol systems).

ABB clients do not necessarily need Ammonia, and those that would like Ammonia can still get off the ground with a Hydrogen system and move to Ammonia later.

I can't see in this thread that anyone has suggested ABB taking an HFC system?

If they just wanted a more compact system than the L Series, specifically the S Series, then the HFC is going to be exactly the same size as the S Series.

ABB, by taking HFC's from when they are ready (this month), would allow them to satisfy much pent up demand for off grid EV charging from their clients. AFC would also be able to sell the product ABB build to it's own clients.

The HFC is also said (in news items) to likely go to Acciona.

I don't understand why investors would focus on the S Series, when it is the HFC and possibly L Series that will be selling now.

Altaaqa are not looking at EV charging, they hire out huge gensets, many to the construction industry. "Altaaqa owns and operates the world's largest Caterpillar rental fleet, with 2 GW+ capacity of mobile modular power".

Other construction site owners like Mace etc can take both L Series and HFC, depending on the size of the site and the power needs on that site.

I can't see in this thread that anyone has suggested ABB taking an HFC system?

If they just wanted a more compact system than the L Series, specifically the S Series, then the HFC is going to be exactly the same size as the S Series.

ABB, by taking HFC's from when they are ready (this month), would allow them to satisfy much pent up demand for off grid EV charging from their clients. AFC would also be able to sell the product ABB build to it's own clients.

The HFC is also said (in news items) to likely go to Acciona.

I don't understand why investors would focus on the S Series, when it is the HFC and possibly L Series that will be selling now.

Altaaqa are not looking at EV charging, they hire out huge gensets, many to the construction industry. "Altaaqa owns and operates the world's largest Caterpillar rental fleet, with 2 GW+ capacity of mobile modular power".

Other construction site owners like Mace etc can take both L Series and HFC, depending on the size of the site and the power needs on that site.

I could have bought in for 0.3p but was busy working and paid 0.8p later on when I saw the price, I'm not bitter though, because only a small fraction of investors ever buy bang on at the bottom.

The other thing is, if you are a genuine long term holder, there is still masses of upside ahead into the multiple £'s per share, so buy in price is not that big a deal, as you can still make loads of money in the next few years whether you bought at 0.25p or 80p. Actually being in and holding through the ups and downs is the key, which is another reason I have my shares in certificates and have no trading accounts, I can't get tempted to sell in the ups and downs, I don't want that temptation there because I am confident the shares will reach my target price long term.

https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=Stock&symb=UK%3AAFC&time=100&startdate=3%2F1%2F2009&enddate=4%2F1%2F2009&freq=1&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=2&style=320&size=2&x=48&y=13

AB is responsible for all this carnage LOL!!! (NOT!)

AFC -3.3%
cwr -4.4%
ITM -3.9%
PPS -7.1%
BE. -2.8%
BLDP -5.5%
FCEL -3.9%
PLUG -3.6%

What the con men wont tell you is easily found in the news today
https://www.wsj.com/articles/global-stock-markets-dow-update-01-10-2022-11641804091

I reckon a lot of the below amateur day traders on here have bought back in multiple times in the past few days thinking it was the bottom, only to have their stop losses wiped out as it went lower again LOL!! What comes around goes around!! Hence why they keep reappearing trying to get it to go lower again and again. There goes their rent money and trading costs LOL!!

As for Russian old and gas money, that appears to be garbage too.

‘Mr Temerko is not a Russian, nor any longer, one of its citizens. He was born in the Ukraine and became a British citizen some years ago.

‘He has shown he is committed to the success of our regional economy through his considerable personal investment in North East businesses.

‘You state that I received £50,000 from Mr Temerko. This is incorrect. I have personally not received any funds from Mr Temerko, however my association, Berwick-upon-Tweed Conservative Association, did receive funds in the run-up to the General Election 2015 totalling £7,240, as listed in my entry to the Register of Members Interests.

‘Mr Temerko donated, as his is right as a British citzen, and all donations are properly and transparently declared.’

https://www.northumberlandgazette.co.uk/news/mp-responds-aps50000-election-donation-claims-400106

As for climate change denier, you shouldn't believe all the crap in the daily mail. She is no such thing, she admits being better informed now, and does believe in climate change.

"But Ms Trevelyan, who was promoted by Prime Minister Boris Johnson in last month’s Cabinet reshuffle, said she had since seen that there was a “changing set of weather patterns” and called for the UK to decarbonise its economy and shift to green energy sources."

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/boris-johnson-prime-minister-conservative-party-twitter-cabinet-b958725.html

Climate Change denial and Russian oil/gas money has nothing to do with promoting UK businesses, which is all about GDP, Exports, Balance Of Trade, Foreign Direct Investment, Manufacturing Production, etc.

Sector down, NOTHING to do with AFC specifically
AFC -3.5%
CWR -4.8%
ITM -4.0%
PPS -4.8%
BE. -3.6%
BLDP -5.3%
FCEL -4.4%
PLUG -4.7%