Boatman? From the 25th anyway isn't it? They have had it in for us before the beginning.... Prices of lots of stocks down. How much more will it go? Think it's a wider thing. Would be lovely to get positive info about TFR...but? Rand down recently against Dollar which is good... but we do need deliveries. Hopefully on or about August 15th if the delivery figures aren't the best the price may compensate somewhat....but still no substitute for coal on ships.