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Clued, yes indeed they do. However, Mulder was taking issue with shorters.

Thing is, broomtree, if I'm wrong, there's only upside for me from here on in. If you're wrong...

Broomtree - Yeah, I know.

Mulder, 'shorters' usually have some reason for taking the position they do.

I wasn't up early enough. And probably wouldn't have done it anyway, even if I had been. I am frozen, still, by indecision.

I'd disagree about Buffets' quote applying equally to an individual company as it does to the much broader market, with a far wider community of investors with a far larger range of companies to choose to invest in. a market operates in a much larger scale and diversity of interests. Much as a by-election catches a moment in time or a local issue, a general election reflects the views of the whole of the (those who take an interest) electorate.

Andy144. thanks for that. Buffet was actually referencing the whole Stock Market, not any single individual company. Which makes a lot more sense than your adaptation.

'...In the Short-Run, the Market Is a Voting Machine, But in the Long-Run, the Market Is a Weighing Machine...'

Metalhead - Yeah, I was wondering what I'd do if I were looking to invest today with what I've got in here. There's so many 8%, 9% even 10% dividend paying companies out there as of today. Even just knowing what's factual and proven about this company (I mean all the 'positives'), I'd have settled for one of the 8% -10% payouts. I really would be interested to read what others would do.

Notrex, what makes you come to that conclusion ?

Andy144 - What does this even mean ? '...DEC is still currently a voting machine which one day should become a weighing machine...' I see you've made few Maga and Qanon references today, is this another one ?

What price did you buy at, Metalhead25 ?

Notrex Yeah, what can I say, the recovery in the share price here today has left me totally flummoxed.

Oiled-Up - What, exactly, is your obsession with mocking those with mental health issues ? You seem to think mocking this one group of people is somehow ok. Do you mock Blacks, Jews, those with physical disabilities too ? Or is it just this one group you enjoy demeaning ?

Metalhead25, can't argue with your reasoning. I do take issue with one of your assumptions though - when it comes to fraud, PwC (or any other auditor) doesn't have to be 'in on it'.

As for the modifying of hedge positions, and whether that's backward or forward facing, neither side of that argument can at this point prove which is the correct view to take. After all, hedging is an unregulated practice, and the very opacity of the use of the word 'modification' hardly helps to get a full picture of the companys' finances.

Good luck to you though, I hope in the fullness of time your investment proves to be a wise one.

*ET, not CT.

Lukee, you do realise that NG is traded on the NYME 23 hours day, right ? From 6pm CT to 5pm CT ?

The only thing that makes sense, as to why DEC drops every time gas rises, is that it has to pay more to make up the difference between what it's committed to deliver versus what it can actually physically deliver. What other explanation makes sense ?

Thetrotsky, you're assuming DEC has enough cashflow to cover its' expenses. There's plenty of evidence that it's dipping into its RCF to meet its' day to day expenses.

Bluemango, that's a VERY good point you make. If DEC 'knows of no reason' for the drop in share price, it should say exactly that. If it DOES know of a reason, but states it doesn't, then it would definitely be committing fraud.

Andy144. I think with CFDs, if you held them past the dividend date, you'd be liable to pay out the dividend too, so there's that to consider if they have to held longer than a couple of months. I'm sure it's the same with the IG instrument. Otherwise you could buy the day before ex-div date and sell on ex-div date and pocket the difference in ex-dividend drop.

Andy144, that's really interesting post, thanks for that. I need to figure out if it's worthwhile at this point, but certainly one for the future. When ii used to be TD Waterhouse they had a CFD trading option, but that disappeared long ago. Thankyou for this though.