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Not sure when this one was launched but it's a new one to me and as you see has the same name as another well known product.

Konilife Thromboflow from Konimex. Indonesia I believe.

https://www.tokopedia.com/bigstore0910/konilife-thromboflow-isi-30-kap-untuk-melancarkan-sirkulasi-darah?extParam=ivf%3Dfalse%26src%3Dsearch

https://www.konimex.com/search/Konilife

OptiFlow still available on the website but not in Walmart
https://brickerlabs.com/collections/heart-health/products/optiflow

Blood Pressure formula still available on Amazon but not on the website.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fruitflow-Supplement-Magnesium-Vegetarian-Manufactured/dp/B0854LWT4G

Fruitflow Plus available on website but not Amazon.
https://www.fruitflowplus.com/buy/

I doubt there are any transitions issues.

Maybe you are right and it doesn't warrant an RNS but I would have thought something of this scale would have fallen into rule 11 or 12 but I am obviously wrong :(
The other option could be that nothing has happened yet.

Insert shrugs shoulders emoji here
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Its not a case of whether IF can be bothered or not but there are certain regulations that the company must adhere to when it comes to the release of certain information.

For sure alf, I will be disappointed if we don't get an RNS in the next couple of days and as you say a trading update around the end of June giving some info on the first six months of having our own stock would be great.

Well depending on what option IF has chosen to go wrt buying the stock from DSM then the second payment could be due tomorrow.
There comes a time when the market/shareholder needs to know what is going on.

Yes, couldn't access it recently but it might have been to change a few things including the picture of the box.

Zaax used to be a product (brand) of Sequoia in Poland
https://sequoia.pl/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/zaax_box.jpg
https://sequoia.pl/czy_wiesz_ze_swoja_rehabilitacje-2/
but recently couldn't find it on the website
https://sequoia.pl/marka/zaax-en/

I have no idea when this happened but it now looks like Zaax (or Sequoia) is owned by Reig Jofre
https://zaax.com.pl/o-produkcie/

Reig Jofre products are available in more than 70 countries, in 8 of them thanks to our own network of subsidiaries in (Spain, France, Portugal, Belgium, Sweden, United Kingdom, Poland and Singapore) and in the rest thanks to our network of more than 155 business partners.
https://reigjofre.com/en/about-us/locations/

With sales last year of 236 million Euros
https://reigjofre.com/en/about-us/reig-jofre-in-brief/

What does this mean?
Probably nothing but I was bored this morning :)

https://vimeo.com/799418263

https://www.atlantiaclinicaltrials.com/blog/atlantias-clinical-solutions-for-assessing-prebiotics-effectiveness-in-cardiovascular-health

No idea who he is or how many listeners he has for his radio show but he gave Fruitflow a mention @ 12 min 15 sec
https://prn.live/the-gary-null-show-02-22-23/

I doubt very much IF is sunbathing on an Australian beach with all that is going on at the moment and just to be clear, it has not been 7 years since IF signed an agreement with B-H.

November 2016 DSM signed a Collaboration agreement with B-H
April 2017 Provexis enter an MOU for a research and development with B-H
August 2019 Provexis have a Collaboration agreement with By-Health
4 November 2021 Agreement between Provexis and By-Health for supply of Fruitflow and support in R&D.

It has been just over 6 years since DSM signed the first agreement though.

https://dzb-hxnews-com.translate.goog/life/zxnews/2023/0223/87466.html?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

https://www-163-com.translate.goog/dy/article/HU8NKFTR05396KGH.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

https://i-ifeng-com.translate.goog/c/8NdaXuKdrVe?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

and the original Chinese links.
http://dzb.hxnews.com/life/zxnews/2023/0223/87466.html

https://www.163.com/dy/article/HU8NKFTR05396KGH.html

https://i.ifeng.com/c/8NdaXuKdrVe

I have seen it before but for some reason I haven't put it on my list.
Maybe didn't realise it had FF in it.

For sale on shopee.tw
https://shopee.tw/%F0%9F%92%A5%E5%85%8D%E9%81%8B%F0%9F%92%A5MG%E5%AE%8F%E6%BA%90%E7%94%9F%E9%86%AB-%E7%AE%A1%E8%88%92%E9%81%A9%E8%86%A0%E5%9B%8A-%E5%85%A8%E7%B4%A0(30%E7%B2%92-%E7%9B%92%EF%BC%89-i.13996263.17919730836

https://www.nutraceuticalsworld.com/contents/view_online-exclusives/2023-02-20/polyphenol-rich-extract-shown-to-reduce-cardiovascular-risk-marker/

Forgot the link to the Chinese article.
https://mbd.baidu.com/newspage/data/landingsuper?baijiahao_id=1693898004131476920&id=1693898004131476920&wfr=spider&for=pc&third=baijiahao&c_source=kunlun&p_tk=6206DHCgrt7rNpmID6zVjMIGPcVDc8%2FNGrEL9x33OkNk55lO7kEKizrwTgJbyL5C9c392yE67cdHjOTGKIrOIJMGJxbxxgk32UXrP6aLw8yNWbP%2FRvdYTiuogidRYm%2Bh3Jcgg5o0iJT%2FMXiWvoOff8qp2Q%3D%3D&p_timestamp=1676923482&p_sign=745aebc566842cf227bb26bffb3ee57c&p_signature=59431f5a8f0c831e9bf817f46fc3d6fe&__pc2ps_ab=6206DHCgrt7rNpmID6zVjMIGPcVDc8%2FNGrEL9x33OkNk55lO7kEKizrwTgJbyL5C9c392yE67cdHjOTGKIrOIJMGJxbxxgk32UXrP6aLw8yNWbP%2FRvdYTiuogidRYm%2Bh3Jcgg5o0iJT%2FMXiWvoOff8qp2Q%3D%3D|1676923482|59431f5a8f0c831e9bf817f46fc3d6fe|745aebc566842cf227bb26bffb3ee57c

Just to add.
If the figures quoted by Asim are correct. To produce one kilogram of product costs 150 euros.
https://kalbela.com/ajkerpatrika/lastpage/tuymwkotei?fbclid=IwAR3spF9l_cAtr6yApMDpTCA-keqdTH6s0467tTbtnQ94vBuDnlovDJu5_sA
and if the figures quoted in this Chinese article are correct. Cost to purchase = 6000RMB/kg or 820 Euros
then no one can doubt that that is a good return on investment.

To say things like DSM hold 15 years worth of stock or Fruitflow isnt profitable is simply wrong.

Guessing aside, however much stock Provexis choose to purchase from DSM, and we don't have to buy it all, IF will be aware of how much stock we should be able to sell before the best before date of the inventory.

"Under the terms of the DSM Transfer of Business agreement, the Company can elect in the first quarter of
2023 to purchase some but not all of DSM’s remaining stocks of Fruitflow at 31 December 2022, being a
decision which the Company will seek to make in the first quarter of 2023 once the Company has a clearer
understanding of (i) the amount of stock remaining at 31 December 2022, (ii) the best before dates of this
inventory, which are currently estimated to be favourable / long dated in light of recent production runs of new
Fruitflow material in 2022, (iii) likely customer demand in 2023 and beyond and (iv) the Company’s financial
resources at that time."

"Stability and storage
Fruitflow® II SD is sensitive to air, heat and light. The product may be stored for at least 36
months from the date of manufacture in the unopened original container and at a
temperature below 25°C. The ‘best use before’ date is printed on the label. Keep container
tightly closed. Once opened, use contents quickly and store below 25°C."
http://technicaldocuments.dsm.com/product_finder/technical_documents/DNP/level10/DNP_DNPNA_000000000005015118_PDS_en.pdf

So, I would guess that whatever stock quantity is purchased then they should be able to sell it within around 18 months to 2 years max.

Krusty, "And where is the evidence for this?"

The alliance agreement was a profit split so if ff wasn't making a profit we wouldn't have got any cash from DSM.

We just don't know what the profit split was.

No but Fruitflow was definitely making a profit from being sold in 55 countries.