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If masonic club involved i this it means they cannot be trusted de facto. If you imagine that future tax payer debt is a massive grain store then it was illegally opened up by GO and DC to only completely rescue their friends in banking and building/builder supply. At the same time the builder/supply/banker opened up a few very large shutes and sent the money/grain straight into their pockets.
Debt and reduced opportunities have been applied to a whole future generation. Oligarch and tax avoiders are accorded much more respect and favour by the system. AND NOTHING IS DONE!!
Look after yourselves . Better times will come when true British people are given resources to act. When the sacrifices of past generations are no longer disrespected.
I was thinking that the children of these estates need to have clubs/things to do no further than 10 mins walk away. to spend an hour say out of house it would be unreasinable to expect a 20min journey each way for example. So if builders not attending to that then they are double/triple not doing their best for next generation. Or maybe the directors wives would be happy with their children growing up with no happy involvement in anything?
Bit surprised assets have not been frozen incl directors. I expect FSA is not yet up to tackling the 'take it private fraud' which is prevalent and which has a large London network of tax avoiders involved. (SeeURA). The take private bit is difficult because it strikes towards the inequality at heart of financial system . Say for instance Crown estate or Duchy were forced be public and produce proper accounts and pay proper tax. Say for instance where Abramovich and others got the money to take things private. Say for instance how much tax Saudi paying, how much invested in progress rather than return and where they plan to list? (Brexit reason?) . Expect that's why Oct still trading and we relying on Americans to get to bottom of it
Don't worry tiny. SEC and FSA will ensure justice served on this tax avoiding network
i offer £1 for the banking licences
If it's private it means negotiations would take place via some bent lawyer with shareholders. The company would be Uber obstructive. Would increase hurdles and costs for shareholders and EVENTually offer them some crumb from the safety of a tax ghetto(haven!). This is why they had a bent plan to consolidate control after float and Nomad let it happen and Lenigas congratulated Barby " that's the way to build up a stake''. FSA and company and Nomad and all others involved will be ordered to compensate investors. This is a well known formula used by groups and states to steal from shareholders. Russian oligarchs used it. Lots of bent groups use it worldwide and then our military calls them Sir. When they invest tax free status is accorded. If criticised they muddy waters saying their country,culture, religion is being criticised
Guys check out OCT. The cavalry are coming (SEC, USA). Somebody said to me 'you can't win!). Let's see. In the red corner running off with an asset value 800mUSD - 3000m USD we have main Slava Medvedev (Russia, Virgin islands), Peter Redmond (Jersey), Melissa Sturgess (Jersey). So far silent on matter are judges of British state, Russian state, Tanzanian Republic, Israel state.
This project should have been up an running giving cheap Uranium to power world's 20% carbon FREE electricity.
second thoughts i'll take Rogers house in Guernsey. You don't mind if i value it low do you???
Thanks Thorndon for posting that. To me that exactly confirms the existance of a corrupt , premeditated plan to take back majority control after float. IT WAS THE BACK UP SO IF THEY HAD TO RUN THEY WOULD TAKE IT PRIVATE. So it was organised. So the nomad etc didn't act. Why does it take so long for authorities to act. I've been syaing this on here for years. The actions of this group ruined me. Meanwhile Fred Goodwin has a pension of 10k a week. Nomad and company can compensate us...... Thanks
with help of FCA ... Are they going to compensate investors for the fraudulent behaviour after float. I thought i was getting involved in a Lenigas checked out venture which was going to somehow get involved in banking and therefore coud be involved in doing banking differently because we all know how greedy they have been post 2008 and what a closed circle they seem to be and also how easily they walk us all into a recession , not because its good for the country, but because they can seize and resell a few choice properties and boost the balance sheet that way ( after a massive crippling tax payer bailout which smashed the building of the future economy/tech/jobs etc
DL needs to say on twitter where he stands. He and others bought my holding at knock down when i was forced out at outrageous loss to pay and equally outrageous tax bill.
Another con i've been involved over at URA and just to give you guys the heads up on delisting what happens is they can get any sort of goofed up valuations on the shareholder assets they like and they can pay themselves any way they want. Often money as well as shares to furher consolidate control. That one was organised by a gang but because i'm neutral and walked everywhere unarmed on my own (as Russians know and i enjoyed the random appearance of someone asking for directions to check if i spoke the language!- I don't) sometimes in quite dangerous other places for some reason i'm not allowed mention what that gang might be. Nor would i want to. That's up to them to live that way i suppose. Another word for it could be bullying
Well i think that nicely confirms all i've been trying to say here for quite a while. Ta x avoiders running/promoting/offering shares for investment to Uk tax paying investors ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED. It may be that authorities have finally caught up with them about the imo organised and premeditated plan to take control of the company after the public listing, the cancellation of the imminent dividend as ramped by DL, in order to suppress the Sp and the buying out of an investor in the float by RB at cost and the possible selling of shares at float by a connected investor just to help the Sp fall along. It was like they were pretending to go through the steps of becoming public just for the purposes of getting it past various agencies and then put in place the plan to rest control back again after the public listing.If the authorities have caught up maybe they are thinking it is better to hide as a private co and (no doubt) hiding or intending to hide in a difficult to get at tax avoidance ghetto (otherwise known as tax havens). There were clues in the Octagonal listing doc which i still have re previous loans to JG which were very favourably written off if thats the right way of putting it. Later he did same again at Oct.
I'll help you guys any way i can. Always nice to get a bit of positive confirmation. Think I'll continue my posts about PSN directors and other builders who paid themselves bonuses after the crippling tax payer bailout of their assets, lifestyles, futures. When it comes to abusing the tax payer these guys are in the JImmy S's league.
The belief that such as Oct are doing nothing wrong seems to go deep into their crooked world view and this probably needs to be fully documented and published. Who supports them. Who else they see getting away wth it which has then justified it to them in some way. etc. They are NOT 'in this together' with anybody
Tax avoiders should be banned from company directorships and major shareholder status because they cynically act against moral tax paying investors . You know the tax payer that pays for NHS and vaccines and research , libraries, public services etc and scrapes to invest savings while tax avoiders promise a bunch of lies, pay themselves with your funds, enhance their careers and lifestyles with your funds , buy political influence with your funds and laugh at you for choosing them as the ones to build a new economy or better banking (the licenses). Psychogas nightmare. God save HMQ - gonna pay any tax either ie there starts the message cheating is cool
I said what I wanted but you ignore point entirely. Was it all organised so major shareholders could consolidate ownership back to complete control levels after the RTo. Was this the pre med plan all along. Pretend to be a public company with shareholders because? Getting some licenses required it? Lenigas ramped this as paying a dividend ,as being a genuine growth story to get involved in, that he'd checked and put name to as like a kind of 'lead underwriter' but G and B had other ideas all along. Cancelled div, stalled interest, consolidated control above levels that would have been permitted at RTo while keeping share price low to do do ( and someone immediately sold straight after RTo to help matters- I ask politely again if it was insider or strongly connected).
Maybe it is being investigated because it was damn suspicious. Investors will be compensated fo all losses incl from extra interests or injury over past 4 + years. Separately Lenigas who has taken out hundreds of people in UK may survive by repeating he loves HMQ a few times
Forgot to say most involved are tax avoiders which is reason everyone else pays more. Austerity put up my bill 33% but due losses here that turned into 50% plus ongoing with fines and interest. Something has to be done to protect investors. Banning tax avoiders from any directorships could be long overdue start
Is anything going to be done about behaviour of Lenigas, Gun and Barby for allowing the ramping at 2x the upcoming float price. Investors immediately lost half their money. Also Lenigas said there would be imminent dividend. G and B etc cancelled that unilaterally which had effect of stagnating share price and interest in it. They then behind scenes used opportunity to consolidate their ownership of company above levels that would have been permitted at RTo by rules AND now can take co private at any time they want. In my experience shareholders should not trust that such people in this position will not do so. The idea that shareholders are ever part of a team is completely foreign imo
Need help to sue this network. Also to contact Tanzanian authorities to verify or deny that they were making things difficult. Anyway URA had the licensed the Russian gov really wanted because they were amenable to ISR extraction of the Uranium. The Russian Mtonya license that they bought off Aussies for 800m is not because it's to shallow. It was also originally inside a game reserve. They overpaid for it. Their license was tier 3 uplifted to surface but URA licenses had tier 1,tier 2 and deeper tier 3 all with 2or more layers of Uranium mineralisation. I believe URA did drill tier 3 but only reported on T1 and T2 and in the most minimal way. They then did nothing. They could have done own ISR pump test proof but didn't . They could have drilled to confirm extent of tiers along 36k corridor but didn't. They could have explained to market and drilled T3 but didn't. They did nothing. Russians reported successful ISR test on their property but nothing to explain the relevance to URA was said. At the same time there was an on going delay to renew URA licenses. Shortly after it was eventually renewed the major shareholder took the main asset of the company. A goofed up valuation was given over a tiny portion. But to take ownership he needed help from the network. Melissa pretended to have a good new direction for URA while licenses were purloined by major shareholder . Was pure bull. Steinepreis who they claim
not to know bought shares in Melissa's bull to make it seem someone believed it. It turns out Steinepreises know Warner's who brought in major shareholder into URA in first place. So now that they've stolen the licenses from original decade long URA shareholders what happend next? Fraud can be proved and licenses returned to original decade long shareholders by Tanzanian authorities. The concept that directors actually have to do their best for shareholders is upheld. Networks of whatever persuasion are acted against by authorities and they remain vigilant for them constantly. Neutral people should fully believe the market will fairly represent their interests
Then the company was taken over shortly after. If had to guess would say co contacted market maker and said 'clear book' please or mm asked should be clear book. Crooked anyway when idea was right on my part. But what's a grand between friends!! A_ Filtration Services.
Only later after we are ripped off by austerity, nothing for next generation is built, builders pay themselves crooked undeserved bonuses. I can just see teddy bear eyes questioning ,'what I did something wrong', corp tax avoidance, crown estate bonuses presumed, THAT one eventually says enough is enough.
Recommendations
Tax avoiders are not allowed be company directors
Corp tax avoiders get no gov help,subsidies and asap are substituted
If children benefit from trust funds they cannot be directors or advisors of any companies. This being to encourage the parents to not avoid tax.
The big landlords who made sure the bank bailouts would rescue their asset prices and portfolios are fined for delaying progress, enshrining inequality and endangering next generation, incl crown estate. This asset base being 50% of their assets become assets returned to state because they would normally have been lost in the crash, and that the state sell or borrow against these assets to build new economy and sufficient surplus green energy
It's a con for sure. I once had a stop loss 30% below on a company expected to be subject to a takeover. The bid somehow dropped for a millisecond on 0, yes zero volume and that was that. Croupier swept in the hand albeit cheating but you see they have rules allowing 'cheating'. I have complained to Revenue about these products being marketed as a way to have share ownership!! It is definitely not share ownership. The exchanges it seems argue it helps volume and it certainly helps spikes if people are being forced to buy back. Another element of the unfair croupier is that they can sometimes close a lot of positions if just one is out. I rember that TS was complaining about paying increased stamp duty on multi million property post 2008. Well it would be interesting how much corp tax he paid and maybe that's why the stamp duty increase was so much even after unfair and counter productive and backward and old wealth entrenching austerity taxes. Bit like the Nero boss asking for gov or tax payer help when they I believe avoid normal corp tax and are eminently substitutable via normal economics. So in short if you try options you could very well end up supporting tax avoiders especially if you need strong coffee afterwards!
Surprising that same monthly that bad news released coincides with 2m bonus . I think the bailout of property prices for all (not limited to 3 units/person) was very bad value for tax payer. This is becoming more clear every day as eg mid East oil money is being loaned against property prices (equity release) but jobs and ability to pay back reducing. So making a default more likely. So tax avoiders taking advantage doubly of sitiation. This is not natural economics and role of gov and state is to limit it not facilitate. This generation been badly let down morally by company directors, tax avoiders, bankers advising politicians, lack of pay cuts by establishment post 2008
and refusal of big landlords to suffer losses incl crown estate. All these people's first thought should have been for the next generations economy, health, safety and energy supply. It wasn't was it
So I don't know where this leaves the religions they all claim to respect?