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Shuvlin

You are right I don't know any better, I will repent all my sins, saying that it's Yom Kippur in a few weeks and that's when we are supposed to repent all our sins. It's going to be a busy day for me then!!

Going back to my post yesterday, I have been giving it a bit of thought, Jubilee and Nijinsky do have something in common. Their both flogging a dead horse!! OOPS !! sorry Mikie, Shuvlin , Gotreal and all you others, I know now how sensitive you are all. I have heard on the grapevine that JLP are going to merge with ENRON and will appoint Bernie Madoff as the new Chairman. They will also get financed by Fred Goodwin. Were all onto a winner here.

Sorry Hawkander, I made a mistake, it's not Meghan Markle, it's Big Ears and Noddy. They have just announced and TR7.

It was an upgrade on their little blue car

Hawkander

Well if you listen to most people on here and read most of the editorial and listen to most of the podcasts, we are a fantastic Company that is going to grow enormously in the next few months/ years. We can now leverage finance with the Copper or even the Chrome, we seem to be close to buying a refinery, we are so everyone says grossly over sold we are trading at much less than asset price, copper is destined to rise Chrome is strong PGM's are getting stronger and yet we are 5p. No one seems to be able to find out why other than there being a mystery seller, first it was fidelity, then someone else, then it was the guys who we did the last 2 deals with, then it was Meghan Markle, now someone has stated that Nijinsky was a major holder and now he's dead in Ireland somewhere the IRA are selling the shares.

On the other hand, the market maybe correct, who knows!!

Northern

I did not see that which is my mistake but if he was saying August in June/July and now he is stating 1st quarter it seems that he has a problem. I know you will sat relax it's just a month but the city don't like this type of reporting and no one on hear get's the point. It's called trust and transparency!! If you had a car hire Company and you said I will deliver the car at midday and you turned up at 3 o'clock and kept on doing it I or anyone else wouldn't use you again

Shuvlin

I really have to again disagree with how you think, you have proved time and time again that your view is skewered towards an odd assessment. Adding a unit to Thuste boosts production by 300,000 tons which is over 15% of production. If it were any other CEO they would sing from the rooftops about it as they can say they are in the top 2 producers of Chrome. Although I am loathed to mention it, you opinion on more than just JLP leaves many more questions than answers, however we are all allowed are own opinions it's just that I don't think you can back yours up with any logical points

Seis

Tat's all well and good and they probably wanted confirmation that it worked but you know as well as I

do that that is not how the market works or what they expect. If I was 12 days late to deliver a project it would have cost me a lot of money. I don't know why people always make excuses for shoddy management. It's amazing that you are happy with them dealing with your money and not be asking them to hold to their dates. It Makes a huge difference as people will say don't invest in them as they don't understand schedules.

Hi Gray1

Yes I thought Nelson was spot on with what he said, Thuste in June was on for August and July and that one of the problems that Leon has caused for himself. As far as waiting 9 months, I have been here since Braemore and to be honest waiting another 9 months doesn't really suit. I knwo everyone says that shares are a long term investment and I know that when you buy you take a risk etc etc but 2-3 years ago or even 12 months ago I didn't think we would be 5p and YES there is a FOMO but when there are circumstances that could have stopped SOME of this it is frustrating to have to look everyday at a pathetic situation

Lookingfor money

If you have purchased shares yesterday and they have not come up on the screen and it is over 24 hours ago then to me

that is price manipulation, why have they not shown it as it could change opinions. Now you may not think so but I am in a share that has dual listing and in the other county someone purchased a very high amount which made others enter.

Gray1

Your right, to be honest, it looks like we are a very long way from anything at the moment even after the Roan RNS.

I really would have thought that we would of heard about Thuste, not that it's a game changer as it isn't it adds which is great but I think we all want to hear that the timelines are being met, and that to be honest is the biggest problem to me, Yes the SP is being hit hard but I think that's because people still think we are a major PGM producer. Leon and Co have tried to establish us with Chrome and Copper but it seems to be falling on deaf ears. There seems to be a problem coming up and the Directors to me wanted to shroud that with Share purchases, I dream of Mikie and Co saying I'm wrong and I am trying to talk things down but the last time this type of fall happened was when we were 21p and then the wheels came of and that was because people knew about the PGM prices coming off. We didn't but they did, the clever ones that is. And this was compounded because we thought don't worry in the next 6 months we will be producing Copper, problem over, I don't think any of us thought about the Chrome helping us so much, I know Seis was keeping an eye on prices but we never thought that the Chrome would add $40m approx.

Hi Gray1

Interesting points regarding the future of Copper for us and how to get there. Regarding IRH, I have always looked at it as a ring fenced project that will return positive cash flow, of course it would be great to have 100% of it, but when you include the management costs which can become whatever they want to within reason we get about a 42%- 45% return and we will learn a lot from it. We will also tell the big Companies that we can manage these type of deals and probably ask more for it in the future. The cash from it will also help the artisan areas as well as the bigger things like another refinery when you consider that you can also borrow on that leverage as well. This is assuming that we are still here!!

If I were a big outfit I would really consider taking advantage of the price now to sweep us up, after all it won't be a big deal their eyes and I don't even think you will need a class 1 circular

Mornin all

There is an interesting article on Bloomberg this morning about SA Miners, Iron Ore mostly, their SP have been ht hard because of the slowdown in China and everyone is worried about it. Although the SA FTSE is up 14% they are down 40% plus.so there may be a case that JLP have been hit hard because of the sector as some people are so stupid that sentiment spreads across even if you are not in Iron Ore. Thoughts please

People seem to be now getting out at any cost, I'm sure it's nothing to do with the Company, it must be sentiment in the sector as well as panick selling.

Kalan

How ya doing, I thin it's now nailed on that most people in the city look at us as just a PGM producer like Sylvania.

The Company needs to vastly improve it's act regarding educating the market, to be fair they have tried but it's not hitting home. Much more needs to be done to change the spots on the animal. Regarding the Platinum Council, they have been saying for 2 years about the uplift in PGM prices, That's what they are paid to say, like any body that is financed by the producers in any commodity, they have no choice but to blow the trumpet but they don't know the same as most.

ISA man

That’s a fair thing to say but if you think I or any other responsible person would t someone say such a stupid moronic thing then I’m sorry you are wrong. I’ve said my bit and will move on as long as there are not other stupid unwarranted comments

I would prefer that they took the whole bloody lot out and put us out of our misery.

For all the speculating here on why the SP is like it is and I admit I probably have been the one making

the most noise, there seems to be no definitive pin point to it all. The last few weeks most have been going on about

Fidelity. Shuvlin has said that Leon mentioned something to Charles Archer about a forced seller or something similar

The share is apparently a sell as far as chartist are concerned, some say it's oversold, the quantity of shares traded over the last 2-3 weeks is awful and we are supposed to be No2 in the world for chrome, we are with IRh, we have now got Roan working we have nearly finished Sable, we hopefully have Thuste 2 and we are processing cheese on the moon

and no one give a damn. The share register is up the shoot as no one knows the truth, We have found out that Putin, Hitler and Idi Amin are now the main shareholders in the Company and the new Chairman is Dereck Trotter.

I've decided to take a 2 week holiday touring Syria lebanon and the Gaza strip for some quality peace time.

Nimrod

After the post from Jack Dorfan I looked at technical charts in the UK and SA but I freely admit that I have no clue what I am looking at. However, in the charts from S>A> underneath the graphs all they were talking about is the same as you mentioned, PGM's, No Chrome No Copper. Could it be that after all the hype and promotion that editorials and Podcasts and the Company has done that the problem regarding the SP is that everyone is still looking at us as a PGM producer.

ALL the charts say SELL medium and short term, which is the opposite to what most are saying. The question I ask is how does the Company put it right. RBC Capital aren't doing a very good job of it. The best thing that can happen is to be re-rated in a different sector other than mining. Maybe we must hope that the Chrome figures change the attitude but I think that unknowingly Nimrod has stumbled onto it if you link it with what chartist are looking at.

Please comment as I really think this is important because how can a Broker say to his client that a death star(whatever that is) has been created for JLP

Hi Shuvlin and Gray1

Hope you are both well and it's good to have a respectful conversation even if we do differ, which we must all accept.

I'm not trying to analyse my motives, I am here to make as much money as possible in the quickest way possible like everyone else. I put certain thins in my posts as I have often been told that people know what my motives are and they will keep it to themselves, which is why I stated what I did, I don't want anymore shares. Of course we must accept the delays, however, it's easy to say things after the event but if I was ordering something that was so important to the Company timeline and cash flow I would have explored a different way of getting the product if it was a Customs problem. It is also exciting to read Gray1 list of things that are to be completed, if I was an investor looking at this share with thoughts of getting in I would say what a great time to put some money into this Company as they have done all the hard work they are profitable they are in a new market and they are finishing projects in Chrome and Copper.

You have stated that the amount of shares traded have been terrible with the amount of upside that everyone is trying to justify. Again, I say, why? there are other Companies in not such a great position not even making money and there is more interest in them rather than JLP, Is it because of Africa, comms,lack of trust?, lack of transparency?, no interest in Chrome and Copper?, not believing the story? Still awaiting proof? It is also good that today Goldman Sachs say but British Shares, can someone point them in the direction of JLP, after all there are loads of editorial and podcasts saying that it's a great Company. This is not analysing me it's analysing the situation Regards

Hi Mikie

Hope you are well, I hope you understand that I really can't blurt out his name or anything else about him as he was surprised and some what annoyed that he was in the list as he like to be low key. I'm sure you understand but suffice to say he is a fascinating person and a really good charitable one as well. If I had 10% of his understanding and philosophy on life I would be a much better person.

Hi Shuvlin

I remember reading that article and was very invigorated by it as it confirmed to me the reason for being in JLP.

That was nearly a year ago, I ask myself what are we missing, as like you and everyone on this boar we are all very disappointed with the SP. I really try my best to look at things in a pragmatic honest way, no fluff or negativity, just looking at what it is that the situation says. Some or maybe all on this board may think I am being negative or trying to bring the price down for an entrance but this is truly not the case. On top of all of this there is now complications in trying to understand who is or who is not selling. I do however think that in normal circumstances you should always go by the Company's as that is what the share register is there for and it's the Company Secretaries job together with the FD to keep an eye out for things. Maybe we should as Gray1 has said not over complicate things and say someone is selling and until they stop nothing will happen. However, what maybe you and others are failing to grasp is what I have been saying. If the story is so good,which we believe it is, and the future is so good, which we believe it is, it may be rational to think that the SP would be performing better as more people would believe in the Company that less. I'm not saying that it will never turn, I hope for all our sakes it does. I have always thought that if an institution wanted out in a big way then the Company would move heaven and earth to accommodate such an exercise. So I try to be rational in my thinking regarding why if again as I say the story is so great that there are not many more forward or even backward looking people thinking that same as the journalist that wrote the article that you have attached. JLP are not under the radar,

We all hoped that when there was confirmation of Roan running which says to the market that the test bed for Copper has been proven there would be at least more activity and a greater SP. I know everyone says well you have to be patient, and we all have been, I don't want to chase a rainbow, and I think the majority of people feel and think the same way. Can anyone give me their thoughts that are not star spangled or aggressive because what I have said does not suit their purpose.

Shulvin

Firstly Good Shabatt to you, secondly, yes my brother in law is so wasted which is why he is in the Times top 2500 rich list.

Give me a break!! My post is now even more interesting now that Seis Thankfully has shed more light on the matter.

To me he is one of the very few here who adds concrete evidence on the Company be it good or bad and we can't do without him. It's a shame he has a bad opinion of me but no matter. We all have different opinions which makes a market. I don't remember hearing on the Charles Archer post that there was a seller that is holding things back, however I must admit I have severe Tinnitus and wear hearing aids as well so maybe I missed it. What I think my in-law was saying and he has a valid point is that if the share and the Company was so very good he would expect many more buys than sells and the price would be stronger. You say the market doesn't look ahead, and then say the magnificent 7 have come under scrutiny, that's maybe because the market is looking ahead. I suppose Nvidua dropped $269 billion because a Fund manager couldn't fart !!

Why do people always make stupid excuses. I am a big fan of the Company and it's processes. I am not a big fan of their comms or they way they try and pull the wool over our eyes but it's still a good Company. YES I fully accept I have FOMO.

I still dream that something great is going to happen but the truth is the truth. The is a big link missing in what we all think and what the situation is, because if the majority of the people were to think like us then the price would be better the sentiment would be better etc etc. That is the only factual thing that we can discuss as Seis has now proven that the last 3-6 months of what we thought a=was a big fund selling is incorrect unless the figures from the site are incorrect.

If they were people from the new deals that have been given about 50 million shares, that may be something but that should have been washed away by now, I am not trying to de - ramp, I don't want anymore shares as I own well over 4.5 million, in fact it may be nearer 5 million. So I think I can talk from experience having been in this Company for over 10 years. You said that it was undisputable that Fidelity was selling, maybe now you would like to reconsider and come up with another plausible reason.