Oh Dear...14 Apr 2022 01:39
@Oligarch_No1 re your post (1441) "Nato should of gone in and give the Russians a fecking good hiding !"... yes maybe they should have done. Look, I realise that you support the plucky Ukrainians but even you must realise that they have been set up by NATO, the European Union ( a misnomer if ever there was one... Union, really?) and even more so by the Deep State Vicky Nuland and (very) sleepy Joe Biden. This is quite clearly a proxy war betwwen the Russians and the US Deep State. It could very easily have been avoided but certain parties chose to pour petrol on the fire.
I was in the army in 1984... at a time when the BAOR could muster a whole army Corps with 3 Armoured Divisions... some reading this will know but for those of you that don't that equates to 900 odd tanks. Yes, nine hundred! Want to know what we currently have... well it ain't 900 that's definite! the old Chieftain might not be up to the standard of todays technology but it had a decent gun and good armour... only let down by poor mechanical reliability. Any REME here will tell you how good the engine was! anyway, I'm digressing. On the North Plain where most of our kit was... we were expected to hold Ivan up for about 3 to 4 days at best. after that it was NBC time when things would get... interesting let's say. The point I'm making is that if Russia goes all out in any conflict it will get hot very quickly. Do not be deceived or fooled by what you are being told by Western media about the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the combat capability of it's military. What is happening there is a fraction of what they could employ should they want to. It's the same with the Americans. Sadly we have to disregard the remaining NATO countries including the UK. in any major conflict today... in Germany, what is left of our once significant Armoured Divisions would now in all likelihood be completely destroyed in 96 hours. We were farked in the 1980s with all that we had... now. DEAD. Don't misconstrue what I write as I do it from a BAOR standpoint and not from the whole of NATO with all it's resources. Even though we were all told that Ivan had 5h1te kit and was pi55ed-up most of the time we still knew the 'real truth' of what we faced. Remember back then it was only 4o years previous that 'they' had done all the donkey work knocking out hardened Wermacht all the way to Berlin and more besides. i'd done enough logistics simulations to know that if it kicked off that it would have gone hot within a week and that we planned to launch them before Ivan.
So, if I were you I'd review your, "Nato should of gone in and give the Russians a fecking good hiding !" statement, do a bit more research and see how much of a 'hiding' we could give them.
I hope that wise heads prevail, soon and that the fighting will stop soon, that is my sincere wish.
DB