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I see Goldman Sachs gave a price target of £20. Well I'll predict this doesn't have a cat in hells chance of £20 for a year hence. People on here saying but & put in a drawer & come back in 2 years. Well good luck with that. The dividend will be cut imo or a rights issue will be announced to readdress the balance sheet, or both over a period. Carry on burying your head in the sand. This will just drifts along, like Vodafone, Tesco, Sainsbury's & all the banks. All once paid handsome dividends & top heavy share prices. Where are they now. Drifting along. Every company in the world is based on making profits.all the aforementioned companies made big profits, then bang. With exception of HSBC, all the others cut dividend & share price plummeted, never to return, in some cases, I E Lloyds & Barclays 12 years later their still drifting along. The coronavirus on its own would have been bad enough, but the Russian v Saudi's clash will see the cuts I've been preaching come to pass. BP too, eventually will follow suit. When , not, if.

Goldman Sachs reiterates there is a tooth fairy & a father Christmas. Get real.

There you go again telling me what I should do. I'll carp on as much as I want. Am I telling people on here what to do, no. So please don't tell me what to do . I make predictions. People, no bullies don't like that. So they belittle me. Whatever people wish to do, you do. But please don't tell me what I should do.

Then choose away. That's what makes a message boards. Doves & bulls. I have no problems with other people's opinions. Good luck to them. It's just they can't stomach mine. If I wish to post my opinions over + over that's my choice. Your perfectly entitled to do likewise. The problem arises when bullies don't agree with what I think. Well sorry. I don't agree with your sentiments.

4, 5 years ago shell was making huge profits. With a cash rich balance sheet. Shell bought bg group. Gas prices have plummeted. Fast forward 4 years and shells profits have declined somewhat. Shell as gone down during the last 4 updates. What makes you think the next 1 will offer much respite. Oil prices smashed. Oil companies in USA the worst performaning shares . If you aren't doing any good in America you sure as hell ain't gonna do good anywhere else. Keep kidding yourself. Anyone who thinks this will fully recover from here is totally deluded. All's you here is keep topping up for the dividend. Then 2 weeks later the share price as plummeted even more. Which part of that don't you understand.

Yes, it will be known as the day the dividend was cut or banished. What's that saying about death & taxes. Well you can add the dividend cut to that list. Of course many on here will carry on putting their head up their hole. When my prediction comes true, let's see who's brave enough to show their face. No footsie company with falling profits & a beaten up share price is gonna pay a 10 dividend for too long.but of course I'm negative & haven't got a clue, have i.feel free to argue, but as I told you way back when you'll all come around to my way of thinking , just like on Vodafone.

Your comments give me such a laugh. How totally insecure you appear to be. Having a go at people who give opinions that don't correspond with yours. What a bully you are. It just makes me more resolute in my determination to post my opinions, that you can't handle. Behaviour indicative of a bully & a child. There is no big break out from here. These depressed prices will become the norm. When coronavirus plays out, to which no one knows when. Many shares will never fully recover to their high levels. This share will imo be one of the causalities. Stock markets will be at all time highs one day, but some shares will not recover & given shell isn't pulling in great profits in oil or gas it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the outcome. Enjoy your dividend, because the sand is slipping through the eggtimer on the dividend imo. I once told anyone who'd listen Chelsea would win the champions league in August 2012 & them laughing in my face. Yes, with the then villa boas as manager. They weren't laughing 9 months later , as 1 by 1 they came round to my way of thinking. I'm predicting the same here. Enjoy your barbed posts, at my expense. Because when my predictions come to pass, you will be no where to be seen. Like all bullies.

Well , time will tell. Your comments are water off a ducks back. Let's see who has the last laugh. It wasn't all the Vodafone shareholders who took the same petty attitude as yours. Where are they now, I wonder. Motley fools gave Vodafone the kiss of death 3 years out of 4 by tipping them as a share tip of the year. Quester too , said all the same crap. Brokers & analysts predictions are in the main crap. Scores of them predicted when Vodafone was £2 20 , prices of £3. Only 1 predicted year on year, bereneberg, a price of £1 10. That was 3 years ago. Vodafone £1 20 last year. The parellels with Vodafone are there for all to see. You have your opinions, I have mine. But when this doesn't go back to £26 & when I believe the dividend will be cut around about 2 years scope, let's see how many of you put your head above the parapet. On Vodafone board it was zero. Time will tell.

I see motley Fools have spouted the usaul guff about how this is just a temporary blimp. And in a few months everything will be back like a garden of roses. Yeah right. 8% divi they say. Well let's see how long that continues. This is the same crap them & quester spouted about Vodafone over the years. And look how that turned out. Giant company , great balance sheet, great yeild, etc etc etc . Anyone expecting a huge breakout from here anytime from here, good look imo. OPEC meeting may offer some small comfort in the near term, but the coranacrisis is far from over. Next month's update already being talked of as poor, so can't see much solace there. A few on the advfn board saying it will be soon back to £26 & oil over $65 . Well. 1 word, errrr no.

Oh , I wondered when some one who thinks their superior to others, would surface. Who are unbelievable in their pettiness in pointing out grammar & spelling errors. How I pity you. I've had all this before over on the Vodafone thread. How sad your must be.
People just can't abide someone having a so called negative opinion. Well tough. It I came on here predicting great success , I'm be welcome with open arms.
Well sorry these are & no amount of bullying will make me change my opinions.
It's a matter of when shell cuts it dividend. Give it time. Maybe a rights issue. Maybe both. Mark my words. If I'm wrong then I'll be the first to say so. But I won't be.
As for president tramp he as been remarkably quiet regards coronavirus . I find it amazing he hasn't been tweeting morning, noon & night. But more remarkable is no one's blamed president tramp for the coronavirus outbreak.
As for my age, that's none of your business. But if I am 18, it's at 15 points above your I Q.

I'm to much down now to sell. So hopefully SP will bottom out then hopefully the dividend will hold for a least 6 more dividends. If it gets back to £20 before then I will then consider my position.

I find it absolutely hilarious that there are some totally deluded people on her who think CEO van buerdon will care if he's CEO if divi is cut. Are you mad. He will do what he has to do. He will get huge rewards come what may.
Vodafone CEO said on arrival said he planned to grow divi . Nick price is it. A few months later it's slashed. Dave Lewis came into the mess that is Tesco & stopped divi before he got his feet under his desk. It's a job. Their is no sentiment. It's cut throat. Please live in the real world , as hard as that is for some of you to do. Van burden doesn't give a toss , what as to be done will be done. Ask yourself 1 question, is this the bottom, errr no.

Before the supermarket price war where Aldi & lidels kicked the crap out of tesco., Their share price was £3 60 ISH I recall with a good dividend. No where near that dividend now or share price. Ditto at Sainsbury's, where share price was nearly £4. Share price now down around 40%, the same amount as the dividend was cut. Once a company cut the dividend based on profits it doesn't recover , but just drifts along , as Tesco & Sainsbury's prove. The banking crisis saw off alliance & Leicester, Bradford & bingley , Northern rock with investors losing billions. Barclays & Lloyds now in the drifter category. Once paid over 30p dividend. What do they pay now. Their'll never gonna recover to those share prices or dividends. HSBC laying off staff galore. Banks can't make any huge profits. If interests rates are put up by B O E OR FED, there soon reduced as banks realize people can't find the extra money on their loans or morgage. Is not rocket science. I recall interest rates of 5% on 1 year bank accounts 15 years ago. Them rates are not coming back in our lifetime. Nor will Barclays , Lloyds, Tesco, Sainsbury's achieve their high share prices or previous dividend payout. Unfortunately that's the road ahead I see for oil stocks. Let's hope I'm wrong for all our sakes. Where would the share price be without the buy backs.

Well, at least it's not down today. Mind you it's early yet. This I my take for what it's worth going forward.
When I held Vodafone, yes I know yawn yawn, the price of £2 meant you could sleep at night. The second it fell below £2 an unease fell on the shareholders. Well for shell that price is £20 imo.
Stock markets go up to go down. In truth since president tramp was elected stock markets have surged. But on close inspection, the truth is it's been mainly off the back of the FAANG stocks, with a few others, Tesla, beyond meat etc etc.
When stock markets rise & they will many shares won't ride with it. And this will lag the risers by some way. Every share I've owned follows this pattern. Does well for a while, good dividend, ride out the falls, keep topping up. But there always comes a time when push comes to shove. And that's now imo. I'm not saying this won't see £24 & above again, but in what time frame. There's little buffer now from any bad news. This is a slow slide to levels that usually the S P doesn't fully recover. That's my view.

Ask yourself 1 question. Is this the bottom, errrrrr , no. I think these lower prices will become the norm. £22 looks a long long long way off from here

Yes no & shell did indeed maintain their divis then, but they had huge cash reserves on the balance sheet. Profits our failing update upon update. When the gulf of Mexico oil disaster happen BP got rid of the dividend. It's not rocket science. BP paid out huge claims, so the dividend is the 1st things CEP's will ditch.

It's pure Symantes. Whatever the sector, the reasons are not important. The only thing that's is the common denominator is in all the company's I listed when profits slumped the dividend was slashed or went. It's a simple black & white scenario. Profits slump, divi cut sooner rather than later. Are shells profits falling, yes. Does there look to be an immediate turn round, error no. Maybe the buybacks will stave off a divi cut in the short term. But if profits continue to fall at current levels, there's 1 certain thing. A divi cut. That goes for any company. I think BP is in a similar boat, just further from the iceberg, due to their lack of exposure to gas. They will cut as well imo. All the banks , bar HSBC, got rid of divis in 2007. HSBC latest 40. Ooo jobs cuts don't orger well for their Divi either imo. It looks like when not if there too imo.maybe I'm a madman. But sometimes , history shows if only people had listened to his rantings. Let me be straight no one would be happier for me to be 100% wrong. I told my brother this would not hit £27 this year. Well the year high last year was £26 47 roughly. And year low £21, 43 roughly. That means it need to find another £2, 50 this year. I think I can safely say I'm right & it's only February.

No, that's why I'm certain going forward here of what I predicted. This always served me well.

Berenberg, buy, £26 80 , yeah right. This will not get anywhere near that imo this year.
UBS £24 50, maybe but will need a middle East crisis to get oil price back up a lot from here.each day that passes £24 & I'd be ecstatic with that this year. Time will tell.

Hi, hope your good.
Yes BP did indeed raise the dividend. Why, because the CEO was going. With a big pay off I'm sure. He's not in the firing line anymore.Replaced by a Looney. Need i say more.
Your missing the point of Vodafone completely. Let me be clear. It's simple. I held Vodafone , Tesco, Sainsbury's, Barclays, lloyds, . All these companies had different falling profits. Their from 3 different sectors. But the common denominator is when the crap hit the fan & profits slumped , the dividend either disappeared or was slashed. Oil, find it , pump it, but here's the crux of my argument, that applies to all the above companies. Yes sell it. But the price of oil keeps plummeting as does gas btw. So as with all the above companies when they can't sell their products at high prices & as soon as profits fell continually the dividend was gone or slashed. It's simple. The small shareholders will bare the brunt. No company on the footsie 100 will pay an 8 to 10 % dividend while profits continually plunge.