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Does anyone know the exact date the final dividend conversion date is. I know the dividend is o.47 cents, but she'll give the exact amount to be paid, when they take the average over a week. Dollar conversion to sterling of o.47 is nearly 0.36.5 ATM. So hopefully it will be over 36p dividend when the final amount is declared.
Still holding over £19, but as soon as I top up it will plummet down , I'm sure.
Well b p pay a better dividend + up it b4 the last couple e o Dudley left. Their update seems very similar to shell. So other than that , I'm unsure. Shell seems to be holding above £19, but I know the minute I top up it will plummet down .
This is now a definetly going well below £19. With apples warning regards coronavirus, it will fall more when Dow opens. I've been waiting to top up from £21 down. But each time the macro news gets more bleak. Will revise at £18 40 ISH. But that may be high a price going forward. Best hope this year is around £24 50ish & that's a huge rise from here.
I think the fall will continue when Dow opens at 2 30 pm. Will take a gamble below £19, which now looks a certainty. Oil & gas prices falling most weeks, so will cut in to profits. Gonna take something to get it going back up above £20, it seems.
Will open up down 36p ISH in morning as ex dividend
Be very happy if it doesn't go below £19, but perhaps a forlorn hope imo. Will top up around that mark, but may be throwing good money after bad. Time will tell. OPEC meeting in march may bring some relief, but where will the S P be then I wonder.
Let's hope the oil prices surges. We certainly need something to push this up after going ex dividend on Thursday. I will probably take a gamble when S P hits £18 75, but depends on the macro news doing the rounds then. Someone needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat. Oil is very difficult to predict, so you never know what's around the corner.
Nice rise so far today, though edgng down. Nothing worse than when footsie surges, but your share doesn't rise with it. Dow futures up, so hopefully will gain a little when it opens. Any buffer is welcome.
I see BP's earnings were deemed poor. But raised dividend. But c e o is leaving. Probably b4 the real brown stuff hits the fan, I guess.
But a gain is a gain, so let's be pleased at any little gains over the next few weeks for shell.
Hi, well a your half right. I did indeed cut my losses on Vodafone around £1 80 a share & told all on LSE Vodafone board it would plummet, the dividend would be cut & it may never be £2 again. Only to be derided. Their not laughing now, are they. I wish I had plummed for apple, but chose shell
As I've said, Barclays, invesnys, Tesco, Sainsbury's & Vodafone all did really well for a while, then bang, the share price plummeted & all dividend slashed. None are at any where near the high price they once were. The parellels with shell now, make me believe it's a matter of when, not if dividend will be cut& a rights issue for good measure , both within 2 to 3 years. But I could be hopelessly wrong. Time will tell. I wish I had the guts to cut & run here, bit it's very early days, as I say. But if, and I stress if, if shell gets to £25 this year I will cut & run.but when I get this feeling in my gut I fear £25 is a long long long haul from here imo. Feel free to disagree.
I think your missing the point. Yes, my share buying as often been poor, but the salient point is all the things been quoted on here & other shell message boards , are the exact same things that were turfed out on Tesco's, Sainsbury's, Barclays, Vodafone, chat sites & look at them now. I recall apple being $1 75 dollars about 18 months ago & Vodafone being £1 87 a share & people saying it's a once in a lifetime chance to fill your boots. Well Vodafone plummeted to £1 20ish, while apple is now well over $300 a share.. well I knew apple was a screaming buy & Vodafone a screaming sell. But no one on Vodafone sites listened. Time will tell if she'll is a apple or a Vodafone of a share, but I know what I think.
I have huge respect for those holding shell being so positive about the future. Great company, great divide, great cash flow, great balance sheet,. But there the same quotes I got from posters on the Vodafone sit 3 years ago, where I predicted the share price fall. That's been in the doldrums for nearly 2 years & the parellels to shell problems now, are huge imo. I could be totally wrong. But it doesn't happen often.
While in early January I was really glad was £23 & above I had no doubt it wouldn't reach the £24 50 I need to sell my next tranche of shares. But I at least there was a buffer to the feared results . And knew they would drag down the S P . Compounded by the coronavirus. God know how low it would be if it hadn't been for the Iraq v president tramp spate in December. You can top up to average down, but that as never worked when I owned Tesco, Sainsbury's, Barclays , Vodafone, btr sieve (invesnys). So I have a terrible feeling history will repeat itself.
Yes, I was thinking that they paid the dividend through the 2016 period. But as I see it, the oil industry as never faced so many macro problems as it as to now & beyond. The dividend may last 2 years, maybe, if we're lucky. But beyond that period if things don't pick up & change drastically, I feel a divi cut or rights issue is a good possibility within a timeframe of 2 to 3 years. Sorry, but that's how I see it. Eventually on the stock market the same thing happens to most shares you own long term, unless your exceptionally lucky imo.
Hi, trump45. I admire & like your positive outlook. It's at the total end of the spectrum from my own. Whilst in normal trading conditions for shell, your investment advice is spot on. But I believe that oil & energy companies are now & going forward face much more difficult challenging conditions. So update , upon update profits are falling, due to lots of different reasons. So historically this would be a great topping up opportunity. But buy today & in a few weeks your holding will be in arrears alot more than the dividend you'll receive.. Theirin lies the problem. Will shell pay a divi of 8, 9, 10%, not if these conditions persist. I can only see some big tension in oil regions , or rumours or truth of a merger of companies that can get this share back in the regions of £27 imo . It's only 1 months since this was above £23, so perhaps I'm a little premature in my views. But theirin I feel lies this dilemma. I've held Barclays over £6, where is it now, ££1 40, . I've held Tesco at £3 65, where is it now. £2 50, Sainsbury's at £370, £210ish now. Vodafone at £2 40, now £1 50. And a few others & all the above companies have slashed dividends. The parellels are there now for shell. Falling profits & no end in site. The only good things are shell have never cut the dividend & oil is a very violatile industry, where things change extremely quickly. Time will tell.
Well, today so far as to be a bonus, as many predited a big fall as the China markets open today after their new year. Though the government there pumping in billions of money to prop it up. Below £19 50 by Friday I suggest.
When it goes ex dividend next week, it will fall another 36ish pence, I think, though that's not a certainty. No end in site to this coroonavirus. So it's gonna drag the markets down. It can't go on forever. Sooner or later, coronavirus can't be the driver of the markets. But it's a how longs a piece of string.i think it's looking at £18 60ish after it goes ex dividend. Can't believe the thicko broker's & analysts are still predicting £26 this year. Don't see that at all. My guess for what it's worth is £24 75 ish, this year. As we stand here today. I'll top up if the news picks up, on all oil related news. To most topping up is a no brained, but then they come on here & say their investment keeps selling off, that's the dilemma.
Indeed, he is. But I seem to remember him buying Tesco shares a while back & taking a huge loss when he sold. I held Tesco too & got stung. No one is immune to stock market meltdown. Oil is in near crisis, if you believe the rhetoric coming out from USA. Stock markets hate fear. Maybe you will make a quick buck over the coming months if you get in at the lows. But long term, people waiting for £24 & above will realise it's a long long long way back from here. I remember saying when Vodafone was £1 87 it may never get back to £2 only to be derided. They are not laughing now are they. The parellels are huge. Once a sector is poor in USA the writing is on the wall. 1 by 1 most will come around to my way of thinking, me thinks.
I feel we've got 2 years to go before the brown stuff hits the fan & van burden will get in the real world, instead of giving corporate answers to dividend questions. some may be able to cut their losses to a minimum. Doubt I'll be that lucky. As I always say time will tell, but they don't call me mystic don for no reason.