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There is a very detailed article in today's Times relating to the Kansas City Police Department's use of Peregrine AI which has integrated 12 existing data base systems .

This instantly accessed information has revolutionised police work

It costs $450000 a year and is currently being used by 353 departments..

7 UK Constabularys are currently in discussion with Peregrine

Napalm, try and improve your comprehension rather than commenting on a typo.

It's you are from the verb to br i e I am, you are, he/she/it is

So it's you are letting yourself down.

Your is possessive, your house, your family, your profession.

I would like to think yiur level of aviation knowledge is higher than your English comprehension, which is around that of an 8 yr old

Napalm, as negative as uou possibly can be, it's not affected the share orice has it.

Why don't yiu root around for an explosion on a UK nuclear sub, you know, something that really would,

Timmy, only your brain could connect a shooting which you know WASN'T at tge White House could possibly lead to a dip in Rolls-Royce share price

So out of curiosity, so board members can attempt to understand how your cognitive processing functions, pkease explain your thought process.

NCTrade, we all want an rnd to the problems with Iran, but let's get real.

Until the issue of Iran's enriched uranium is completely resolved, this issue isn't.

Iran needs to understand that it can use uranium in reactors to generate oower, but enrichment to produce nuclear weapons will not be tolerated.

So, kick the can down the road, rebound Rolls-Royce share price, but you haven't solved the problem

Gravy, you can't just decide to post you are predicting a raise, this isn't X and you are not a teenager.

This thread is for adults who explain post and rationality.

It's not a Matad thread.

I'm here solely because he is.

If he sees prospects, i trust his judgement

This is an AI answer as to why he's here.

Here’s the honest answer based on what’s actually available (and what isn’t) — because this is one of those areas where the absence of disclosed numbers tells you something important.

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1) Andrew Roughan’s salary at Plexal

❗ Hard fact:

There is no publicly disclosed CEO salary for Andrew Roughan.

That’s not unusual — and here’s why:

Plexal is privately owned / quasi-public innovation company

Not listed → no requirement to publish executive pay

No filings showing CEO compensation

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What we can realistically infer

Using UK benchmarks for similar roles:

Innovation hubs / gov-linked scale-ups of this size typically pay:

£120k – £250k base

Possibly bonus linked to programme delivery

Supporting context:

Mid-level roles at Plexal are ~£35k–£40k

Senior tech/government ecosystem CEOs in London:

Usually well below FTSE exec levels

But above standard SME salaries

👉 Realistic estimate:

~£150k–£250k total comp

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Key insight (important)

He was not leaving a £1m+ CEO job.

This was: 👉 A mission-led, ecosystem role, not a high-cash corporate position.

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2) Plexal valuation / “capitalised at”

This is where most people misunderstand the situation.

❗ There is NO formal market capitalisation

Because:

Plexal is not listed

It’s a hybrid entity:

innovation consultancy

government programme delivery platform

workspace / ecosystem

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What we can anchor on

Revenue / economic footprint indicators:

Supported startups generating £1bn+ revenue collectively

Delivered major government programmes (e.g. £13.5m cyber programme)

But: 👉 That is ecosystem output, not Plexal’s own revenue

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Realistic valuation range (inferred)

Based on:

Similar UK innovation hubs

Government-backed accelerators

Consultancy + programme operators

👉 Likely enterprise value:

£20m – £100m equivalent (very rough)

Not:

A unicorn

Not even a typical venture-backed scale-up

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3) Now compare that to Defence Holdings

This is where it gets interesting.

At Defence Holdings PLC:

He receives:

142.9 million warrants (~6% of company)

Strike prices:

1.38p / 3.45p / 6.9p

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What that means in plain English

If the company succeeds:

At 10p share price → stake worth ~£14m

At 20p → ~£28m

At 50p → ~£70m

👉 That dwarfs anything he was earning at Plexal

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4) The real answer to your question

You asked: Why leave an established company?

Now you can see it clearly:

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Plexal (old role)

Salary: ~£150k–£250k (estimated)

Valuation: unclear, modest

Upside: limited

Role: ecosystem builder

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Defence Holdings (new role)

Salary: likely similar or slightly higher

BUT:

Massive equity upside

Direct exposure to

Gravy Train so after your analysis, what is the average weekly burn, hiw much do we have in available liquidity, therefore how long will it last?

If there's a fund raise, how much are you predicting?

Ste you posted this at 20.19

That's exactly what DH are piloting with Gloucester

You must know that that is not true.

DH are not piloting intelligence analysis, they are piloting criminal compliant court reports from video and voice interviews.

Why are you saying it's replication when you know the met is piloting criminal analysis.

It's you who is in denial and being disingenuous

Ste, the Met and Gloucestershire police are using 2 completely different systems.

You posted that it was the same as DHvwith Gloucestershire, I'm just saying it replication, you must know that

People can post positive or negative, but at keast be truthful.

To say that its a replication is disingenuous.

Ste, Palantir's involvement with the Met and Health Authorities is cause for concern.

Uk control over any data system is in my opinion as important as Sovereign control over your intelligence gathering and analysis

Ste1347, I certainly didn't come into alrt for any police contracts, why?

I came for Defence contracts.

There's only 1 MOD, with the Police Authorities, there are 43

Imagine 43 different committees to negotiate with?

Ste be very careful, thisxisxwhat causes problems on social media.

You've posted that Palantir's program with the Met is the same as DH with Hlos police, but it's not is it

Glos police is simply using a program of converting VIdeo and Audio interviews into Court acceptable criminal reports..Show me where the Met systemvdoes this.

The mets system is intelligence integration of many other programmes.

Why do you think they are the same?

🚨 Metropolitan Police & Palantir – What’s Actually Being Negotiated?

The Metropolitan Police is currently in talks with Palantir to deploy a powerful AI-driven intelligence analysis platform. While no full contract is confirmed yet, trials are already underway—and this could represent a major shift in how policing works in London.

🧠 What is it?

A system designed to:

• Combine data from dozens of police databases into one platform

• Automate parts of intelligence analysis

• Use AI to identify patterns, links, and risks in criminal activity

⚙️ How it works:

1. Data Integration

Pulls together crime reports, custody records, intelligence logs, and more into a single dashboard.

2. AI Pattern Detection

Links people, locations, devices, and events—helping uncover hidden networks or suspicious behaviour.

3. Automated Analysis

Can generate timelines, map relationships, and suggest investigative leads—reducing manual workload.

4. Future Potential

Could evolve into predictive policing (identifying risks before crimes happen).

🧪 What’s already happening?

• Trial contracts already in place

• Used internally to detect misconduct, fraud, and corruption

• Early systems have flagged hundreds of potential issues

🎯 What this could become:

• A real-time intelligence “engine” for all London policing

• Faster investigations and case-building

• Possible integration with national systems

⚠️ Why it’s controversial:

• Privacy concerns over large-scale data use

• Risk of AI-driven bias or “automated suspicion”

• Reliance on a private US tech firm for sensitive policing infrastructure

🧩 Bottom line:

This isn’t just another IT upgrade—it’s a shift toward AI-assisted policing, where machines help drive investigations, not just support them.

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Worth watching closely. This could redefine how intelligence-led policing operates in the UK.

Https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/apr/23/thousands-call-on-uk-ministers-to-cut-ties-with-us-tech-giant-palantir

The honest answer is: it depends what you mean by “using Palantir”—because there are three different levels of adoption across the NHS.

1) Active use (most relevant)

As of early–mid 2026, Palantir’s NHS platform (the Federated Data Platform) is being used by roughly:

~120–125 NHS hospital trusts in England �

The Times

England has about 205 trusts, so that’s around 60% adoption at the trust level.

👉 This is the clearest “how many are actually using it” figure.

2) Wider NHS organisations (broader definition)

The platform is reported as being used by ~150 NHS organisations (including trusts, ambulance services, etc.) �

hsj.co.uk

With another ~50–60 signed up to join.

👉 So total committed/using organisations ≈ 200+

3) Signed-up trusts (not all fully live)

NHS England lists ~160 trusts that have signed up to the platform �

NHS England

👉 Important:

“Signed up” ≠ fully implemented

Some are delaying or barely using it

Bottom line

~120+ trusts actively using it

~150 NHS organisations using it in total

~160 trusts signed up (pipeline/partial use)

Key nuance (often missed)

Adoption is not uniform:

Some trusts rely heavily on it (capacity planning, waiting lists)

Others have minimal or no real usage despite being signed up �

Ste1347, the Met and Gloucestershire police are completely separate police forces.

There's no connection.

AI spy program roots out hundreds of rogue police officers https://mol.im/a/15763899 via https://dailym.ai/android

An AI discussion

🇬🇧 Defence Holdings x Gloucestershire Police – What’s it REALLY worth?

A lot of noise around this pilot — here’s the reality, stripped down 👇

🔍 What’s happening?

is running an AI pilot with

👉 Purpose:

Automate police interview reporting (ROVI/ROTI)

Turn audio/video into court-ready written reports

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💡 Why it matters

- Huge admin burden in UK policing

- Thousands of officer hours wasted

- Clear ROI if automation works

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📊 Market size (UK only)

- ~45 police forces

- £50k–£400k per force annually

👉 Potential:

- £1.5m (slow uptake)

- £6m+ (credible rollout)

- £12m+ (near full adoption)

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💰 Valuation impact

Current est. mcap: ~£25m–£35m

- 🟢 Pilot fails → little change

- 🟡 Partial rollout → £50m–£70m (≈2x)

- 🔵 Full rollout → £100m+ (3–5x)

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🚀 The REAL upside

If this works, it’s not just policing:

➡️ adoption

➡️ use cases

➡️ Export to allies (Five Eyes / NATO)

👉 That’s how this becomes a £100m+ story

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⚠️ Key risks

- Must meet court-grade evidence standards

- Slow UK procurement

- Competition (Big Tech / Palantir-type players)

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📈 What moves the share price?

1. Pilot success ✅

2. First paid contract 💰

3. Second police force signed (critical inflection)

4. National rollout discussion 🇬🇧

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🧠 Bottom line

✔️ Real pilot

✔️ Real problem

✔️ Scalable if proven

BUT

👉 Still binary at this stage

👉 Not yet priced for national rollout

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🎯 Investor take

- Base case: solid 2x potential

- Bull case: 3–5x+

- Bear case: limited downside but slow progress risk

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This is early-stage… but genuinely strategic if it lands.

Be even better in 2 years when they are £2 with a company capitalisation of £1.5 billion.

Why were you so late coming to the party?