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Charging Bare, which of your filtered posts explains your stance on what those 5.2p trades are?
I don't want to read both and find you skipped the challenge despite criticising someone as severely as is possible for you! If you don't know - stf up and leave it for someone who might!

It is surely an administrative error? But where?????? That was the original question I think?

Smallfry, you are off the hook!
The moron of this board was attacking one of the top posters here - as usual the most inappropriate decision any fool could make! It comes easy to him.
And ,even more predictably , the stupidest question ever (was a ASX trade reported on LSE trades in the wrong currency , of course!!!! ) is claimed by thicko and does he go on to give his idea of why these 5.2p trades are appearing/reversing fairly regularly!!!!!!!

Does he fLIck ! The arrogant little tLIrd , as ever, does not understand what is happening!

And his uncalled for attack on MM , perhaps the most popular poster on here, was not done for several days because "little big man" was frightened that the sp had finally reached it's true value! He waits , on here and on ADVFN where he is wasting his subscription, by totally ignoring an event that has sold millions of shares since whether at 9c or 6c , or 2p or 5.2p!

There is a picture of little big man on this link.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Big_Man
He is surrounded by all his friends and his belongings. Charging bear suggests a new moniker for moron!

Explain those bogus 5.2p trades, or why they are real, Charging Bare , or forever hold your peace!

So let go of your piece, and stop shaking it, you caber thrower!

For your education, little big man, there are plenty of people with their Xmas present money tied up in depreciated TLOU shares - helped by your de-ramping over the years - who have been able to get the money for little Jimmy's Scalextric or Iphone-13 back.

Others have been waiting to leave given the chance to break even BUT FOR ALL OF THOSE THERE HAVE BEEN BUYERS WHO CANNOT BELIEVE THEY ARE GETTING IN ON A FALLING PRICE!!!!
The jammy newcomers won't have to wait for the number of years many of us have been tormented for, before they see a profit - good luck to them and all existing shareholders , bar one!

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Cheers Appi, I'd never seen carbon dioxide wriiten as COO before!

And then Chief Operational Officer made more sense :O)

ASX call it the Auction period - an hour before opening - not sure how long afterwards.

LSE don't make it so obvious or think we all know?

IG shows ASX is in auction - and for some reason TOU usually extends beyond opening time.
Even when there are hardly any trades? Unless it is the 20 minute delay that TOU suffers (with other small shares).

Cheers Zippy.

DTE, there is something going on with that 400,000 - it is back again around the 5.2p mark.

I am coming around to your view that a punter or broker or both, is getting confused on ASX, LSE, ISA a/c, nominee a/c, ordinary shares and options!

I reckon it is conceivable that someone is trying to take his options at 5.2c or 5.2p instead of the agreed 8c and 4.4p and getting confused?

My brokers are handling the options differently - I think confusion abounds!

One of mine has my LSE options in my ISA and my nominee accounts.
ZIG, as you know, insist they cannot be held in my ISA , forcing me to keep the nominee account open purely as a container fo my options! And that puts me in danger of custodial fees , and is why I keep my frequent trader status which eliminates the custodial fees.

And no, I don't have 400,000 options in any of my entitlements :O)

Recedi must be a chinese whisper for Lesedi?
I thought it was Synergen's research site in Australian :O)

https://sydneynewstoday.com/stock-price-of-tlou-energy-asx-tou-soars-64-due-to-renewal-of-green-hydrogen/420071/

Tonight is another day , 6.4c roughly for most of the first hour, but a million bought at that bargain price (3.5p equiv) is nice on the eye!

If they are Cross Trades that does not go through the stock exchange, so I guess their opening hours become immaterial for an in-house transfer between one or more client's and their accounts.
A cross trade also occurs legitimately when a broker executes matched buy and a sell orders for the same security across different client accounts and reports them on an exchange. For example, if one client wants to sell and another wants to buy, the broker could match those two orders without sending the orders to the stock exchange to be filled but filling them as a cross trade and then reporting the transactions after the fact but in a timely manner and time-stamped with the time and price of the cross. These types of cross trades must also be executed at a price that corresponds to the prevailing market price at the time. "

NB "the broker could match those two orders without sending the orders to the stock exchange to be filled but filling them as a cross trade
**** and then reporting the transactions after the fact ***
in a timely manner and time-stamped with the time and price of the cross. "

Uncrossing trades are more familiar , external deals betweens brokers with the exchange fully au fait with goings on.

"What is an uncrossing trade?
An uncrossing trade is where buyers on the bid and sellers on the ask match together in a single trade at the end of an auction period. The uncrossing trade shows up with the trade code “UT” on the London Stock Exchange."

I hope it was not a miffed chancer who thought 5.2p might be surpassed (maybe saw the 9c+ trades on ASX) and kicked up a fuss to get it reversed!
Whoever accepted 5.2p could have caught a cold but did OK out of it in reality.
IMHO, the trade should stand! But if may have been a clerical error of course!

Bid and ISA might explain it, too, I suppose?
09-Nov-21 07:51:16 3.002416 200,000 Buy* 2.80 3.10 6,005 O
09-Nov-21 07:51:16 3.002961 -200,000 Buy* 2.80 3.10 -6,006 O

and today's might have been reported as individual trades at different times?

No wonder the FSA try to outlaw Cross Trades .....

11-Nov-21 07:01:19 5.209636 400,000 Buy* 3.00 3.10 20.84k O
11-Nov-21 13:18:29 3.03 50,000 Sell* 3.00 3.10 1,515 O
11-Nov-21 07:01:19 5.210181 -400,000 Buy* 3.00 3.20 -20.84k O

There are some weird pairings of buys/sells DTE!

Smallfry already asked about this earlier, and it looked to me like a Cross Trade before the contra was reported for almost the same price!

From 10:26 my response was

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/crosstrade.asp

The relevant para is ....
"However, cross trades are permitted in select situations, such as when both the buyer and the seller are clients of the same asset manager and the price of the cross trade is considered to be competitive at the time of the trade. "

BUT NOW
I wonder if the trade fell foul of this .....
"The asset manager must be able to prove to the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) that the trade was beneficial to both parties. "

Smallfry - did you just rub my bottle?
The genie obliges with the stupidest comment ever!

"There is someone in this world who is more stupid that moagi!"

Hands up! How stupid was that ?

Enough, this board has been good this week and is being rewarded for it at last.
Lord knows what will go down on ASX tonight - end of the week!

I am chuffed that news broke while you lot were sleeping - I usually wake up too late to have acted! In truth I missed the high prices before I looked at my account and saw the rise!

I looked at my main account (not IG) todays and found a handy dividend of about £300 was paid last month! Bought about 10k TLOU on LSE at 3.14p with it. Happy day!

Don't take the bait, smallfry!
Moagi talks in riddles - it was the stupidest post on here if you do not KNOW that it was directed at you! He does it all the time - blasphemes away at how daft something is with no rhyme or reason to back up the abuse!

"That shows how little you know" is a prime example - you can direct it at an statement from any person - Pep on football management - Novak on tennis - Einstein on relativity - anybody!!!! anything! Any fool can say it, most fools are too sensible however!

It implies Moagi knows more than the subject does without the slightest evidence that he could find his nose on his own face after Moagi speaks about David's boxing prowess and he breaks it in 3 places - upright , falling , flat out!

He picked a longish thread with many contributors and he could be targetting any of them - it does not matter because I would be astounded if anybody on here thinks he has anything to say that is worth listening to. He has killed ADVFN , don't let him cripple this board - filter the fool!

Moagi looks to have been fact finding (though I haven't looked at his posts) since midnight.
To be 100% right - it is best to let everything unwind and then say how much cotton is on the bobbin! He does not have a PhD in Vagarious Hindsight by luck!

He did not have a clue where the LSE price was headed (like the rest of us mortals) so only when the price settles at yesterday's levels does he crawl out of the woodwork to spit out some damp sawdust.

The last 24 hours has proved to me that TLOU shareholders are prepared for a quantum leap in the shareprice. FOMO produced over 9c and 5.2p on the two main markets at the peak.

DTE , history tells us TG will do as you say and sell up , but history is against him having enough strength , or will, to endure another long term start up! I am hoping he will want to see his potential Solar, Hydrogen , Carbon and CBM power empire grow to fruition , while he enjoys the fruits of his labours! TLOU might replace Eskom as the region's big cheese , and Botswana might become a large exporter of energy to South Africa , reversing history, which is where I came in!

Alexander Trent Arnold is a particula exponent of it!
He often turns a dead ball into a crackerjack.

Damo, puts a whole new meaning to "metabolism" :O)

At 7am a competitive price somewhere was thought to be 5.2p , and both parties were happy with it. I wonder if the buyer has exercised his options at 4.4p as well?

I don't think I'd welcome poles and wires with no electricity.
The risk of shock keeps vandals and thieves away to some degree.
If people can safely wire themselves up over many months there might be very little power arriving at Serowe :O)

And if kids use the poles as playthings , a live wire looks identical to an unused wire, and could cost lives!

Smallfry - there is another trade showing that fits your query
11-Nov-21 07:01:19 5.210181 400,000 Buy* 3.00 3.20 20.84k

I suspect it is a Cross trade which does not go through an exchange.
You can read all about them here ... https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/crosstrade.asp

The relevant para is ....
"However, cross trades are permitted in select situations, such as when both the buyer and the seller are clients of the same asset manager and the price of the cross trade is considered to be competitive at the time of the trade. "

Last week
"Botswana might, one day, have a crypto called Tlou share certificates? Worth their weight in Hydrogen (like today)."

MM have you noticed that those who belied our enthusiasm from day 1 on Hydrogen/Carbon production seem to disappeared? Our share certificates are now worth their weight in white feathers , and growing.

Whizzer, I looked up v8 on twitter, and somehow got signed up to twitter!
Years ago, MM advised me to join twitter, and it does seem much better than the awful facebook or whatever it is called now. I never found your V8 tweet though.

US? I wouldn't rule out another special placing for some rich supporters (the special ones?) who'd be thrilled to get some more in the current climat.

Our entry into Syn Met (up to USD3m) , echoing my thoughts about investing in them , really shows the sort of person TG is! Us is shareholders, partners in operational fields, funding partners and TLOU themselves - I think we are all part of a family - with TG as a very friendly Godfather.

Same old story , profit takers abound but when I came to bed I'd have been happy with a 17.74% rise I guess. I could have sold a few (or a lot) in the mid 8c's but didn't! Will LSE follow the pattern and be a few tenths of a penny below 4.4p?, our option price?