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Clayson out! http://www.investegate.co.uk/ecr-minerals-plc--ecr-/bus/holding-s--in-company/20161212091400Z0286/

I love this comment....More BUYS thn SELLS? But MM mark the price down? Ha ha ha. You know for an absolute fact that more of todays trades are sells than buys do you? Could you please explain how you know that?

Exactly....of no interest. Hence the share price.

Swift, who asked you for an opinion, I`m not your ally. You still haven`t answered a previous question of mine to you about what the difference is between Scots wanting sovereignty from the UK...and Brexiteers wanting sovereignty from the EU. Why is it good for you but not for them?

NOSE, well sorry but I was mean/sarcastic on purpose, I can feel the hair go up on the back of my neck whenever I read blatant non factual ramping, because there might be some inexperienced new investors reading and being misguided into spending money they can`t afford to lose. Also to put the author right, in case he/she actually believes in his/her own nonsense. Fair play for owning up though, so no malice to you personally.

Ha ha ha, if I had a pound for every time I`d read someone claiming they knew whether `all the buys were sells` or `all the sells were buys` I`d be back at break even! I love the bit about `the majority` of them were buys, so some were and some weren`t at the same price then? Which ones? YOU DON`T KNOW UNLESS THEY WERE YOURS!! Why do you think these data feed platforms print a disclaimer saying they can`t guarantee that the trades are as shown??? And, don`t forget, this is AIM, so more smoke and mirrors than Penn and Teller. I don`t know why people bother themselves with it, if you can prove it then do so...otherwise just continue to make yourself look uneducated, ignorant and stupid.

I`m down around 300%!! Wow thats a first for me, you`re down 3x what you invested, how did that work?

How delightful to know that the rigged criminal thieving c****s are filling their boots again. Someone should be put behind bars!

...just tried a dummy buy of 40k, and was offered 13.95p. Predict a further drop.

..whats going on at the moment, just tried a dummy sell of 40k shares, and it.... `couldn`t find a quote for my trade size`!! Can`t be that desperate for stock. AIM shenanigans again in my view, its like a game of poker, and who`s going to blink first!

Yeah this one had me scratching my head too, it does seem a bit counter logical. I`m going to attempt a bit of `devil`s avocado` for a second even though I am long term long OBT, so not looking for a fight, just a discussion. My only Sherlock Holmes theory that I could find is that it was a negotiated sell from the `not yet discussed` Mr Kenji Miyamoto. On 9/8/16 he added 2m shares to his 6m holding taking him over the 3% threshold. Holding 8m @ 3.04%. http://www.investegate.co.uk/obtala-limited--obt-/rns/holding-s--in-company/201608111110389386G/ At the time macaumike posted a message asking who he was, and never got a reply. The only person I could find who has any kind of connection to business/finance/investment, is the Chairman of Yasuda Logistics Corp. http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=8481929&privcapId=5577079 The sp at that time was 9p, so 2m shares at 9p comes in at ~£180,000+costs...so with todays `sell` proceeds being £280,000-costs, that would be a cool thick end of £100k profit in c10 weeks! I mean who wouldn`t! Now before anybody claims it was definately a buy, unless you have proof, consider this....the day that the 2m purchase supposedly went through on 9/8/16 it showed a total daily volume of 32.83k, and the day before that showed 124.8k! So where`s the 2m buy? It`s like magic smoke and mirrors AIM market slight of hand. So could today`s trade just be more confusing `now you see it now you don`t` AIM dealings for those `in the know`? Now I`m not claiming this did happen, I`m just suggesting that it would fit in with the anomaly of the very large trade and the fall in price, normally a `buy` of this size would have been very likely to move the sp up at least .25p, if not more, definately not a fall. If I was Mr Miyamoto (if it was him) I would consider it foolish not to take some profit too, since the sp has just started drifting slightly lower now that the good news feelgood factor is fading. I suppose the only way we will know for sure is if another holdings RNS is released.

Well well, i post asking if you have any thoughts on AOR`s current poor condition and you fire off four posts in succession, two about other entity`s, one agreeing with me that the sp has further to fall (fairplay) and one mentioning this new rat replacing the old rat that saw the only way out was to jump off the sinking ship! If all was rosy he certainly wouldn`t have done that if he could see any improvements in the near to mid term future. So the new one, Mr Mckenna, I take it he must be a canny Scot with an eye for an opportunity to make a few quid!! Current directorships held by Mr McKenna and directorships held by him in the last five years are as follows:....none! And you said.....One hardly feels 22p to buy is freefall . Ahem, well it does in my book, and in general market terms it does too. Just after the recent results the sp was briefly pushed up to close @ 31p, then low and behold the next day there`s massive (in AOR terms) volume of 233k and the sp closes at 28, so obviously a large sell @ mate rates. Its now @ 21.25p, thats a 30%ish fall since the results were announced......can you see the clues yet. That % fall is the equivalent of todays gold price of $1267/oz crashing to 2008 levels of $800/oz or there abouts...... by this Xmas!!!! That would turn the financial world upside down and inside out with front page headlines that gold is in a dramatic freefall. It would need interest rates to rocket around the world and global GDP figures bouncing 10 x what they are for that to happen.....almost as if the financial world had won the lottery!!!! But you `hardly feel` that its worth mentioning almost!! Holy moly, I do hope you get well soon, and start to wake up to how long your money is going to be stagnant for invested here. LOOK AT THE CLUES...CEO and co-founder jumps, sp fallen 30% since results and still falling, no turnaround expected anytime soon as stated in the results RNS....and you`re BUYING!!! Unfortunately you`re investing in hope that one day you will be fortunate. And in the meantime all the other ships sail on by. Good luck with that then.

bbr391.....Still waiting for your latest observation on your beloved Bill & Eddie becoming just Bill...!! Oh, and the sp freefall? Any thoughts?

Don`t you just love the grey area of the mechanisms of the stock market, and particularly AIM. They issue a holdings RNS that says that the date of the transaction and the date when the threshold is crossed or reached was 3/10/16. But there were only 971k shares traded yesterday, and the situation prior to the triggering transaction was 3.2m (ish) lower than the resulting situation after!!! So why write it like that, why don`t they just state that the 9% threshold was crossed and this (number) is now the new holding amount?? Anybody?

Some were definately sells...because they were mine, and there were plenty around the same time at the same price. I think the updates were very promising but could be summed up in two words...`future profits`! So you know how fickle traders are, and like me I`m hoping to get back in lower, though I kept the majority of my holding...just in case.

Another positive move by Mr Pelham and the board in their `new Obtala` journey...I love this company! Still have 90 days to get this deal away and still have to pay the $225,000 in instalments till June next year, but its a great move and shows how determined the company is for success. So sp is now back up to the recent 13.13p resistance and I feel that breaking very soon in my bones...high volume returning today and a lot of trades showing as sells that I suspect are buys....just got quoted a buy @ 12.93p when the mid price is supposedly 13.13p!!! Shananigan watch all stations! Wow! As I write two buys of 13.2p and 13.4p just gone through so my next comment which was going to be that nobody has bought above resistance has been blown away.....mid 13.38p as I write! Happy freakin days!

Jasonsdad, Not sure where you got the 5.5p from, but now that the indecision surrounding the US interest rate is out of the way there was always potential for a rise today... and 4.5p aint a bad start. 122p tested several times today so lets see if it breaks tomorrow.

No I didn`t forget that, it was a sell!! How else do you explain that days open being 31p and the close being 28p???? I did try to engage you at the time for your thoughts but you chose to change the subject!! And who the hell is R Thomas, is he a huge name in financial investment circles??? or just another hopeful deluded mug? This company has a market cap of £1.5m!!! Not even big enough to be called a tiddler!! A lot of mid cap companies shares change hands `daily` with a value higher than that! Wake up!!

Ha ha ha ha....I thought you wouldn`t be able to resist posting that one, so this guy bought £2500 worth of stock nearly two weeks ago but has only just notified today...Wow, that should erm, well ...erm, well should be sort of good ish, maybe there`s some good times ahead. £10,000 worth of shares traded in total in the last 15 trading days, including sells....now thats what you call an illiquid stock!

Indeed, charts don`t reflect sales, or any other specific element of a companies performance in live terms, margin, revenue, profits etc are only known for sure when a company announces results. What charts do is reflect the value attached to a stock by all the participants in that stock, with all of the known information along with other speculative theories on general market and sector conditions affecting what is perceived to be fair value, or overvalued or undervalued...hence the peaks and troughs within a prevailing trend, up or down or sideways. Traders (buyers and short sellers) take advantage of these swings within the trend to draw trendlines or observe support and resistance levels or zones, and many other indicators including oscillating indicators like stochastics, or trending indicators like MACD for trading opportunities to `load probability` in their favour. Also taking into consideration things like reading across to other company announcements in same sectors, or interest rate decisions or other external influences etc to help the decision making process short term. Sales or PE and PEG ratios, how much debt and how capable they are at servicing that debt are for the fundamental analysts and long term investors, who can only make their detailed assessments once they have new information..... a trading update, interim or full results, contract wins or other price sensitive declarations. Technical analysts assess chart movements on anywhere between 1 minute and 5 year charts or longer, depending on their particular startegy and targets, and all the principles are exactly the same for every timeframe 1 min, 30 mins, 4 hr, 1 day, 1 week etc. So charts don`t reflect sales...they are far more informative than that because they reflect the psychology and the fear and greed of the participants in that particular markets current value... like a snapshot of optimism or pessimism in whichever timeframe you care to choose.