RE: Do you pay CGT or not11 Mar 2026 13:06
P412ms.
I love the "Accomplished Trader" statement. That made me laugh.
I have made so many huge mistakes in my years of owning shares, it's an understatement..... but, thank you for the attempted compliment.
ok... To your question. Ironically, I have actually recently been working on this exact same scenario...
So, let's say you take £50,270 a year from your SIPP, plus the 25% Allowance, so you then £67,026 allowance.
You then pay £7,540 in tax.
But, you have your SAGA shares, which are £15,000 up.... To which you would take the £3,000 tax free, and then pay the CGT on the £12,000, which would be £2,160 tax.
So, in essence, let's pretend you invested £52,026 into SAGA, and therefore now you have £67,026 in essence in your Trading account...
That means you will take out £67,026 from your trading account, and pay a total of £2,160
This is versus taking the £67,026 out of your SIPP using 25% of your tax free allowance, and then also paying £7,540 in tax...
When you put the two aspects of taking money out next to each other, the reality is that taking the money from your Trading Account is actually better... and the reason is..... and this is something that I never managed to consider previously, is that you get your initial investment back as well.
Which, within your SIPP, you don't consider that, you just take your allowance.
This is what I would suggest you do.....
Lay out your plans for year 6/4/26 to 5/4/27.... How much money are you planning to take out, and how much from Wifey's accounts...
Put the numbers together, and work out what tax you would pay if you took the minimum CGT £3,000 allowance.... and the rest of your money via your normal means...
Then, re-work it taking out all your Trading Account monies, and reducing your amounts from your SIPPs accordingly.
So, in the end, the two scenario's equal the same "cash take out" amounts, and then compare how much tax you will pay on the two scenarios.
That will give you the answers to your particular financial scenario. For me, it was easy...
I've run out of Cash. We spend £100k plus a year, and I take the max out of my SIPP ie 67,026, plus £16,760 from Wifey, i.e. £84k.... but I want to also put money into my ISA's, so taking my trading account in the next tax year is the most tax efficient way of getting the money, unless I take the money out of my ISAs, which I don't want to do..
Although..... many many financial advisors would always say to take the minimum from your Trading account to the CGT limits, take from your ISA, and then your SIPP, but everything has changed. Pensions are now part of Inheritance, so the old logical rules have changed.
Obviously this isn't financial advise, it's just my observations, and you should sit down with pen and paper (and I actually mean pen and paper as well) and work it out.