RE: Update21 Jul 2024 17:06
pharmhall, i'm not sure why you are talking about ebit vs ebitda, as i was talking about net profit (free cash flow) vs ebitda.
and i'm not sure why you disagree with my statement that trx is not net profitable. this is clearly seen in the annual reports, as well as forecasts for 2024.
look at any metric of actual cash generation: eps, net cash (debt). these were negative for 2023, and are forecast to be negative during 2024. net debt is rising, and is forecast to rise in 2024 and even 2025. can you explain to me how can trx have negative eps if it is net profitable? why is debt rising, and forecast to rise further, if it is generating positive free cash flow?
if you think ebitda is a real measure of cash generation, you should probably take another look at what ebitda really is. it seems you are confusing the ability of a company to generate profit purely from the cost of sales (ebitda) vs the ability of a company to actually generate cash from its entire operation.
here are some quotes to assist you:
"buffett believes that cash is the lifeblood of any business and that a company’s ability to generate and manage cash is a critical determinant of its value. fcf, unlike ebitda, directly focuses on the actual cash generated by a company’s operations. it considers not only operating profitability, but also capital expenditures and changes in working capital, which are essential for understanding a company’s cash-generating ability."
taken from: https://focusbankers.com/whats-the-best-measurement-ebitda-or-free-cash-flow/
or scroll down the page in this link to have a look at this handy summary:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/brianferoldi_ebitda-vs-fcf-whats-the-difference-ebtida-activity-7129081903650893826-0rgb
which states that "ebitda does not provide an accurate insights into a company's ability to generate cash"
or charlie munger: "every time you see ebitda, you should substitute "bull**** earnings".