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Every seat that is provided will be filled. But the number of seats provided will be lower than could be as long as obstacles like PCR testing is insisted on, even for the green corridors.

If the tests weren't required, for some months BA and the rest could put every available in the sky and be able to fly them full with no need to knock down any rows in offers. Indeed I wouldn't be that surprised to see Norwegian re-open some trans flights. I am not aware that they have given up their slots yet or too whom!

As night follows day, Gordon Brown trying to score headline points over Blair. He's got himself back on the agenda signing some doc or other. How long before Blair slimes his way into the headlines in response.

Those two still at it hammer and tongs trying to score one more point over the other. Former PMs are supposed to keep it under the hat. Not these two. Hilarious. Did anybody here voted for Blair? In fact do you know anybody who actually voted Blair? Nobody finds it odd that nobody seems to know someone who is supposed to vote for Blair, especially in third one????

taking the market ahead of the UK

I meant taking the market ahead of the EU.

I know all of you got it, but for the benefit of fuznazi i'm spelling it out

The article, however, fails to address the biggest bloc to a return to big traveller numbers. The requirement for paying for a test. If every single pre-covid route was to be opened tomorrow, there would be muted demand until the PCR was removed. As it is, the airlines will start putting aircraft up but in very limited numbers because they will have done their marketing calls and they will be getting the same response. Yes, all the seats will be filled but that will be because there will be low numbers of flights until the PCR is removed.

It also is confirmed in that article that the EU is forcing the schedule. It is doubtful now that the UK is going to be allowed to start any meaningful Atlantic service taking the market form the EU. I would expect the EU would suddenly unearth some dodgy clause in the trade agreement anyway, or start lobbying the WTO to stop UK carriers taking the market ahead of the UK. Looks like proper opening up is going to be held back to end June.

So instead day trade this mother to hell and back!

flying blind, investing.com not updating daya since just before close.

what's that in real money?

Forget what the EU reps at the G7 say, or to a large extent what the UK goon says. Focus on anything and everything from the USA delegates. They are more likely to give an indication without realising whether UK will go independent and open routes to USA or toe the EU line and hold everything until June end. What might be interesting will be a reference to not wanting to get involved - i.e. careful not to take sides. They may say something like, happy to consider all parties individually or as a group wherever they are.

Keep 'em peeled - so far my master plan to rule the world from the wicker chair is working out, tick tock. Cashed in Easy Jet with a very decent mark up and not very far from the intraday high. Now just waiting for a panic dip in IAG, I already have a decent holding so it is all about ploughing all the dry powder and loose change into IAG at the right moment. Could be tomorrow, the day after or three weeks time! Who knows.

" to buy all in IAG ready for the spike. "

..... fugnazi should have gone to specsavers..........

The issue shpunken is the additional cost of PCR. I know many invested in IAG concentrate on the business class as the customer base but if the economy seats are not filled it is just as bad for IAG as it is for Easy J and the other low cost. Also remember IAG has purchased a low cost carrier and had plans to extend another low cost brand, LEVEL. When the tests cost more than the ticket, it is an automatic no for many travellers. Even bringing down the costs to the 30-40 level will still be just to big a cost relative to the overall travel. Many will simply wait until end June onwards and that will be a valuable 6 weeks much need cash flow gone.

As for the US corridor, I don't think it is going to happen. The EU have set out their road map to reopen holiday free travel towards the end of June, the UK will be expected to follow that timetable and the europhiles within the UK will keep working to stop or restrict as far as possible any opening up of UK travel to maintain alignment.

Those I think are the two things that are influencing the sp with the iis at the moment. If there is a sign of Downing St breaking free of the EU timetable, then that could add 10% on the sp. If the PCR is removed as a requirement for green light countries, then add another 25%+++++

The critical news here is whether the PCR stays or goes. If you are holding when the news breaks that the PCR is finished then you are quids in.

Well I've taken profits with Easy Jet, very good profits. Now I wait for the correct moment to buy all in IAG ready for the spike. I might miss it, I might not. But at least I am making money. And I could hardly be jealous of a day dreaming random guessing red nosed clown investor.

errr, you are about 75% deficient in your 'gap up' and since the sp has a certain probability to move up at some point over the next few months given the travel situation and know future events, that was hardly a 'prediction'. Another clown and his red nose!

Key G7 meeting is today. EU is a guest to the foreign minister talks. Let's just hope they are completely out gunned by the G7 members and other guests and put in their place. If EU wants to delay return to travel to the EU to mid-summer then it may do so. But the EU should not interfere with other travel routes such as US UK.

EU calling the shots on when UK travel can open up properly. We are still a very long way from being independent.

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Of course there are more expensive ones around but can you see where I am coming from, fly out in May come back July and very cheaply.

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Holiday rental by the month is not as uncommon as many think ans is very affordable. There are loads of companies doing it. Low rental turnover and no vacated days reduces means a more secure income for the property holder.

"and normally relocate over summer anyway"

There are ex-pat communities all over the Med, not just Spain, I was hardly incorrect and those with second homes will surely have made the appropriate arrangements to continue visiting in that locality!!!!!! And there are plenty of people who have long extended visits renting properties for a couple of months. The point is there will be and increase in the one-way travel until the green list is extended.

Glennhoss, it is true that attempting to keep alignment with EU rather acting as a true independent nation then there would be a backlash - if of course it was reported! Post the referendum, many people have been very surprised at how far the absorption of the UK into the EU bloc had gone without having any real knowledge of what was going on. The commission and it's foot soldiers throughout the EU bloc have gone down the softly-softly route rather than the more brash communist route. So the member states were allowed to keep national identities, flags, anthems and so on to a point. The UKs cultural imperial weights and measures was too much and there were advanced plans to change us to km on the roads too.
For the future, a lot of small almost imperceivable policies and regulations can be applied through the network of Europhiles such that the population barely notices. They will all look reasonable and appear to have nothing to do with EU politics, but nevertheless those micro policies will sum up to follow whatever the commission is dictating on the continent. A good example on this is the opening up of travel. Apparently the reluctance to open up is to do with importing variants. If that were the case then we would not open up until a vaccine existed covering all possible future variants since there will be variants forever. It is a misdirection qualification for those following EU instructions to hold back opening up travel. You will see as our free trade agreements around the world seem to have all sorts of odd issues arising, like the over application of administration with the flow of goods to NI and back. Be under no illusions, the battle may have been lost for the EU but the war will NEVER be over. The more they lose control over the UK the more angry and aggressive they will become, and we have seen such an example already back in January. There will be a lot more of it as they believed the stat of the UK was fully subservient to the EU and the last stage was to introduce the Euro here. But there has been a spanner thrown in the works and the commission is busy removing the spanner.

Shpunken, I suspect there will be an increase in one-way travel to amber countries, esp where many Brits have their second home and normally relocate over summer anyway. That will mean the potential for a lot of empty return aircraft until the proper opening up with full green lists and removal of PCR is done.

Some impressive volumes on the Spanish exchange, cor!