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"however the reality is that they are too strong to be pushed out of ukr. they also need to be allowed to save face.
they have learnt a painful lesson"

The Russian army being strong has been exposed as a complete myth. All they have is Napoleonic siege tactics that can wiped out with modern western kit.

There is zero, nil, no obligation at all to save face for child murders. That is an absolute NO! War crimes, trial and hanging ONLY.

Russia is showing no sign of learning any lessons. They are not rationale actors. Only a bullet in the head will be the lesson.

Absolute crap you had any such correspondence. You are a class A1 confidence trickster.

Regress to your little fantasy land. The way so many round on me and make such a vocal dismissal tells me I have hit the nail squarely on the head. This war is a complete fiasco for Russia. I get it many of you are very embarrassed at what Russia has done, and continues to do. And some of you still hold on to the hope Russia will complete the land grab restoring some sort of honour in the most macabre fashion. And I also get it that treats of nuking anybody anywhere by Russia is basically a joke and you are laughed at for doing it. We can see from how sophisticated the Russian clown circus what a nul threat Russian nukes are.

Not only has Russia failed on a monumental scale, all opportunities to rescue some face save is long gone. If the generals do not call the coup and withdraw entirely from Ukraine, there is only one other end game and it is war with nato.

https://nypost.com/2022/06/27/russian-missiles-strike-crowned-ukrainian-mall/

Straightforward basic terrorist attack.

We should declare war on Russia immediately and commence shock and awe on Moscow with a 72 hour non stop bombardment.

After, let's see how quick Russia is to bomb another shopping center.

You can try all you like, you can pretend all you ant. The days of fooling everybody into believing Russia was untouchable are long gone. And your recent ar has exposed your military to be a circus of clowns. Definitely there will be some random damage to the west, but the choice is decades more of war as Russia continues with its empire building, or cut them out now. Just like the Polish false flag talk, all that does is rove it will just never end.

Start the war, the west can absorb a few nukes if Russia is stupid enough to go that way. There have been many wars since Hiroshima with nuclear powers engaged and every time the weapons have been locked up. If Russia is so stupid as to use nukes, then so be it and total annihilation of Russia and its people will follow. The rest of the world will rebuild and over time reconstruct the technology it has now. But there will be no Russia.

We aren't afraid of you, you have nothing over us. Get a grip on reality! You wanna go nuke, do it!

bankrupt copying and pasting the false flag scenario being put out by the kremlin to engage Belarus against Poland. Bring it on, any excuse to kick this all out war off and annihilate Russia. Russia is a pain in the ass and needs to be completely deleted now.

And out come the nukes!

Putin may have raised eyebrows when he first threatened nukes at the start and that may have caught the west of guard. But continuing to claim war with Russia automatically implies a nuclear conflict does not hold any sway anymore. If it is going nuclear, Russia will not take part in the future of the human race. There will still be a USA, a UK and an EU. And judging from the Russian tactic of bomb everything to dust, there will most likely be a lot less damage from Russian nukes than conventional, if any of the Russian nukes actually work of course.

Bring it on!

Absolute delusion. You actually think G7, the west, nato or anybody is coercing Zelinskie in any way shape or form. You still have absolute delusions the Putin's war will be concluded with objectives met and Ukraine will be obliged what you expected from the start and just roll over and throw flowers at the feet of Russian soldiers as they enter Kyiv in dress uniforms?

You people are absolutely off your ferkin faces still thinking this is all somehow Ukraines fault and it is down to Ukraine to fix it all.

The position of the west is absolute. Russia must nowin, at all. Russia must not gain any territory. It is the most fundamental absolutism and stated publicly by all the west leaders all over the planet. The precise path to ensuring that is going to zig zag to try and avoid outright war with Russia. But anybody reading between the lines can see clearly, the sanction route and Ukraine resistance is simply to by time ready for the all out war with a hope something will snap on the Russian side and the all out war be avoided.

Be under no doubt, Russia crossed the red line with Ukraine and if Russia does not capitulate against Ukraine and sanctions, Russia will ultimately be invaded and placed under foreign administration as the only solution to stop the persistent war mongering. China knows it too which is why it is not giving military assistance to Russia despite Russian appeals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_sanctions_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

If you want the full picture, go here. The first thing you will note is the sanctions started back in 2014 and the 2022 sanctions were the fourth round. Russia has been badly impacted from the start and the latest rounds have only made matters worse. Russia has now been pushed into default. Pretending sanctions are not having an impact is just plain crazy. Russia is holding up the pretense by deflecting to some extent visible impacts by raising pensions and protecting high street food inflation. But the consequences of the sanctions ar filtering through and will be many times worse than the first rounds due to the manufacturing base simply running out o base and raw materials and simple components, lt alone complex components.

Even if the generals call it a day no, it would be weeks before trade sanctions are reversed and many months for supply lines to be restored. If they are ever restored. Whoi going to trut Russia with credit anymore, it will be cash in advance and that cash will be hard currency like dollars and pounds. Even then, many companies will simply not have anything further to do with Russia for years running to decades. It is certainly and permanently of my export list.

I challenge you to convert your pension pot, savings and or salary to either Rouble or Renminbi and transfer it a bank account in either of those two nations. Then see how far it goes! You won't.

"Reliance on the west will not end but will be greatly reduced due to tthe BRICS exchanging their own currencies for goods and creating an internal market."

No it won't.

DEBT

How are these new economies going to service existing debt. Russia has just defaulted. So China is gingto bail out Russia knowing Russia will just default later? And you are expecting sovereign fund to divest dollar based investments and switch to Ruble based??? Are you serious?? If that could have happened, it would have happened before, especially after the credit crunch. Crypto also presented a new base which has been avoided. The dollar may also be the US currency but in financial markets the domestic dollar is treated as separate to the international dollar. And new reserve currency would take decades to establish and switch over to.

And the gold sanction is a proposal isn't it? It is only being discussed and war gamed at the moment isn't it? Why are people posting a sanction not yet formulated let alone imposed has failed already?

Yet more desperately clutching at straws. Some people here are living in such a distorted reality trying to handle the fall of their beloved Russian empire they have become actually psychotic. People are literally having mental breakdowns trying to dismiss the real world and what Russia has done and the consequences to come. I'm beginning to feel some real sorrow for you.

The sanctions were predominantly designed against individuals in an effort to persuade the inner circle to push Putin to change cous or remove him. Putin has become much authoritarian and murderous so those sanctions have not had an immediate effect but if they hadn't been tried there would have been out cry. Slowly the oligarchs are being ground down and intelligence is picking up more and more signals of dissent within the inner circle.

The macro sanctions are designed to cut of funds and components that could be used to fund the war. The component sanctions is having a significant effect of stopping production of modern weapon manufacture. Sanctions to cut off money supply take much longer to filter through and the main one of permanently cutting off all and gas requires structural change which is going ahead and will have a major impact on Russia long after the war has stopped. Meanwhile the non-sanctioned sanctions by private organisations are wiggling their way more and more into the lives and the minds of the individual people.

If you are a Moscowvite and you accept the propaganda, you may ask why did McDonalds leave. Is some of that war crime stuff true? The withdrawal of Western companies and brands will be impacting the conscience of Russians trying to reconcile the propaganda with the behaviour of the private level sanctions.

The later macro sanctions are longer term and designed to have impacts that will increase as the annual economic cycle comes around and then bed in with long term damage.

People posting here that nothing has happened to affect Russia and that instead Russia is preparing and the west suffering are completely delusional to the point they need help!

https://english.nv.ua/nation/u-s-congress-moves-to-recognize-russia-s-actions-as-genocide-in-ukraine-war-50252407.html

A small but rather important bit of news. The steps to take to lead to all out war begin at is level. Eventually the genocide clam will be accepted legally, Russia ordered to stop, and when Russia doesn't the grounds for legally declared war at the UN can be taken. Unless Putin wants to start the war now by bombing a nato country.

The price of gold will drop towards the value of the toxic Russian stamped gold. This sanction is much more serious than some realise. This is bigger than oil, and the price Russia sells its oil has collapsed . Oil price is rapidly falling as the supply and economic adjustment removing Russia from the energy market in Europe is finalised (going into Autumn).

https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/crude-oil

" I'm not gonna sit here thinking I know better than the generals etc, that are literally expert's on war."
The same ones who said it would be over in days and have called it wrong on every turn of the card?

You try to make an argument for west/nato to take part of the blame, however softly you do it. This naked terrorist aggression is 100% on Russia, there is no other responsible party for the way this child murdering violence has been perpetuated. Left unchallenged (again) with no military consequences for Russia, they will be back. Ukraine is history repeating itself and if the Russian generals do not stop it very soon nato should declare war and finish this repeat chain of aggression permanently.

" a conspiracy theory going round at the moment, that basically the US EU and UK, actually wanted Putin to invade Ukraine"

You wish, again trying to cast blame elsewhere and pretend Russia is some sort of innocent bystander.

Putin loves to be filmed in the great hall with the pomp of delusion power around him. More and more I look forward to the day when new cameras pick their way through the bombed out wreckage of the hall commenting about the once grandeur and comparing it to the smouldering shattered shell it became.

We should have gone straight to hostilities with Russia and I still think we are making a major tactical error by not commencing full aerial bombardment of Moscow and other key cities now. And if Putin wants to turn it nuclear, so be it. The west will survive, Russia will be erased from the future of the human race. What Putin AND Russia has done is straightforward state terrorism on a massive scale and they should be made to pay with ten fold equivalent destruction.

I'm getting the latest angle now on the Russian propagandists and what they are hoping will develop. Wit the failure of the clowns circus that is the Russian army in Ukraine they are now wishing that some sort of leverage will be brought on the west and Europe in particular through oil and gas and holding it for ransom against Ukraine capitulation.

Seems some Russians still have this 1st world super power ego belief. As far as oil and gas goes, you've blown it. The only issue for Europe is how to cut off Russia 100% permanently whilst still achieving the mystical and economy destroying zero carbon. The reality of the zero carbon policy effects were already being whispered and all Russia has done is help the coal use argument win ground and speed up new nuclear facilities for self-sufficiency. Russia actually has no leverage on Europe or the west and is also now revealed to have a circus of clowns for an army and a true authoritarian regime - and populations always turn on hose regimes eventually so we know what is coming down the road there too.

And the gold sanction is significant for Russia producers as the bullion is now devalued with Russian hallmarks. It's like trying to sell a washing machine tat needs a 110V supply to countries that only have a 240V supply and mains convertors are illegal. Your available market is restricted and hence value depleted.

The issue affecting poly here is refined gold in Russia hallmarked with a Russian stamp. If an ingot is stamped as Russian, the markets it could potentially be sold directly too are reduced. And the buyer of the ingot has the same problem. The sanction could last for many years so ingot would be significantly devalued. And before somebody says just melt it down and stamp it with a different hallmark, readup about the rules around bullion.

This sanction could potentially devalue gold refined within the Russia demonstrating exactly what I was talking about re toxic Russian assets. Poly's Russian assets have just been devalued with this, maybe a big chunk like 25 or 33%.

Good for you.

[Give that man a medal!]