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That’s interesting, my opinion is rather than missing out on an opportunity to save some money, far more important is it removes the risk of loosing out

Numbers then. How many BB premises can BT offer those speeds to?

Just in the interest of balance.

It’s okay lil Rod, you can trust me when I say these are not retired engineers.

Customer will have to pay the electricity bill for conversion from light to electricity.

That’s obviously a massive problem on top of the conversation from light to WiFi......

I think you should stick to stalking & trolling.

You may as well ask the pope, whether he favours the catholic faith or not.

Not sure this is the place or person to ask about your personal financial options.

Pete. Did you credit me with arguing with everybody ?

There you go again Fleccy

By using context & thinking can easily see I meant to say not powering cabinets is an advantage. The next part of the sentence explains docsis doesn’t need electrical component. .... it’s not difficult, especially when I next detail why the other stuff is not an advantage. Although, I understand some street cabinets are being converted to EV chargers

Fleccy sometimes I wonder whether you deliberately don’t understand the point, or you don’t understand

All you are doing is describing two competing networks, with a ridiculous bias towards only (which doesn’t actually exist yet)

Fibre over coax I agree is technically better, same as Betamax was better than VHS. But VHS was there, easily available & did what consumers needed

Yes a fibre connection could be faster, but the need for that kind of faster doesn’t & probably will never exist. If it did, then the backbone needed to support it would be a challenge. Therefore the capAbility to supply 10/100 or 1000gig in an access layer is bogus for foreseeable future. It’s actually no reason at all.

Powering cabinets is an advantage & with respect to DOCSIS you fail to mention RFOG, which misses out co-ax

The most important part of this equation is business. Yes Access fibre connections could support speeds no one will ever need across a backbone that couldn’t exist but 5 to 10 years time at best

Meanwhile the competing network can offer 1gig+ to 17 million premises today.....

I’m talking home bb because business have different connectivity options up to & including no co-ax

Meanwhile new access networks from BT’s completion are all fibre, not being built at the same rate as BT openreach, but they don’t need to do they?

This is the commercial competition to BT, not your one sided techno babble nonsense or your uninformed technical opinions.

True

Maybe next time a sensible conversation can be had rather than pretend nonsense about BT’s competition

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.techradar.com/uk/amp/news/virgin-media-delivers-2gbps-broadband-speeds

Devil in the detail. I’m not getting too excited. Clubs who do this will be kicked out of domestic league & players banned from World Cup... when you put it like that, it’s bad news for the teams & the best players won’t want to miss out on WC glory..... surely?

Just seen this on news. Premiership are threatening to kick these teams out of premiership & all U.K. competitions, I can’t see any of these teams risking that for anything, never mind an unproven competition

I didn’t know that. Sounds like a big blow to any of the traditional outlets BT sport being one of them. I can only assume sky & BT will just have this service in one of their packages like they do for Netflix now?

I think you’re getting confused about networks again. Those speeds will only ever be backbone, co-ax is only the last leg into the home, apart from where it is now fibre for cable networks.

Networks have a hierarchy for a reason, the backbone has to run at multiples of the access layer, otherwise none of this stuff works. The arguments you make are characteristically bogus. For instance why would you ever need those data rates in the access layer and how could that ever be supported across a backbone (Coax is only ever in the access layer for cable areas) & this is already gigabit capable. Everything else in cable franchises are already fibre & they don’t “rely” on openreach. They recently for the first time used BT ducts/poles or if they need access outside of a cabled area

Ummmmm, let’s start with SKY culture is a light footed, quick thinking, chance taking, impulsive, creative, power house of a disruptor. BT isn’t

Hmm, this news might not be useful for BT sport

For the life of me, a BT / SKY Merger seems ridiculous. I might find myself eating these words, but honestly, to my mind, verging on the impossible. Oil & water, there’s never been a bigger oil & water situation in the history of everything

Trying to second guess the U.K. Telco markets next move?

SKY / COMCAST, I think have little choice, to either closely cooperate or merge or takeover Virgin Media / O2 or Vodafone. I know some think BT, but my honest opinion is BT & SKY are organisations like chalk & cheese, oil and water, but I agree never say never.

Vodafone looks to be in an impossible position now, I think they need close ties with SKY out of desperation now VM & O2 have combined. I always thought Vodafone & VM would merge, because of all the business happening with Liberty in Europe.

I think SKY / COMCAST DOMINANCE & size have options, but VODAFONE U.K. doesn’t anymore

The VM O2 company I think has hurt Vodafone more than any of the U.K. operators.

Thoughts?

C3 of course it’s speculation, that’s the point

I would see either of those a win !!

Who dares put their predictions in writing for BT’s pension Deficit Due to be made public within month or so

I’ll start ball rolling £6.5bln (although have read expectations is £9.5bln

No prizes