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Fleecy - you really have to stop lying to yourself

Boris a Johnson had an 80 seat majority. He purged the Conservative Party of all its decent politicians, only to replace them with leave loons.

Nobody could have blocked Brexit. Brexit failed on its on merits. It costs this country at least £100bln per year ( see Bloomberg & others).

Leave was a pack of lies, designed to sow division weaken the uk and the eu.

Only the local pub bore would comfort himself with that kind of nonsense. Again, Brexit camapign had an 80 seat majority to deliver something that was never true.

Everyone against leave acted to limit what they saw as damage, but with an 80 seat majority none of them could have any influence.

Fleccy - we disagree on most things. I agree with you that BT is a longer hold & my investment puts my money where your mouth is.

When it comes to your voting habits, you seem to be very selective and contradictory in your views. I think it’s called cognitive dissonance

You didn’t seem to get the memo from history telling you to be careful of people offering you simple solutions to complex problems.

There you are setting a huge, massive bias towards long gone financial events, whilst agreeing with a political offer which called the truss mini budget “the best budget ever” & whose policies seeks to further her budget ideas but much bigger…. ?

Not to mention all the other things I’ve already mentioned. As an outsider, it’s literally ridiculous.

But unlike Lee, please don’t ask me if I think it’s okay.

Fleccy - daily mail is equally silly to cite as an honest broker for Labour policy.

& here you are bemoaning how much financial harm has been done to you by Labour, whilst openly bragging on this board about how much money you have invested?

There is something very wrong about this, but I’m not surprised.

Fleccy - Lee just asked “if it was okay “ & he didn’t like the answer he asked for.

No I don’t think “labour is good”. But I believe the Labour Party is the only via option with any chance of offering the country decency again. Time will tell.

Other options are offering foaming at the mouth, rabid stupidity. Indications of this but not a full list are. They want to mistreat the most vulnerable people on the planet. You can control immigration &/ or illegal immigration in a decent fair way, or you can choose cruelty. They choose to be cruel, whilst actually creating the problem with poor policy & cuts. It’s obvious these morons have chosen not to fix the problem, because it suits their politics.

In the middle of world ending crisis, they’re more interested in which toilet someone uses, what they do in their bedrooms or something to do with wars on “woke”….. sound silly right.

Meanwhile, crashing the economy & breaking almost every service a civilised country needs to run. Food bank use times a million, nhs, law courts, trade, (.”pretend trade deals with us states, New Zealand and any other fantasy world “) all ruined. PPE corruption, lying to the queen, Russian collusion, Russian funding, parties with known Russian agents….. I could go on

So, in the face of that, yes, I think Labour is an option.

BTW -

Brown isn’t in the Labour Government

The telegraph view of the world isn’t in any way trusted when talking about Labour, it’s ridiculous to cite the telegraph

I don’t understand enough about the why this happened & honestly I don’t think you do either

Brown and that Labour government did a lot of good in other ways & invested in the uk, education, health etc etc

I’ve see stuff about brown and gold, when I looked into it, trusted economists said he was right to sell off our gold ( just timing was wrong)

So basically, when faced with incompetence, corruption, propaganda & treason. Yep I voted labour & I hope they can return some decency and sense back into Britain.

Lee you seem very confused. Reform are offering exactly the opposite….. there is nothing more un -British than the underbelly of reform.

& like I’ve already said, on top of all the intolerance and rabble rousing , there is adoration for this countries enemies, both past a present. Its leader continues to parrot Russian propaganda. Which makes out a country’s freedom to choose NATO or EU membership as a threat etc etc etc. On the economy, reform offers economics like Truss’s mini budget on steroids. Became the Truss mini budget “was best ever”. It offers division, lies, misinformation on an Orwellian scale, aligns with Trump. Anti nato, anti EU etc. etc. it’s not enough to remove us from these organisations, they conspire to undo and wreck them, which is another Putin agenda.

You use you precious, hard earned vote on this & are proud to do so.

& you think I should value your opinion on any other subject. I’m too polite to tell you what I really think….

Lee. You might be right about that crash. It will create the perfect conditions for the worst of the worst politicians to sow division and hatred to people too stupid to know better.

Putin backed, treasonous apologists who only know how to destroy things.

Don’t talk to me about labour initiated crashes when reform back truss and her mini budget.

Let me guess, you voted leave. So let’s not, for one second think you have anything valuable to add to this, or anybother debate.

If that’s okay with you Lee, a useful idiot, prepared to destroy everything decent about the Uk in order to live in a fantasy work created by malign propaganda.

I mean, yeah crime, that thing which is as old as greed or need, I feel for you, maybe you should go see someone about all that pent up silliness.

We finally find ourselves in 100% agreement

Anyone who voted for Putin apologist & fake patriotism “reform” should be ashamed of themselves.

Phat. Are you a little bit obsessed with Basher?

I do hope it’s a healthy one.

No Phat. You should now be very careful.

That message from stalker NDN was to me. It followed pretty disgraceful and utterly disgusting occurrence where NDN Felt entitled to stalk me and then use my personal information to intimidate me…..

I’m pretty sure, by all measures & all joking aside you can see this would be reprehensible behaviour. Your online courses in BT will tell you if such consequences.

Luckily I’m a strong person of sound mind (a little dangerous to know at times). But he doesn’t know that.

NDN feeling entitled to intimidate me online and feel he could rightly remove my right to anonymity suggests some very serious issues going on….. its not a big jump to wonder what other little foul compulsions, & and taboos he think he can ignore.

The funny thing is, all the stalking, he would

Have realised how close he lives to me. A fact I’ve not forgotten…….

Be careful who you play with on this board. You don’t know who people really are, it’s very likely none of them are your friends & some of them you wouldn’t want to be.

Gary. A bid comes before the scrutiny……..

Government may or may not put stop to a sale, but the bid has already happened.

BT plans I’ve seen show they are only targeting 103 exchange sites by dec 3030 .

Leaving 4500 !!! To be closed during 2030 - 2040

This is much slower than I expected sites to close

Bad news coming ?

Fleccy - I thought my post was very clear.

Velo is focussing on there being no cash to spend, I was pondering the why.

I would say during fibre rollout BT is under significant financial pressure. I’m also pondering this is what attracted so much shorts & possibly outside share interest. But most importantly I’m saying they look a bit distressed (little cash ) out of choice, as a strategy to build fibre without relying purely on dept

Don’t believe me though, look at the share price.

Maybe this is all just structured to build fibre networks from revenue and the fill the gaps in with dept.

Investing all your cash is a legitimate approach.

Velo I think you’re saying they can’t afford it. Maybe it’s more the business is under high stress during the build out deliberately, as a choice to do without

a) external investors

b)!not scare the horses by trying to finance this rollout, up front with dept

I gues this goes back to previous posts about billionaires only investing for short term profit. Sometimes distressed companies attract sharks as well as shorters.

Its also the likely reason so has been low, rather than fantasy money makers or biased broker analysis

Fleccy - I think you have finally managed to catch up with what Velo is trying to say.

Whether it’s right or not I have no idea. Assuming the cash number is correct, I would say he is right

Neither borrowing money to do the day to day & or reducing expenditure to get things done (& the whole point is they are trying to get things done) is not necessarily where you would want BT to be.

When the alternative might be to operate unfettered.

Cutting capex or borrowing money would trigger all kinds of unproductive behaviours, none of which would lay more fibre.

Velo - so what you are saying is. By your calculations debt is high, but worryingly BT doesn’t have enough cash to run its business so BT will need to have further dept to keep the wheels turning?

But everyone else seems to be offended or contesting by this notion.

So I guess, is that cash number right? Because seems very low to me for a business spending lots of it every day.

Is that about it?

Strike123 - you might want to watch pretty woman before you invest your hard earned. It’s always a good idea to have eyes wide open.

Strike123 - do you think billionaires only invest in business they think are doing well?

I’m not saying BT is or isn’t doing well. I just think if you are going to make an argument, you might want to think that through.

Welcome back velo

Drahi ? ( Selling )