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Class action?

Abject - even a professional doesn’t tell you what to do with your money. At the end of the day you have to do that, rightly so in my opinion.

Be careful out the on the wild, west web. You literally have no idea who anyone is. Except for NDN who stalks me and knows who I am and thinks he has a right to not respect my privacy. But that’s a different story I guess.

It’s really not difficult to look up unearned income on the uk government website. They even have calculators you can use or get an individual quote. The best advice is for you to look this up, or to help you look this up if needs be. Any other advice forces you to divulge far too much personal info or accept far too much influence / opinion.

It’s really none of my business or anyone else’s on this “public board”. But if you were to ask, that would be my advice :). With your best interests at heart.

Fleccy - I don’t think it counts if you say “you’re not giving financial advice” & then add lots of messages, all giving financial advice.

It’s the same with unintentional investment advice repeated infinitum.

You could have just asked everyone to look up unearned income & left it at that

Bertram - thanks for your measured kind response.

I have to reply because I think it’s disingenuous to “say you can agree to disagree”

You can’ t disagree with something we both known is true. We know about the chaos and corruption within the Tory party &’we know about the low lifes who have taken seats (30p Lee et’al). We also know about the despicable people in the reform party, racism, division, foreign money & ridiculous agendas.

Voting for these parties isn’t a blind choice or difference of opinion. You vote for these people because you want division, chaos, corruption, an end to the nhs and removal of a kinder society.

I don’t mean to be controversial, but I can’t leave this unsaid. It’s why uk is going down the tubes, where voters get away with sweetening their choices with ideas of differing opinions , alternative facts or even sunlit uplands.

Populism is as old as democracy, anyone who votes for it knows exactly what they are getting & should be honest about it. IMO.

Hey Mandy. There is another thing we disagree on, your politics are bit wayward.

As a lifelong Conservative voter (until 2016) I can readily see there is nothing conservative or decent about the Conservative Party or ukip/reform/Britain first/BMP Party.

Wake up Mandy, decent types like you shouldn’t be voting for despicable people in these pretend political regimes. Your personal wealth & wellbeing won’t benefit from your dark side being tickled by bad people.

larry love your (telling) voting logic. your interest in other peoples personal business and or life choices and or pro noun choices (a la pretend culture war)

seems to superceed the reality of untold corruption and incompetence in the conservative party or an inevitable repeat of the same by opportunist, ******, leave loving, russian sponsored, divisive lunatics to be found in reform.

i find it perplexing why someone born male who identifies as a woman & who someone with empathy (in this case starmer) struggles to find the kindest description to use would be such a deal breaker

i do wonder where madness lays?. fifty years ago politicians with empathy would have struggled to find the kindest words to use publicly for *** men. it’s no different.

please try to think yourself out of right wing bigoted propaganda. if you can.

“Digs” not “digs” & “payback”

Bertram I don’t think that’s fair. I mainly see spiteful attacks on Mandy, whereas I see humour in majority of his posts.

Mandy is making a good point in so many ways, when he has repeated his conviction as many times as Fleccy has repeated his on this board, then I may change my mind.

Low share price, little interest from the business community, competition really trying to get their act together, reducing revenue (apart from pay rises)

Whose posts reflect current reality ? I think Mandy’s do, when you take out some of his flair for a tale or two.

Do you see BT striving to increase revenue other than full fibre? Which Mandy correctly points out is fraught with unknowns.

There is completion, foreign money, technology changes (over a 30 - 50 year oau back). Only yesterday I was talking about dogs needed to get it fitted, this alone makes me wonder if I can with alternative options?

Full fibre is a plan, I can see the potential cost savings, but the long payback period & the potential market changes during that time period, do present risks.

It’s nowhere near the milk and honey in the future, safe bet some would have you believe

& share price reflects this……. Which Mandy eloquently points out. (In between the poetry)

expat - i don’t think that’s right. the energy price guarantee was the response to higher fuel prices resulting from war in ukraine. the energy price cap was around before this happened as a regulated price. the argument about it being too little / too much is a separate discussion. it is however an example of regulated price and not free market, *** abandon capitalism

Well done Fleccy - hopefully someone who knows about things will be able to tell

Me.

I’ve already asked engineers in the street, they said they don’t blow fibre anymore & it’s digs or poles now (might be wrong, that’s why I’m asking)

So thanks very much, I’ll just chalk this down to Something else you don’t really understand but push yourself forward for. You have 11645 other posts just like it.

A question (not for Fleccy I really don’t care )

( although I know he will jump all over this)

(He won’t be able to resist an opportunity to over compensate)

So a fibre connection to my home, I think requires a dig, through my driveway, garden and possibly part of my street.

This work needs doing and then made good? For every home?. Surely these are the real costs for the fibre rollout, up front costs for millions of homes seems huge ? 24 million homes @ £1000 is a further £25bln?

Can this be right?

Hey Mandy, I don’t necessarily share your concerns about CWU members etc, but everything else seems to make sense to me.

A layperson view of this class action seemed to me to be a non starter? I don’t think there was a case to answer. Proceeding through the courts like this proves otherwise, it would have all Been halted, long before, it that was the case. My gut feel is, having gone to court, almost anything could happen, so it’s the definition of “uncertainty” which of course is good news for the boys who think a low price is good news, even if that price represents a risk to their capital investment. BT is a huge company with huge costs, miss steps by BT can reap all kinds of painful consequences very quickly, because a company of this size can’t change quick enough. Size has its advantages, but in a changing, reducing market &!stiff competition can take its toll. I’m

Not saying I think we are there, but I am saying reducing revenue is a problem which needs solving.

I hope a £250m fine isn’t on its way, it’s better than. £1.6bln, will still hurt & I think it might encourage further action down the road?

Fibre build remains positive, it’s obvious other providers will try to undermine this investment by offering a wholesale option, this worries me more than anything in regards to my significant BT investment, which has come about by me chasing a falling share price funnily enough ?

So glad Mandy and me make no sense to Fleccy. That’s rich coming from a poster who doesn’t assess risk, thinks £1.6bln fine is unimportant & who doesn’t have the capacity to understand his own acronyms posts more times than is healthy just repeating the same old. (Mandy covers that very well)

He’s like the guy in a meeting trying to convince everyone he knows……..

Expat have you ever heard of the energy price cap on gas and electricity ? There are other examples

“Make sure I didn’t live near him first” ( only excuse is I’m on a train :))

Goof grief Mandy, it comes to something where you’re making more sense than anyone on here.l!!! You can be as grumpy and real as you like, far as I’m concerned. Your truth is more real than these diminishing share price fanboys. Some of which think a £1.6bln fine is no problem (tells you everything you need to know)

As for some of the life stories and 101 self congratulating, adobe merchants on here, I’d say “it’s none of our business” & what’s the point of making silly claims about personal wealth (or not) on a board where it’s easier to lie than tell truth?

As for the blockers…. I think people who block you have serious character flaws if they cant handle public comments on a public board. I mean, I have a lowest of the low stalker called NDN who think he can intimidate me by misusing my personal details & not respecting my privacy (god knows what other filth he’s into, you might like to take a guess). Still you would have thought he’d make sure I didn’t lice best him first !!!!

Stay true Mandy !!! Share price is low, share is under performing, as is the company, so a good main is far more appropriate than blind faith !!

Unlucky - BT is no Apple ….. is it.

I got rid of sky many years ago. I just have Apple TV boxes around the house. Watch what ever I want, when ever I want to. I thought we would miss sky, but never did.

Is this same article, not behind a paywall?

If it is, cue Comcast over next couple of years. It seems so obvious, after all the dept dust settles and the consolidations completed.

https://biz.crast.net/battle-to-take-on-bt-in-britains-brutal-broadband-war/

Fleccy - I agree it’s the American side of Drahi empire.

I didn’t say it did of course. More to do with Malone circling in general, doing deals, with money / dept to spend. Obviously Malone and Drahi will form / extend their existing relationship.